This set of statistics say it all, to be honest.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 32
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 13
- Yellow cards
- 3
- Red cards
- 1
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It was painful to see him play today. Class player but clearly not in the right frame of mind at the moment.
Hasn't started since Arsenal FA cup game.
Devoid of confidence.
Plays 10-30 minute cameos.
Not a miracle worker.
Cannot raise the performances of our entire team.
Does the context not matter with this guy?
Not like he is playing exceptionally well and the whole team is letting him down or anything.
We should stop. We've been at it, in this thread, for a while. It's about time we shook hands (e-hands?) and got on with our lives... till next week, of course.
whereas Valencia's signature move is to stop dead with the ball and do an impression of a statue, Di Maria's seems to be lamping long diagonal crossed into packed boxes from way too far out.
I think my 10 year old nephew is stronger on the ball than him. I thought Blind was bad but at least he tries to be physical.
Seen a few people say this, without one iota of evidence to back it up.
Legendary like Veron, do you mean?
Pathetic.
Like Veron? Such a baseless statement. The notion that everything would have been great under Ferguson is something the lot of you NEED to break away from, it's pathetic now.
Like pretty much most of the time this season he tried a lot but failed with most of it.
On the one hand I feel it's refreshing to have player in the team who will try the unexpected but on the other hand it's frustrating that he only pulls it off in 1 out of 10 attempts.
On the one hand I feel it's refreshing to have player in the team who will try the unexpected but on the other hand it's frustrating that he only pulls it off in 1 out of 10 attempts.
Shame the keeper saved his shot as that could have been the turning point for him, a bit like Fellaini had. Wasn't too be though. It's weird how he seems so much off the wavelength of the other players.
Except Ferguson managed to get the best out Nani, Young, Valencia - who are all wingers. Isn't di Maria a winger?
As was Bebe, Obertan and Luke Chadwick. The idea that Fergie + winger = guaranteed success is seriously naive.
For the record, we saw the best and worst of Nani under Fergie. By the end of his reign Nani was no less marginalised than Di Maria is now.
So it's pathetic to think that ADM would have thrived under the more attack minded Ferguson?
Veron was a deep lying playmaker that was shoe horned into attacking midfielder position that he wasn't suited to. He was a case of right player but at the wrong time.
The only thing that Veron and ADM have in common is their nationality!
Awful examples, Nani hasnt worked underLVG yet, Young has been better for definite, and you could argue since being a slumping right winger when SAF left, he has improved as a right back.
Not only are you wrong about the original notion, but also all of your examples to back that up...
Fergie managed to get the best out of Valencia and Ashley Young? didnt he also get the worst out of them lot as well?
We know SAF got the best out of all attacking midfielders like Kagawa... I wouldnt have phrased it pathetic, but delusional would have been my terming.
Were Bebe, Obertan and Chadwick man of the match in a CL final? (Yes I brought up the past)
I'm not one of those who argue that he would have brought the best out of di Maria, however, it isn't far fetched to assume that Ferguson, the greatest manager of all time (one of), could have had one of the best players of 13/14 playing at a completely different level to what he is now.
Maybe legendary was a tad over the top. I was merely stating that he'd flourish under a more attack minded coach (like Ferguson) that's all.
The guy was one of the best players in the world last season and is now suddenly shite?
If Fergie can't get the best out of someone, I would argue that nobody can. My beef is with the crazy idea that Di Maria's poor season is something that can only be due to Van Gaal. No reason to assume that's the case. Almost as though people have forgotten his underwhelming campaigns when he was still at Madrid. Two years ago, not one person on here would have wanted us to sign him. And that was when Fergie was still in charge.
Read your post again, you'll find out what's wrong with it. I won't do it for you. You can defend Di Maria and blame everyone bar him for his shitty performances, however, the HARD evidence before our very eyes remains that he has been shit for a long time now. Go have a look at Chelsea, Arsenal and City and see what their marquee players [you know them] do, they make the team look better than it actually is, why can't Di Maria do that? The worst is you're lauding him for simple thing such as finding a man with a corner kick, seriously? All I see is a player who's hitting one poor cross after the other. We would have killed Nani for serving up this level of shitness.
Wouldn't be the first player to be a one season wonder and, let's be honest, last season was a bit of a contrast to his overall career so far.
I'm still hopeful it's teething problems but blaming the manager is being far too lenient on the player himself.
Agreed.
LVG's micro management of the players every move on the pitch has hindered not only Di Maria but most of our team this season.
Do we honestly think that special players like Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Bale etc are micro managed? Or is it more realistic to think that their managers just let them play their football?
Di Maria has been very disappointing this season but a good portion of the blame has to be laid on LVG and his tactics.
Maybe delusional is the right word.
I wholly believe that the burglary incident is largely responsible for his poor performances. Added to the fact that we haven't utilised him well, at all.
I do think that Fergie would have had this guy bombing up and down the wing creating chance after chance. Yes we'd see inconsistencies, but you get that from players like himself and Nani. You need to take risks in life, whether they pay off or not is another question, however, you need to take them to move forward.
How about Robben? Doesn't he belong to that category?
FFS. Young is his first season was quite good. Valencia has been sh*te since last year. They both excelled under Fergie, however, injuries also hindered their progress.
I totally get where you're coming from mate and I agree with you. Di Maria has been appalling at times, but I truly believe that a Ferguson or Wenger would get so much more out of him by just letting him have a bit of freedom to do as he wants.
I am pretty sure that if a £40m bid came today we'd take it and all of Di Maria, van Gaal and Woodward would be happy/relieved.
Either that or we sell him for £8m to Inter/Milan/Atletico in 2 years at this rate.
Either that or we sell him for £8m to Inter/Milan/Atletico in 2 years at this rate.
He does mate, and LVG was able to get the best out of him for Holland.
He was allowed to play to his strengths and Holland benefitted immensely for it.
I just wish that he'd do the same and let our key players express themselves.
Then buy Bale for £100m and when he struggles to fit into the philosophy, sell him on for £15m a few years later.
I just can't buy into the idea that Van Gaal won't allow anyone express themselves, not when Robben is such an obvious counter-example.
The problem is none of our creative players have been playing well, as individuals. It's that simple. Ashley Young showed that it can be done, against City. Mata's showed some encouraging glimpes but nobody else has stepped up to the mark. And that can't be all down to the manager. Not when he has a proven track record of managing creative players who consistently won games for him, thanks to their individual brilliance.
He still played shite, no matter how you want to try to dress it up.
Valencia #7 season ?
Young hasn't been as effective as he was for Villa.
Hardly Exceptional players in their best seasons for United though, just players who did well for Fergies system, Valencia has not been Valencia since his one dimensional technique to beat a man was found out.
This is getting into Kagawa territory now.
Guess you're sort of right with regards to Valencia in 12/13, although, I didn't think he was that bad.
However, we still got a few good, if not great, years out of Valencia and one good season from Young.
I agree with you, but looking forward, is Di Maria a player suited to Van Gaal's football?
I'm increasingly unsure, he just really doesn't look like a fit to the system we're clearly building.
On the flip side he's had a CL winning season with Madrid, a World Cup semis in the summer and then the awful experience his family had this season, so it's understandable that he's not at his best.
Was really poor today, but still tried to make things happen. Still have faith he will eventually come good.
Enough of excuses and enough of blaming LVG. Matter of fact is he's been in a poor, very poor form for a good while now.
And enough of 'he makes things happen' stuff. Yeah he makes things like loosing posession or aimlessly crossing the ball happen.
And enough of 'he makes things happen' stuff. Yeah he makes things like loosing posession or aimlessly crossing the ball happen.
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