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2014-15 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
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32
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4
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13
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Varun said:
Its stupid to generalize the way you are.
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If anything, his comment is silly precisely to the extent that it isn't general enough; because people gravitate towards better wages in all walks of life, not just football. This should be a reason to be optimistic for United fans, rather than not.
 
Thought loyalty oaths went out in the 1950s. Not sure what we want from players-pass a test on United's history?

From what I've seen AdM plays hard and is finding his footing with the team. Happy he's here.
 
Moonwalker said:
If anything, his comment is silly precisely to the extent that it isn't general enough; because people gravitate towards better wages in all walks of life, not just football. This should be a reason to be optimistic for United fans, rather than not.
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It depends on the clubs in question. Pretty sure quite a few footballers would pick the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern and us over most other clubs even if the wages offered are slightly lower. The key here is the other club in question and the difference in wages offered.
 
Varun said:
It depends on the clubs in question. Pretty sure quite a few footballers would pick the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern and us over most other clubs even if the wages offered are slightly lower. The key here is the other club in question and the difference in wages offered.
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I'm sure there are some exceptions to the rule. The empirical test for this fact is fairly simple though; if indeed you could attract quality players with history, prestige, fan base etc. the clubs that you've mentioned would be bloody fools to not spend less money on wages. But they don't. In fact, all of those clubs are at the very top when it comes to wage spending. Go figure.

As a corollary, see if you can guess whether the next superstar choosing his future would rather pick AC Milan or City.
 
Well next time a rival company offers you double for the job you do, tell them "No! I do not care how much I earn, I'm loyal to my employer, even if he pays me less than what you are offering I will work for him."

I mean Angel probably lives a lavish life, he spends a lot on those close to him, he looks after them, he wants them to live in as much luxury as they can and that's his right like anybody else's, he also has a short career and what he earns must sustain not just during his lifetime but be passed down to his kids and grandkids too, he has every right to play for the club that will pay him the most for his services.

He's a contracter, we know what he offers and we also know he will do his best to provide that service, either we want it or we don't, if we do then we will have to pay more than others for it. This isn't just football, this is the world, I mean we pay Young 120k per week, Anderson has earned a fortune for doing so little, it's the way things work, Wayne Rooney is no different.

If Anderson cared about playing football he would have left long ago! He has stayed for the money.

Do you think Rooney is here because he loves the club? He is here because we were willing to pay him more than Chelsea, he doesn't even care about becoming the club's all-time top scorer, he cares about the cash money.

And what about Louis van Gaal? This is the same person who left AZ Alkamaar for a high paying job, he wanted to become Sunderland's manager because the job would pay well but as it was they chose Steve Bruce over him, eventually FC Bayern came calling and things worked out well for him in the end, he almost did the treble in his first season, after that he took a dutch side expected to get knocked out in the group stages to the semi-finals of the world cup, not that Steve Bruce couldn't do that.

I don't blame Louis van Gaal for wanting a high paying job, he had lost millions to Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme, the point is though his wage was very important in where he went after AZ.
 
Moonwalker said:
I'm sure there are some exceptions to the rule. The empirical test for this fact is fairly simple though; if indeed you could attract quality players with history, prestige, fan base etc. the clubs that you've mentioned would be bloody fools to not spend less money on wages. But they don't. In fact, all of those clubs are at the very top when it comes to wage spending. Go figure.

As a corollary, see if you can guess whether the next superstar choosing his future would rather pick AC Milan or City.
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I had a thought, if we offered Lucas Silva more money than Real Madrid, perhaps like 25% more in wages and agent fees, would he sign for us?
 
What about Reus? If we offer him far more than Madrid surely he would seriously consider us?

I'm not saying we should, a players worth however will vary because he might be far more valuable to us than Madrid, if Louis van Gaal decides to go 4-3-3 with Angel di Maria as LCM and not to sign Falcao then he will have money available (well he has that anyway but even more), he will need high level wide players and he might identify Reus as a target.

Reus would be very important to us and so our valuation of him might be higher than Madrid's and we might be willing to pay more for his services.

Furthermore a player of Reus' ability would cost a fortune but because of his situation he might go for less than what players of comparable quality tend to go for, I would happily pay him a massive signing on fee on the basis that his transfer cost is far below his 'market value', that is to say if we want comparable quality from another club it will probably cost us a fortune anyway and even by paying Reus this huge signing on fee we will end up paying less in total than if we were buying comparable quality from other clubs.

And I don't care if he is a mercenary, I'd sooner he be wearing a united shirt than madrid, call him whatever names you want.
 
Reus has had his injury problems, I also think he's a bit of a softy so I'm unsure he'd be suited to the Premier League.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I don't think that's true. Some, maybe. And with United you're not talking ancient history anyway. 70k stadium, full every weekend. For a lot of footballers that's a really big deal. We're not a bigger draw than Barca or Madrid but clearly a step up from City or PSG.
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I'm not sure how that's history, though? I mean, sure, the stadium was built in the past, but ...

And yeah, we're a step up from City and PSG, when we can offer CL football.
 
Should be taken off now, that was unbelievably poor. Completely useless today.
 
I don't know why people complain about Phil Jones taking corners when Di Maria is possibly the worst corner taker I've ever seen in my life.
 
He is surrounded by non threatening players and has all the responsibility to create out of nothing...
 
Just doesn't look up for it. Clearly not as good a player as we all thought he was six months ago.
 
He is our lone threat going forwards. Our two strikers are just too slow and static to cause any sort of problems against our opponents. This has been a recurring theme. We can't afford to field Falcao and RVP in the same lineup unless we are at Old Trafford. ADM and Janujaz should be flanking RVP/Rooney and that will see us create a lot more chances and have a lot more balance in midfield/defence.
 
Can't be said enough how much Modric, Alonso, Ronaldo and Bale helped Di Maria reach his absolute best last season.
 
Really didn't think he was worth it at the time and still don't. Serious question, would anyone take £40 million for him if a team like PSG offered it? If It was Nani out there, he'd be getting crucified by our fans.
 
Jagga7 said:
I really don't what your watching. He is the only attacking player who is doing anything what so ever! Easily the best out some very poor performances.
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Yeah, losing the ball constantly - that half assed effort that led to Rojo getting booked where he lost it simply and did nothing to try win it back was a highlight of his ineptitude in the first half. I'm not alone in seeing how bad he has been, thankfully.
 
Man-United said:
I'm tired of this now, awful signing.
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A stretch of poor form, way too early to judge the signing one way or the other (obviously the price was a bit too high) Rooney has been through a number of periods like it where nothing works for him. We saw at the start of the season how good he can be, we desperately need him to get back to those levels soon.
 
fecking hell, people blaming him for the fact our "midfield" has hardly had a touch of the ball? He can hardly do anything when they are controlling the whole game.

And we all know he is bad at corners. Doesn't mean he's not arsed or playing poorly just because his corners aren't good. It's just baffling we keep him on them.

The only time we look like doing anything progressive is when he gets the ball.
 
justboy68 said:
A stretch of poor form, way too early to judge the signing one way or the other (obviously the price was a bit too high) Rooney has been through a number of periods like it where nothing works for him. We saw at the start of the season how good he can be, we desperately need him to get back to those levels soon.
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True. But from the first 8 months he's been so poor, playing like a worse Nani. Apart from the first few games against big teams like Leicester, QPR and Everton he's been awful.
 
dirkey said:
Yeah, losing the ball constantly - that half assed effort that led to Rojo getting booked where he lost it simply and did nothing to try win it back was a highlight of his ineptitude in the first half. I'm not alone in seeing how bad he has been, thankfully.
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Lost the ball a few times, less then januzaj, Rooney, falcao or van Persie probably. Only playet to track back on the one counter attack to save us when Valencia was 1 on 1 with Valencia, but of course, he can't be arsed. Had our only good shot in the game as well. Maybe we should fecking get the ball to him if we want him to make an impact, not have him defend the whole game.
 
A lot of previous criticism has been off mark but he's been complete garbage so far
 
bosnian_red said:
Lost the ball a few times, less then januzaj, Rooney, falcao or van Persie probably. Only playet to track back on the one counter attack to save us when Valencia was 1 on 1 with Valencia, but of course, he can't be arsed. Had our only good shot in the game as well. Maybe we should fecking get the ball to him if we want him to make an impact, not have him defend the whole game.
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I don't think he's lost it less than any of them to be honest, but I don't know the exact stats. He gave it away quite a few times. I hope he turns it around in the 2nd half but I wouldn't be at all sad to see him taken off.
 
bosnian_red said:
Lost the ball a few times, less then januzaj, Rooney, falcao or van Persie probably. Only playet to track back on the one counter attack to save us when Valencia was 1 on 1 with Valencia, but of course, he can't be arsed. Had our only good shot in the game as well. Maybe we should fecking get the ball to him if we want him to make an impact, not have him defend the whole game.
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First second half involvement? Gives it away. Again. I guess you probably missed that too, in a nice attacking position.
 
dirkey said:
I don't think he's lost it less than any of them to be honest, but I don't know the exact stats. He gave it away quite a few times. I hope he turns it around in the 2nd half but I wouldn't be at all sad to see him taken off.
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Well if he comes off then we definitely won't score. Our only player who has looked remotely dangerous despite not playing that well. The problem is the other players around him, its idiotic to play with 3 strikers and the other midfielder being a 19 year old winger. Or 20 now. Di maria and everyone else will look better if we put on a couple of actual midfielders in there so we can actually start controlling the game and give di maria the ball. He's feeding off scraps.
 
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