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He isn't leaving any time soon, Even if we did sell him, I'd doubt we would even break even on his transfer fee unless PSG really really wanted him.
 
Relieved if he left!? :lol::lol:


Some of you better get used to the idea of mercenaries signing for Manchester United, this is the era we live in. We're no more attractive than City, and that's the hard truth.
 
Jesus, wanting our best player to leave because he came to us from a club who were doing better than us at the time and that instantly brands him a mercenary.
 

Lazio weren't Real Madrid and you still felt that he had a lot to prove at the highest level and that we were a step up that he earned.

A lot of players turn us down to go to Madrid, so I'd rather they never got the chance again. We have a lot to offer players and we can make superstars out of them if they're good enough, I'd rather that privilege went to players that dream of getting the chance and are willing to work their bollocks off for it, rather than some primadonna that Madrid turns players into.
 
Relieved if he left!? :lol::lol:


Some of you better get used to the idea of mercenaries signing for Manchester United, this is the era we live in. We're no more attractive than City, and that's the hard truth.

Bullshit. There's literally millions of footballers that would love to play here. Di Marias desire to come here has been questionable since day one.

Why not try and find the next big thing and get them here, something that served us well enough for decades. It's not sustainable for us to keep bringing in players like Di Maria on such huge money.
 
Bullshit. There's literally millions of footballers that would love to play here. Di Marias desire to come here has been questionable since day one.

Why not try and find the next big thing and get them here, something that served us well enough for decades. It's not sustainable for us to keep bringing in players like Di Maria on such huge money.
There's literally millions of footballers that would love to play for City too.

Di Maria won't be the last mercenary here, neither is he the first.
 
Bullshit. There's literally millions of footballers that would love to play here. Di Marias desire to come here has been questionable since day one.

Why not try and find the next big thing and get them here, something that served us well enough for decades. It's not sustainable for us to keep bringing in players like Di Maria on such huge money.

You want us to stick to signing players for around £20 million? Because SAF left with his last few signings being Smalling, Jones, Zaha, Young etc. Same players everyone moans about now.

Then there was RVP who was a short term signing. Worth it for the title, but still.

Also we signed both Rojo and Blind each for under £20 million btw...
 
Not spending big on footballers cost us players like Hazard, so feck that. You do what you must to get the best. I'm not saying we need to constantly pump up megabucks for superstars, but the idea that you should have a limit of £20m per player or something is crazy. I mean why? Pride or something?

It's not like it's one or the other either, as was said above, look at Blind and Rojo.
 
I feel little affiliation to di Maria, which is strange, but I know he's a joy to watch at times and an incredibly important player for us going forward. I'll enjoy his time here with us. Feeling relieved if he left is beyond ridiculous though, especially with the club in the state it is.
 
Robben yeah, Sneijder had one good season.

Good? I would call it a perfect season. He was very important in winning the league, the cl and a cup more than just good. He was also (in my opinion) the best and most important player at the wc that year although thats international and not club football.

After that treble season he wasnt bad either but ofcourse he couldnt recreate that perfect season.
 
Relieved if he left!? :lol::lol:


Some of you better get used to the idea of mercenaries signing for Manchester United, this is the era we live in. We're no more attractive than City, and that's the hard truth.

Of course we are more attractive than City. Most footballers hadn't even heard of them 10 years ago.
 
You want us to stick to signing players for around £20 million? Because SAF left with his last few signings being Smalling, Jones, Zaha, Young etc. Same players everyone moans about now.

Then there was RVP who was a short term signing. Worth it for the title, but still.

Also we signed both Rojo and Blind each for under £20 million btw...

I don't even buy into that shit about RVP being worth it for the title. He's probably going to cost us £50 mill or so in total, for one player. How is that worth one league title? He's been bang average ever since.

And your list of players that Fergie made is incredibly selective.
 
How is it a fact? Just because you state it as a fact, it doesn't make it one.

City are bankrolled by multiple billionaires, they have to pay obscene money to make these players think twice about going there.
Kind of like how we thickened di Maria's pockets so the lack of Champions League football wasn't an issue? United's and City's transfer business is closer to each other nowadays more so than they ever.
 
Kind of like how we thickened di Maria's pockets so the lack of Champions League football wasn't an issue? United and City's transfer business are closer to each other nowadays then they ever have been.

Yeah, and wasn't that the point I was making to begin with? He's a mercenary that didnt give a shit about us a year ago. He even seemed to want to go to PSG over us when he had the chance. Why we bother with players like that is beyond me. I've seen plenty of posters say they can't take to him and this is the reason why.
 
How is it a fact? Just because you state it as a fact, it doesn't make it one.

City are bankrolled by multiple billionaires, they have to pay obscene money to make these players think twice about going there.

That's the way it's going. I remember when Shaw was linked with both us and Chelsea and was apparently a Chelsea fan as a boy. It then hit me that he was 7 when Abramovich took over, and they've been title challengers for likely as long as he can remember. Obviously City have a way to go, especially in Europe, but they're not going away. It's been 7 years since their takeover, a long time in the mind of a 22 year old man with no affiliation to United for example. It isn't just about money anymore. It won't be long before you've got 17 year olds saying they idolised Yaya and their earliest memory is the 3-2 QPR game.
 
Yeah, and wasn't that the point I was making to begin with? He's a mercenary that didnt give a shit about us a year ago. He even seemed to want to go to PSG over us when he had the chance. Why we bother with players like that is beyond me. I've seen plenty of posters say they can't take to him and this is the reason why.
Like I said above, I feel little love for di Maria, but I at least know he's an incredible footballer. Relief when he leaves is ridiculous.
 
Like I said above, I feel little love for di Maria, but I at least know he's an incredible footballer. Relief when he leaves is ridiculous.

Like I said, it might just be me with such a stance. Though others have said they can't take to him. For me, personally, it takes the enjoyment out of it. No matter how well he does, it'll just be a case of "well yeah, we've paid enough for it". Any success he has will feel hollow to me.
 
It isn't if you think about it, sorry.

If United and City are offering a player the same terms, We are 100% a more attractive destination, The fact you even think we aren't is hilarious man. Arguably the biggest club on the planet, 20x Champions compared to a team that can't fill a 45,000 seater stadium and haven't got a single CL title to their name and will fall right back of the face of this Earth if FFP continues.

Ceterus Parabus, we should be a lot more attractive to players compared to Man City.
 
Like I said, it might just be me with such a stance. Though others have said they can't take to him. For me, personally, it takes the enjoyment out of it. No matter how well he does, it'll just be a case of "well yeah, we're paying enough for it". Any success he has will feel hollow to me.
Agree somewhat. But still, he's world class, lets enjoy his time here?
 
If United and City are offering a player the same terms, We are 100% a more attractive destination, The fact you even think we aren't is hilarious man. Arguably the biggest club on the planet, 20x Champions compared to a team that can't fill a 45,000 seater stadium and haven't got a single CL title to their name and will fall right back of the face of this Earth if FFP continues.

Ceterus Parabus, we should be a lot more attractive to players compared to Man City.
Do you really believe that right now? Honestly? Things change very quickly but come on... Think about it. Really think about it. Take the rose tinted shades off and really think about it.
 
If United and City are offering a player the same terms, We are 100% a more attractive destination, The fact you even think we aren't is hilarious man. Arguably the biggest club on the planet, 20x Champions compared to a team that can't fill a 45,000 seater stadium and haven't got a single CL title to their name and will fall right back of the face of this Earth if FFP continues.

Ceterus Parabus, we should be a lot more attractive to players compared to Man City.

Exactly, it's Citys money that makes them attractive.
 
Agree somewhat. But still, he's world class, lets enjoy his time here?

I'd love to, but I just don't seem to be able to. When we all used to take the piss out of City and Chelsea for signing mercenaries and having to pay big money to convince them, I actually meant it. Others have flip-flopped on that stance massively these last 2 years, getting excited about Woodward needing to make a marquee/statement signing etc.
 
I suppose we're never happy. :lol:

We bemoaned the clubs lack of movement for top class players in the transfer market for years. Many of us wanted Woodward out. The big signings finally come and we label 'em mercenaries.
 
I also don't get why people are so angry he would've chosen PSG, I mean, who wouldn't right now, quite frankly? Top of their league, CL football, and most of all, located in Paris. It's not like it's an insult to the club that he would have, a lot of players would, I'm just happy they couldn't afford him. I'd say it'd be a different story if he was choosing between us and them if it was similar to our situation two years ago, i.e. top of the league and in the CL.
 
Do you really believe that right now? Honestly? Things change very quickly but come on... Think about it. Really think about it. Take the rose tinted shades off and really think about it.

Yes I do believe that. No red tinted glasses here, I'm looking at this objectively, and there should be absolutely no reason if all things are equal, City being even remotely close to us in attracting players.

As for trophies, we won 2 trophies in 2013 and have a very good chance of winning a record breaking 12th FA cup. It's not like we are on some Arsenal level trophy drought lol.
 
Yes I do believe that. No red tinted glasses here, I'm looking at this objectively, and there should be absolutely no reason if all things are equal, City being even remotely close to us in attracting players.

As for trophies, we won 2 trophies in 2013 and have a very good chance of winning a record breaking 12th FA cup. It's not like we are on some Arsenal level trophy drought lol.
They're not equal though. City are in the Champions League and competing for the league. We are not.
 
We seem to be getting into this whole "bigger club" discussion again but anyway - players look at the future much more than fans, who look at the past.

The reasons United fans will give for players choosing us (money being equal) are our history, our trophies, and the number of spectators.
Players are more bothered about who's winning tomorrow, not who won yesterday. And City are just as likely to win trophies as us in the near future (perhaps more so)

Plus the fact that a handful of huge names have spent four or five years at City (and not just a year or two before leaving) is definitely increasing their profile. They're seen as a club for big players.
 
I don't even buy into that shit about RVP being worth it for the title. He's probably going to cost us £50 mill or so in total, for one player. How is that worth one league title? He's been bang average ever since.

And your list of players that Fergie made is incredibly selective.

Who did I miss out? Kagawa? Hernandez? Obviously De Gea was a very good signing, but that's not the point. Blind and Rojo could be very good signings as well, and so far they have done well.
 
Saw only the highlights of our last game and he seemed to create or play a big part in the majority of our chances.
 
I'd love to, but I just don't seem to be able to. When we all used to take the piss out of City and Chelsea for signing mercenaries and having to pay big money to convince them, I actually meant it. Others have flip-flopped on that stance massively these last 2 years, getting excited about Woodward needing to make a marquee/statement signing etc.
I thought everyone was just saying it to piss off their fans but didn't actually care too much about it? Its a player going to play football for money at the end of the day. There are a handful of things they care about: their wages, potential success with the club and their role in the team, and the city they live in. Very rarely does history play a part. Hell, if we weren't successful all those years, do you think Giggs and scholes would have stayed here their whole careers? No chance IMO.
 
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