I never had a problem with any club paying big money for top players, it's the source of the money I ridicule.
Oil money vs Revenue built on the back of years of success.
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I never had a problem with any club paying big money for top players, it's the source of the money I ridicule.
Oil money vs Revenue built on the back of years of success.
Was ronaldo a mercenary or did he love the club?
I've seen Di Maria be the best and most exciting player on teams with Ronaldo Messi and Bale. Tells you something.
I don't think that's true. Some, maybe. And with United you're not talking ancient history anyway. 70k stadium, full every weekend. For a lot of footballers that's a really big deal. We're not a bigger draw than Barca or Madrid but clearly a step up from City or PSG.
As is always the case, damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Criticize Glazers for years for being thrifty [despite Ferguson and Gill taking pleasure in splashing silly money and wages on average Joes like Young, Valencia, Bebe etc], then criticize the club for signing a top player, Lol. It's 2015 lads, times have changed, Ferguson is no longer manager and that uniqueness about us is now gone, we are like any other club out there, if we want top players, we have to pay top money, and Woodward gets it. Is there any glory in mediocrity or what, I don't get this mentality. Di Maria is class and we need top players to attract other top players, he'll settle down and starts deliering very soon, then everyone will forget his transfer fee.
Can't believe theres people here saying they don't want real madrid cast offs reffering to him 
On his day he's top 5/6 players in the world and people calling him a mercenary for commanding such a high fee and wages with his reputation is daft. He's joined a squad that's rebuilding in every sense from players to playing style. He'll obviously come good once we have settled.
On his day he's top 5/6 players in the world and people calling him a mercenary for commanding such a high fee and wages with his reputation is daft. He's joined a squad that's rebuilding in every sense from players to playing style. He'll obviously come good once we have settled.
In summary, if we buy players for huge fees, they're mercenaries, if we buy players for lower fees, they're not good enough for us and whichever we club we buy the player from we are only getting them because they are those clubs cast-offs . Ok follow this line of reasoning... NOT!
Yes we are, fact.
Why did RVP turn down City then? I know things have changed since with SAF going and us struggling last season but we are still a far more prestigious club. Thanks to FFP they can no longer blow us out of the water financially so that's one less advantage of going there over us. You else get to play in front of £75,000+ week in, week out at OT. City struggle to sell out the Etihad. The only thing City can offer us this season that we can't is CL football and I expect that to change next year along with us being title challengers.
I dunno. Isn't it pretty well documented that Di Maria wanted to go to PSG but they couldn't do the deal? I think money will trump most things.
Well that's what PSG were claiming. Whether it's true or not I don't know. Ballague seemed fairly clued in on this transfer and IIRC he never mentioned PSG. Di Maria himself said Ronaldo played a big role in him coming here.
I completely agree about money being a huge factor. Part of my point was that City can no longer trump us in that regard. If anything we can probably offer better wages then them these days.
All things being equal, it probably will. Mind you, we can't assume all players are motivated by the same things. I'm sure there's a lot of players out there who would be willing to earn slightly less to play in a packed Old Trafford every week, instead of < 50k fans in the Parc des Princes. Not to mention the relative prestige of the two leagues. Although that will depend massively on where they're brought up.
Who said he wanted PSG? Haven't seen those comments but I assume they come from the player himself?
Because of Ferguson.
That's definitely how it was for me. Plus I genuinely wanted us to sign a good number of the players who then moved to the moneybags - Aguero, Silva, Mata, Hazard, etc.
Obviously the motivations are different for each player, but most of them are trying to act as professionally as possible. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Dunno about Scholes and Giggs though, there's a difference in players' motivations when they grow up at the club they supported as a kid (at least there used to be...).
di Maria is our best player, and we should build a system which helps him, not hinders him.
Living in Paris is a huge draw. Unfortunately that probably supersedes our significantly better footballing pedigree for many players.
You're probably right. Paris is a weird one. One of the most impressive cities in Europe but feck alll footballing heritage.
Personally feel it's massively biased and short sighted to suggest we're more attractive than City right now. It's actually a laughable opinion.
Like feck is it laughable. Even if we ignore reputation, heritage, size of stadium and attendance at games how's about we look at the respective records in the CL of the two clubs? Even under David Fecking Moyes we went deeper in the competition than City have ever done, in their entire history and it took a farcical display from Bayern Munich to stop them getting knocked out in the group stages again this season. That's going to be an issue for players coming from the continent.
We're not even in the competition!
We're not talking about who was more attractive last summer!
Obviously, a club that can offer CL football with have the edge over one that doesn't. If United can get back in the top four then their record in the competition will make them a much more appealing prospect than City, barring some sort of amazing run from them this spring.
Quite sure we will be when it comes to bringing players in again.
Us not being in the Champions League is obviously not the norm and by next season order will have been restored.
My comment said right now, not last summer.
I would agree, definitely.
But my original point still stands. There's very little between ourselves and City nowadays when it comes to attracting players, as the majority of 'em couldn't care less about our history.
We still have the glamour of being a big club, a legendary one in fact. That's a big pull for some players IMO.
It probably is to some, but definitely not all. Look at the likes of Silva and Aguero.
Sport are saying that Di Maria might be off at the end of the season. Don't know how reliable they are but it could just be assumptions due to the burglary.
http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/francia/maria-quiere-dejar-united-fichar-por-psg-3916060
http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/francia/maria-quiere-dejar-united-fichar-por-psg-3916060
A club would have to pay more than what we paid last summer to sign him, in my opinion, so don't see him going anywhere.
The only reason Silva and Aguero are at City is because SAF didnt want to pay the fees required to get them....same goes for Hazard at Chelsea. Now that we are paying market rates for players we are a bigger draw IMO.
I disagree because we're not in Europe and not in the title race, but things can change very quickly.
Back to Real in exchange for Bale........
The funny thing about that is, they didn't even go for ridiculous fees. Aguero, Toure and Silva were all a steal. If we had of forked out for at least one of those players, we'd be a lot better off right now.
Right now? The transfer window is closed. The next time a player has to decide between the two clubs there's a decent chance both of them will be in the CL. So what's laughable about saying United might be a more attractive prospect?
I don't see how the current situation is relevant when it comes to attracting players. By the time the transfer window opens we'll probably have qualified for the Champions League.
Footballers are like dogs they will go to whoever is holding the bigger biscuit.
A transfer window closed less than a week ago.
Its stupid to generalize the way you are.
Strange, I thought we signed 6 players last summer including ADM with no CL to offer them, or maybe it was my imagination
Silva, aguero and Hazard would all go for 2-3 times the amount they were bought for initially.
SAF didnt anticipate the inflation of the market and we were slow to react to the flow of oil money into the game.... this coupled with the fact that we never seemed to buy big from a position of power has all lead us into the position we are in today. It will take a few transfer windows to sort it out but we are on the right path.
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