Ange Postecoglou

AshRK said:
How come we have never beaten his spurs side. On paper we should be scoring against them for fun but we lost 0-3 to them.
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Exactly. We’ve played four games against Spurs under Postecoglou and they’ve won three and drawn one. That’s really bad.
 
Has to go after that absolute murder at home no? Not like the form has been great and it is a one off loss, seems the team is all over the shop. He might get a pass because they have a crazy injury crisis and are down to bare bones and playing an 18y/o kid out of position at CB.

The recruitment team really needs to be shipped out with big Ange. Werner was not good enough for Chelsea who wanted to challenge for top 4 and Spurs decided to grab him? Apart from that they brought in Dragusin(who?) and a bunch of kids, who may be good in 4-6 years time, but then again they might not. The only player of any note they got was Solanke and to me he is not that much of an upgrade over Richarlison, OK granted, he is a lot fitter than Richarlison.

Maybe big Ange is a bit of a yes man and wont rock the boat like Conte did in regards to how the club is run and the recruitment, but there are limits, and the fans are turning on him and the team.
 
Let him stay. Spurs feel like spurs again. In the end, I think they are happier having nothing to play for but playing entertaining football.
 
They're bloody entertaining, but I don't really know how sustainable it is to be a proper consistent top team. They always look shakey but can score. They could sneak a league cup eventually maybe?
 
Judas said:
They're bloody entertaining, but I don't really know how sustainable it is to be a proper consistent top team. They always look shakey but can score. They could sneak a league cup eventually maybe?
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I don't think he'll get another season if this remains the pattern in the league.

As for this season, their next league cup encounter is against yesterday's opponents.
 
If he just keeps doing it, it will work eventually. He says so himself. Let him cook!
 
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Ange Testicoglou!!!
 
Hyped up version of Bielsa, trying to play Keegan-ball without having the best attack in the league.
 
Clearly having a very poor spell and missing the injured players massively but they could still win a first trophy in decades in the Carabao and a decent run in the new year likely gets them European football again and how can anyone expect more with their resources? I understand the knee jerk need to fire a manager when things are spiralling but Spurs are right up there with us for churning through Managers and nothing ever changes for them, they might as well stick with Ange and see if he can figure it out unless the bottom completely falls out.
 
They are going to wait to see if he makes the cup final before firing him 2 days before the final.
 
Gandalf said:
Clearly having a very poor spell and missing the injured players massively but they could still win a first trophy in decades in the Carabao and a decent run in the new year likely gets them European football again and how can anyone expect more with their resources? I understand the knee jerk need to fire a manager when things are spiralling but Spurs are right up there with us for churning through Managers and nothing ever changes for them, they might as well stick with Ange and see if he can figure it out unless the bottom completely falls out.
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Eh? They have the highest net spend since Ange has been there as manager, and that’s with Chelsea going insane and them selling Kane. According to transfer market they have spent €376m since Ange has been there. I would expect more with that much money spent.
 
Gandalf said:
Clearly having a very poor spell and missing the injured players massively but they could still win a first trophy in decades in the Carabao and a decent run in the new year likely gets them European football again and how can anyone expect more with their resources? I understand the knee jerk need to fire a manager when things are spiralling but Spurs are right up there with us for churning through Managers and nothing ever changes for them, they might as well stick with Ange and see if he can figure it out unless the bottom completely falls out.
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No way they're winning that trophy.
 
Bojan11 said:
Eh? They have the highest net spend since Ange has been their manager, and that’s with Chelsea going insane and them selling Kane. According to transfer market they have spent €376m since Ange has been there. I would expect more with that much money spent.
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The squad he inherited was shite though and that money has gone on upgrading a handful of starters and as you rightly point out they had to replace their best player which they have only done this season and with someone who is absolutely a downgrade. I really don't think anyone looking at Spurs squad thinks they are likely to do any better than a Europa spot when compared to the teams around them and they were pacing for that before the injury bug bit hard over the last few weeks. I would certainly fault Spurs and maybe Ange for not having a better back up keeper than Forster who was fairly crap in his prime let alone now but I still stand by the point that ditching him now would be a knee jerk reaction. He needs to figure out how to get more from his squad players but I still expect them to be in the European places at seasons end and for Spurs that represents success under this regime.
 
always_hoping said:
How is he still managing a club that got rid of better managers much sooner?
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Tottenham is the biggest club he'll ever manage so he's not going to throw a tantrum or start taking shots at the club like Conte or Mourinho. He won't force his own way out, so it'll be up to Levy and the fans

Currently at 1.59 points per league match though, which is barely better than Nuno's 1.5. Its been a genuinely awful run for him since the hot start last year.
 
Don't Spurs actually have any promising young CBs at the club? Archie Gray is doing his best but he didn't sign for them to start 4-5 games at CB surely.

They gambled too much thinking Van De Ven with his style wasn't going to get another long term injury.
 
Powderfinger said:
Tottenham is the biggest club he'll ever manage so he's not going to throw a tantrum or start taking shots at the club like Conte or Mourinho. He won't force his own way out, so it'll be up to Levy and the fans

Currently at 1.59 points per league match though, which is barely better than Nuno's 1.5. Its been a genuinely awful run for him since the hot start last year.
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I think given he's made those statements about winning stuff he's kind of made the league season irrelevant now in a strange way. Spurs aren't good enough currently for CL so it's all on what they do in FA, league cup and Europa.

If they're out of all those cups by March he'll probably be sacked and managing West Ham at the start of next season.
 
Gandalf said:
The squad he inherited was shite though and that money has gone on upgrading a handful of starters and as you rightly point out they had to replace their best player which they have only done this season and with someone who is absolutely a downgrade. I really don't think anyone looking at Spurs squad thinks they are likely to do any better than a Europa spot when compared to the teams around them and they were pacing for that before the injury bug bit hard over the last few weeks. I would certainly fault Spurs and maybe Ange for not having a better back up keeper than Forster who was fairly crap in his prime let alone now but I still stand by the point that ditching him now would be a knee jerk reaction. He needs to figure out how to get more from his squad players but I still expect them to be in the European places at seasons end and for Spurs that represents success under this regime.
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We've also bought a lot of young players. In the summer we signed Solanke and four teenagers, he hasn't been backed in the short-term. The wage bill has also been cut in that time and we were already far below our rivals in that regard.

Most Spurs fans want him gone now, maybe I just like to go against the grain and weirdly enjoy the suffering but I'm happy to let it play out at least until the end of the season. So sick of churning through managers, about time we did something radical and stuck by one.
 
Bale Bale Bale said:
We've also bought a lot of young players. In the summer we signed Solanke and four teenagers, he hasn't been backed in the short-term. The wage bill has also been cut in that time and we were already far below our rivals in that regard.

Most Spurs fans want him gone now, maybe I just like to go against the grain and weirdly enjoy the suffering but I'm happy to let it play out at least until the end of the season. So sick of churning through managers, about time we did something radical and stuck by one.
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Cool, an actual Spurs fan on this thread. So what's the idea with the young CBs then as Archie Gray playing there currently surely wasn't part of the thinking in August?

I could understand trying it last summer when it was just one game a week for most part but asking for trouble just going with three main CBs when you're playing Thurs-Sun so much.
 
FootballHQ said:
Cool, an actual Spurs fan on this thread. So what's the idea with the young CBs then as Archie Gray playing there currently surely wasn't part of the thinking in August?

I could understand trying it last summer when it was just one game a week for most part but asking for trouble just going with three main CBs when you're playing Thurs-Sun so much.
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I count Davies as a main CB, so four, problem is we've had three of the four out injured and now Dragusin's picked something up. It's hard to account for but there's likely also some correlation between how Ange plays and the prevalence of injuries we have. We have a couple of young CBs out on loan but again we're talking about teenagers, we shouldn't be in a position where we're relying on them. Gray in isolation has actually done pretty well there all things considered, it's not ideal but that's all we have at the moment. I don't want to pin everything on injuries but when your game is based so heavily around high energy and intensity, it's not a shock that we've fallen completely flat when we're flogging the same players from game to game. I guess this is where Ange is supposed to adapt/change but he's told us enough times by now that he won't so not much point exploring that. Today wasn't really a case of tiredness or kamikaze tactics though, more just a lack of quality to break down a stubborn Forest side and got done on the break.

I like Ange and when it goes well it goes really well, that's the only reason I'm ok with letting this play out as everything else really points towards him deserving the sack.
 
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