Dier being linked at 50 mil GBP make people trying too hard for alternative to save money, me think?
Andre Gomes
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From the looks of things at Barca he was bought to replace busquets, that hasn't really worked out for him as he played in a 2 man Midfield at Valencia and naturally prefers to get forward. Barca have tried get him to adapt, even though he's improved Defensively he's still likes to attack and naturally looks better there. Pogba gone under the same development and under Mourinho he's been told to sit back and doesn't get forward as much as he did when he was at Juventus.
Both players are good going forward and both players over the last year have developed Defensively hence why I believe a double pivot of Pogba and Gomes would work in a 2 man Midfield and allow to play an attacking midfielder or with 2 strikers. Herrera has exceeded expectations playing the holding/destroyer/pest #6 why change it, we can alter formation depending on tactics.
People talking like a Barcelona reject is not good enough for us in the state we're in… If we were going 4-4-2, he might be useful, although he's not the strong defensive midfielder I think we need. If I recall well, he used to sub Matić in Benfica's midfield two. I always thought he was not mature enough to be sold yet, but seems he proved himself in Mendes' players Valencia show room. What worries me about André Gomes is the lack of concentration he sometimes shows.
I wouldn't mind strengthening our squad with him. His talented and improvable
Same thing happened with Danilo at Real Madrid.
Played part of his first season with an injury, the fans already made their mind about him; now he plays under an imense pressure..
This kind of thing can happen with Real and Barca, so i never will take a definitive conclusion about players with great potential, but that are underperforming there.
Maybe a change of club/league can help Andre Gomes to achieve his best level.
The state we are in....the state of you .
If you guys are willing to pay 35 million for him, then I'll volunteer to buy his plane tickets to Manchester without a second thought.
If he naturally prefers to attack, why would we pair him with Pogba? He wouldn't compliment him at all.
Both Pogba and Gomes can attack and defend, playing a double pivot make it difficult to mark our Midfield
The opposition won't be worrying about marking it if they can literally walk through it.
If that's the case then Herrera can hold at #6.
Some people want fabinho where as I want Gomes, we're all free to have an opinion.
Herrera doesn't just sit in front of the defense line aka Carrick. He is asked to move up the pitch too. Fabinho signing was meant to free Herrera off the defensive duty a bit. Buying Gomes to play Herrera as dedicated defensive midfielder is going in circle
Nah he is crap. Has looked out of depth at Barca and he looked good in a Valencia side that barely struggled to get out of relegation.
I'm not going to deny that he has some talent,
But he doesn't suit Barcelona's style of play. He'd be much better in a counter attacking.
He was quality at Valencia and maybe Mourinho can bring the most out of him. Who knows.
But he doesn't suit Barcelona's style of play. He'd be much better in a counter attacking.
He was quality at Valencia and maybe Mourinho can bring the most out of him. Who knows.
Watching his touches in the Confederations match as we speak, no pace, no acceleration, no quality. This guy is vastly overrated.
Never seen him play well. Never!
To be honest I barely saw him at Barcelona this season, but I thought he had the potential to be a great player from some of the things he showed at Valencia when I was watching them weekly. However, it was way WAY too soon for him to be going to a top club. Moments of brilliance but his general level wasnt close to someone who moves for a big fee to a club like Barcelona. Doesnt surprise me at all that it hasnt worked out for him.
People are talking about him dictating tempo... playing with Pogba... No, he was an attacking midfielder at Valencia capable of some nice touches and technique, could beat a player and who could sometimes create something or score a good goal. He's nowhere near as good as Pogba but thats the type of player he is - offensive, final third player who needed to work on consistancy and productivity to be a main player for Valencia, let alone a top club.
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and I will pay for him to renounce the Portuguese citizenship
you aren't alone Barcelona and Portuguese fans never saw him playing, but if you watched the game today the thing you though was a glitch on your screen ... yep was him.
Ew, please no. A player with obvious quality. Looks like and plays like a generic FIFA/PES player.
looks like juve could be in the market. wonder if agent is trying to manufacture a move
And who will mark the opponents players, tackle, close passing lanes and win aerial duels when you don't have the ball?
With Pogba-Gomes double pivot you wouldn't make top 6. Guaranteed.
Gomes and Pogba can't play together unless we play 3-5-2 with a deep lying midfielder. Even then, I wouldn't get Gomes. He's been pretty average for both Barca and Portugal.
He didnt play in a 2 man midfield at Valencia. He played in a 3 man as the most advanced/attacking of the 3.
https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/55/Archive/Spain-Valencia?stageId=12647
I looked up his games for Barcelona and from the ones I looked at he was subbed on for Rakitic 2 times, started another and was subbed off for Mascherano, played right midfield and scored 2 goals with Busquets in CM, played right midfield with Busquets in CM again. So now im looking at his first games for Barcelona and he played left of the midfierld 3 with Busquets in CM, then right with Busquets in CM, then same again, and same again and then finally against City he was back on the left of the midfield 3 with Busquets in CM
So doesn't look like he was a replacement for Busquets at all, would have been a really odd choice in the first place but theres no evidence whatsoever from the lineups that he was playing his role or competing with him for it. Rakitic was the one he was being subbed with most but sometimes it was all of Gomes, Rakitic and Busquets playing.
Regardless here are some of his clips of where he did look like a player with potential for Valencia and in the areas he should be used.
He was used in a multitude of positions over the year and any sort of difficulties he had integrating I contend was down to how poorly he was used. And he was tried out as DM in matches, not a good choice there IMHO
I like the look of him - impressed with him so far in the Confed cup games.
It's really weird to see people complaining at this link. He's a good player, better than many of our current lot and with big potential if he can get back to playing regularly. At £30m or so he'd be a great signing.
We have Pogba in his position which makes it an unnecessary gamble on a player who has yet to have big season since he signed for Valencia. He's of the wrong type and with too little credibility.
He needs another season at a club similar to the size of Valencia, where he is one of the main men instead of just another player in the team like he was.
I've seen a decent amount of him over the past year and he's never impressed me. Looks neat and tidy on the ball on occasion, but I thought he was dog shite at the Euro's last summer and was shocked Barca got him (and relieved we "missed out" on him). Hope there's nothing in it.
Haha, epic goal considering the circumstances. Yeah, I like the player but even he can sense that most fans are not in his corner - shame really, hasn't deserved the rebuke considering how he's been used
I remember he was talked about a lot for Chelsea when Mourinho was in charge there.
He isn't better than Pogba or Herrera. He isn't a holding midfielder to complement those two either. Barcelona are linked with a better player (Seri) as his replacement, who we could easily target instead. There's nothing weird complaining about potential signings, when we have made mistakes in the past, quite a few actually.
If he replaces Fellaini in the squad/starting 11 I won't be complaining.
That's true of a lot of players, but not all of them are actually good enough to sign. They're just more appealing than Fellaini.
Average player with flashes of brilliance here and there. One of the many products of the Mendes hype machine.
Really think there's something in this.
Andre Gomes - who I personally feel was another option if we didn't get Pogba, was someone Jose was apparently looking at last season.
If we play a 3 man midfield next season, then he would be an excellent addition, in my opinion.
Andre Gomes - who I personally feel was another option if we didn't get Pogba, was someone Jose was apparently looking at last season.
If we play a 3 man midfield next season, then he would be an excellent addition, in my opinion.
If the quoted price is true then he would end up costing more than Fellaini. Main beef many have problem with him (people were craving about getting Fellaini for reasonable price at the start of 12-13 season where he destroyed our make shift defense). Fellaini as limited as he is has use for certain scenario. I struggle to think of a scenario this Gomes guy can be useful that worth taking gametime from our youngster, Axel & TFM as defensive midfielder, play maker Pereira... even Blind should be a shout for midfielder if his gametime being limited in the defense in case Lindelof bed in well, Shaw gets some good form...
30mil signing for not being even plan B (in context of current manager's plan) player is like Fellaini transfer all over, in a sense.
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With your logic we shouldn't have bought lindelof and we shouldn't be in the market for any new signing.
We need to look long term, were not exactly stacked in midfield, other Pogba and Herrera who are quality, we've an aging Carrick, plan b Fellaini, young prospect and inexperience in tuanzebe and Mensah. We need additions.
I would rather sign Sanches instead. If we're going for failed Portuguese transfers.
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