Anderson | 2013/14 Performances (on loan at Fiorentina)
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If Moyes can get him fit, which genuinely seems to have been a problem in the past, then I don't see why he can't be an effective squad player. It's certainly not worth fecking him off just because he didn't reach his potential - squad players are valuable assets.
Personally, I fecking love the goofy bastard and will be gutted if he leaves. Most likable character in the squad, for me. He's like a living cartoon.
Personally, I fecking love the goofy bastard and will be gutted if he leaves. Most likable character in the squad, for me. He's like a living cartoon.
I like him. I want to pinch his chubby cheeks.
I like his chubby face too.
I like his chubby face too.
He was an AM but with the injuries he has had, i think he has lost a step or two going forward. Thats why Fergie had him as a holding midfielder, Black Old (Roy) Keane so to speak.
5 years of useless and inconsistent performance, a big flop, nothing more to say.
Nothing like him. We bought Anderson after his big injury and we did so for a lot of money so we must have been absolutely sure he's fine. He doesn't hold, whoever his partner is holds. See : partnership with Cleverley who took the deepest, ball retention role
I love Anderson. I hope he never leaves.
Do you, by any chance, run the Greggs outside Old Trafford?
Fergie was just trying to make him a more rounded (heh) player so we could trust him in a midfield two.
That's really unfair. Inconsistent, yes, but his injuries have really punctuated his progress. Ando has always produced really good stretches of form when he's had a run of games. If you look at last season, for example, he didn't produce all that many poor performances - he was good on the majority of occasions he was selected.
The key is Ando's ability to stay fit. I know he's had loads of "this is his season" dawns, but I genuinely think it's worth giving him another whirl now there's new management in place. Moyes is renowned for producing really fit sides, so it could be good for Anderson.
I personally have never doubted the boy's ability.
Bit harsh I think.
I remember back in the World Club Championships in 2008-09 he was played behind Carrick in a two-man midfield, with Carrick playing more advanced role. Just didn't suit him plain and simple. I'd like to see him given a go as the AM in a three man midfield. Might not turn him into the player we all hoped he'd become but I think it would suit him more.
Personally I don't think he should be sold unless we signed adequate replacements. Doesn't hurt to have him around. And I agree completely with whoever said Lizardman's tough preseason could be exactly what he needs, plenty of physical activity to burn off those wobbly love handles.
Ando's played fine in a two-man midfield plenty of times. Granted, there are certain fixtures where we would be mad to do that, but reading some comments, you'd think he was utterly incapable.
I think the frequent injury absences have negatively coloured a lot of perceptions - i.e. people have conveniently forgotten the good spells of form he's produced in between injuries.
I think the frequent injury absences have negatively coloured a lot of perceptions - i.e. people have conveniently forgotten the good spells of form he's produced in between injuries.
There are three types of Anderson - the injured one, the one who plays like crap and the one who plays well. I fear the one who plays well is also the one we've seen less than the other two. He's had some great matches. When he's on song, he's fantastic, but it doesn't happen often enough. I'd write him off and move on, but I don't think we're going to be making massive changes this summer - like bringing in two midfielders - so I guess he's getting a reprieve.
The one who plays like crap is intrinsically linked to the one that is injured, which is understandable. Staying fit is the key to him producing any sort of consistency - can he do that...?
Magical Van Persie's who get injured time and time again for years and then suddenly are almost never injured are rare. So I haven't much hope for Anderson.
Not sure why anyone would be especially bothered if Anderson stayed or left. He genuinely is anonymous and nothing more than a squad player. If he's happy to be that then fair enough but he isn't going to push us on to the next level in midfield so if his presence and wage is hindering our progression in that area then it might be beneficial for him to go.
I like Anderson as a character and would love to see him do well but I think the best move for all concerned would be to sell him. He just hasn't made the impact we hoped he would (and he's had 6 years to do it).
He's taking up a squad place which a younger player or a new signing could thrive on.
He's taking up a squad place which a younger player or a new signing could thrive on.
His role on free kicks is worth a contract. I'd have him on the bench and bring him on if we have any 90th minute free kicks within range.
That face is priceless
That face is priceless
I heard that Fergie had a bit of a soft spot for him.....
I think the point is that he's basically deadwood. He's taking up a position in the squad while doing very little. He was signed as a youngster and hasn't really shown his ability in any season, he's struggled with fitness and is therefore a liability. If the chips were down and we had an injury crisis in midfield, we'd need to rely on him and I think there would be more chance of him already being on the injury list in the first place. He's had his chance at the club, 7 years?!? He's done very little with it. Showing glimpses now and then over 7 years isn't enough for a club like ours.
As someone said above, the only reason he's still at United is because we're so low on quality in Midfield. But should that be a reason to keep an under performing player?
According to the Sunday Times interview: We need to see how it works. Maybe in a year’s time we might have to look at something else. The first year, I think I have to get a chance to see [the players] and how best to use them.
I would assume he will keep most of this squad for another year.
I would assume he will keep most of this squad for another year.
Excatly. We don't have a major problem with Anderson as a squad player. But we want better, more consistent and less injured squad players.
if we get one midfielder, then a squad of four of carrick, cleverly, ando and new cm is good enough for me.
I will be glad if moyes can try him for another season.
I will be glad if moyes can try him for another season.
No its not harsh...its the truth. He's a passenger. Its because of his childish, affable, dipshit persona that he hasn't progressed his game, managed to train appropriately and lay off the pastry. Yes he has had injuries but I wonder how hard he has worked to prevent them or indeed recover appropriately from them? Its not like he had tendonitis and shattered knees like Hargreaves. He has talent but he hasn't made the most of it, and neither has the club.
The only reason he is still gooning about at the front of every on pitch title celebration is Alex Ferguson's pride.
Hard to believe that some seem to genuinely still hold hope for this lad.
Nonsense. It was quite a straightforward idea to give him another season last year as a final chance - many on here backed it - mostly due to him and Cleverley's performances at the beginning of 2011. The final chance didn't work out, SAF is no longer manager. Absolutely nothing to do with pride.
Fergie was a genius at managing the dressing room. Team spirit, harmony etc should not be underrated.
SAF has every right to be fecking proud you bellend.
Was he too proud to unload a player he signed? Of course he fecking wasn't.
You're right on the first part, and I think his signing was a mistake by Ferguson, seeing as he didn't really fit well with your system.
That said I wouldn't be too confident on him performing much better in a free AM role now. That may have been where he was destined to shine 6 years ago, but after being placed/having his training focused out of position for so long, being injury plagued, possibly demotivated (in comparison with 6 years ago) and having lost some work ethic and physical capability in general, I think he's destined to be average at best wherever he plays.
Talent requires work, and his work doesn't seem to have been focused on what were his most natural abilities. It's not like you can re-do the whole process and start from scratch.
Well at least he could burn off some of those excess calories. Provided there is no pancake supper before or after. I bet he fecking loves maple syrup....Hargreaves probably introduced him to it. fecking Canadians.
You may be right about that. But we still need squad players. With Ando there seems to be this idea that he must either, finally, become a true world beater - or he's completely useless to us. The former won't happen, I think we can safely say that. But the latter simply isn't true. If he can remain fit he can do a job for us as a squad player.
The only reason we keep on hoping is that year after year we don't add to the midfield we then look back with rose tinted glasses on his performances pick out the best ones and then extrapolate from there that this year will be his- a kind of dystopian Liverpudlian delusion.
Spot on. If he was at any other club, I seriously doubt that many on here would rate him. People like to fondly remember the Anderson / Cleverley midfield from the start of the 11/12 season (which in my opinion is wildly exaggerated on here) and hope he can rediscover that kind of form. Oh, and plenty on here will also bang on about how he 'bossesd' Fabregas in one game about 6 years ago.
Jesus. You'd think he shagged your sister or something!
If he had shagged mine, I would probably be bragging about it, not calling him names. Maybe he didn't do a good job on her?
Sure, but at the same time, every time I saw Diaby play for Arsenal I thought he was a real gem, so too bad for him and the club that he seemed to get injured every time he played. I think I may have viewed Ando in the same light, really.
If he had shagged mine, I would probably be bragging about it, not calling him names. Maybe he didn't do a good job on her?
Anderson couldn't do a good job on anything but a packet of fig rolls.
I've always had a big of a soft spot for Ando, and want him to succeed. Not sure why. Was the same with Veron and, to a lesser extent, Kleberson believe it or not.
Doesn't look good for Anderson then.
Since it looks like no one wants Ando, he's not going anywhere. He can do a job as a squad man for United by my God he has to start taking care of himself and lay off the jelly-filled donuts. You never know, he just might have to start 2 or 3 games straight and be expected to play through the full 90.
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