Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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You really think a club like United wouldn't do that without permission from Bilbao? Come on - surely you know better than that?
You're just looking to blame Woodward for something that may completely out of his hands - Bilbao are obviously the culprit here, if it fails its down to them.
Classic United. Really haven't a clue what they're doing in the transfer market. I can see this summer turning into a farce yet again.
BBC and Men saying club still confident. Would have been briefed.
What's your problem?
The medical has to be done at some point. We're under a lot of time pressure here because of the July 1st increase on his release clause. And you're saying it's a bad thing that we've got the medical out of the way already?
Not sure you've really thought this through...
Our official photographer, Norwood said he was.
If Bilbao gave us permission they wouldn't be publicly rejecting us and taking the piss on twitter would they?
Yes, I'd imagine this bid was actually rejected days ago, and they're only announcing it now to appease fans(that they fought to keep him) as the other path has been taken and they can do nothing about it.
well either Mr Norwood is lying, or man united acted very stupidly.
Athletic keeps playing their game, as i've said numerous times they would.
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link - how Bayern did it.
So i think Athletic tactic is to draw this on, until his release clause increases. Which again posts a question, why have not we moved for him in like early June? We have been scouting him for years.
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link - how Bayern did it.
So i think Athletic tactic is to draw this on, until his release clause increases. Which again posts a question, why have not we moved for him in like early June? We have been scouting him for years.
If we've done the groundwork, it's because we believe we won't be paying the tax (though we may pay heavy legal fees).
If we haven't done the groundwork Athletic may be able to stall the deal for long enough that the clause goes up to €40m
get a grip.
Exactly. They're spiteful as feck due to their Basque only policy.The cnuts
What difference does it make to them.
Athletic are a rich club who don't want to sell their best players. They always go to extreme measure to keep their players.The cnuts
What difference does it make to them.
According to some articles, if the money goes through Herrera, it could be liable to income tax. Most likely, we will go the Bayern route and pass it on through lawyers to the Spanish authorities. If it goes that way, and perhaps if we provide some "grease" to the tax regulators, we will avoid taxes.
Calm down. It was probably expected and the club will now go the Bayern route.
@Cina the newbs can't be any worse than this, can they?
All right we got it, you want to blame the club and Woodward for all this..
That fits with the tweet in post #8646
That was expected. If I remember correctly the player has to pay his release clause, not the club. But if we would give the 36m€ to the player to buy himself out, he'd have to pay taxes on that (which is over 10m€ tax). Bayern deposited 40m 'in name' of the player to get around that.
Bilbao will do anything to keep him, anything to break the deal. They don't care about the money. They probably don't even mind whether the release clause is 36m€ or 40m€ - they just want to fed us up till we finally back off from the deal.
Bilbao will do anything to keep him, anything to break the deal. They don't care about the money. They probably don't even mind whether the release clause is 36m€ or 40m€ - they just want to fed us up till we finally back off from the deal.
I think United are going to think twice about dealing with this lot again
He will still sign for us.
The thing is, now we live in a world where every little move is advertised via social networking, we see the stages a transfer goes through.
In the old days, you would just turn on the morning news whilst eating your Coco Pops before school and find out we've just bought Andy Cole.
Chill, dudes. Sam has told me it's going to be ok.
The thing is, now we live in a world where every little move is advertised via social networking, we see the stages a transfer goes through.
In the old days, you would just turn on the morning news whilst eating your Coco Pops before school and find out we've just bought Andy Cole.
Chill, dudes. Sam has told me it's going to be ok.
well if we brought him to carrighton, it dosnt seem like they where expecting it.
im hoping very much that he wasn't at carrigton, and woodward is not that naive, and has done his research into how the release clause in Spain actually works,
If it falls through why wouldn't you? Honestly I don't get this Pro-Woodward brigade on this forum.
He isn't a £32m player. I know people are desperate for a better midfield and nobody more so than me. But £32m isn't far off what would be needed to secure the very best midfield talent in the world (In theory). Herrera isn't in that bracket from the games I've watched.
We may be currently in technical breach of contract. Not because he's on holiday in Manchester, visiting the club he loves
but because he's had a medical with us. Same thing happened with Bayern.It demonstrates to other clubs after their players that they won't take it lying down and will make it as awkward as they can. Sensible from them.The cnuts
What difference does it make to them.
certainly not as negative, but the grammar leaves a lot to be desired.
This place is the newbs. They've been operating an open door policy for months now. As you've probably noticed. The caf has been a cluster-feck all summer.
I just hope those lawyers who should deposit the money through spanish authorities wont be those 3 amigos.
They know it's happening. If anything all they are doing is delaying payment for themselves
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They know we incur up to 15m tax charges and they are obviously using this to their advantage. We could pay them 10m more on top of the 36 offered and still be 5m better off if we don't force the deal through by activating the release clause.The cnuts
What difference does it make to them.
We aren't going to get the worlds best due to the calamity of Moyes and Woodward last season. We have to hope Herrera continues his progression, otherwise we'll be scratching around hoping for someone else half way decent.
Rather then piss taking on twitter, I would imagine they would be calling their lawyers and we'd be in serious trouble if we didn't have permission...
I would also expect them to declare the player had no permission to head to United.
In what way is us paying tax beneficial to Bilbao?
I thought we did pay the buy out clause? Is he referring to tax?
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