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2016-17 Performances


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The guy has been immense this game. I still think he will not be effective in some of the coming games since he is quite inconsistent. So I hope Mourinho, unlike LvG, doesn't put him on bench after one-two under-par performances. The guy needs to play regularly.
That's a myth. The only inconsistent thing about him is his playing time. The discontinuous minutes he got last season was the reason for his bad performances. It's time for him to stay in the 1st team for a while
 
I just want him to get a good run in the side. If he has an iffy game, which he will, give him more time. He could be a really crucial player in the team if we finally afford him the luxury of regular games.

Agreed, under Van Gaal he could play suberb for five games and the second he had a sub par performance he was sent straight back to the doghouse. Infurating really when a certain someone could be as shite as he wanted and be guaranteed to start every game
 
Excellent today. Good passing and won the ball well. Covered ground well
 
I'm not sure if he is good enough to be starting for us all the time going forward but he at least has the character to play for the club, unlike some on the books.
 
That's a myth. The only inconsistent thing about him is his playing time. The discontinuous minutes he got last season was the reason for his bad performances. It's time for him to stay in the 1st team for a while
It is not a myth according to my observation. His passing is erratic at times and he doesn't have a great range on him. Of course, paired up with a good player he can do a great job but again, if Pogba has a bad day, Herrera will suffer. I said he might go missing because I don't expect United to carry on in the same vain and expect some of the upcoming matches to really test this midfield pairing.
I cannot completely refute your argument either. We really haven't seen him being completely trusted by any manager and he gets snubbed to the bench pretty quickly. I believe that is because managers watch him in training and know his limitations. But yeah, I would love for him to be given extended run in a role that suits him and maybe he will step up. He had a fantastic game today, no doubt. Long may it continue.
 
Another good performance, he covered his back 4 well and was aggressive in his tackling. I don't think you get the best from him as a holder but he can do a job there.
 
Exactly the kind of performance we all knew he was capable of and hoped to see when he first arrived at Old Trafford. This is the Herrera I love. Hope he gets a continuous run of games now to solidify this form.
 
Putting together a good run of performances which have hopefully consolidated his place as a starter. Adjusted really well to the DM role he is playing and is the only midfielder we have seen (other than Carrick in his brief playing time) offer some genuine positional discipline this season.

With all the talent and flair we have in the team we need a a bit of structure and that is something that Fellaini hasn't offered despite his relatively good performances. Herrera looks to be part of the solution right now.
 
Herrera was brilliant - again.

Would player him over Felliani every week. He worked really well with Pogba
 
As somebody said in the previous pages, him and pogba need to be two of three (with somebody ahead or behind them depending on the game).

He just needs to start. Also nice to see him taking shots which he seemed to be punished for under LVG.
Also seemed to be punished for pressing opposition as well but he brings a good energy and calmness on the ball as he can use both feet.
 
It is not a myth according to my observation. His passing is erratic at times and he doesn't have a great range on him. Of course, paired up with a good player he can do a great job but again, if Pogba has a bad day, Herrera will suffer.

I think the biggest issue is how to eliminate and minimise those instances and it goes back to having a 3 man midfield.

Give Pogba the platform to create and control midfield higher up the pitch. Let Herrera harry and contribute with his pressing and passing all over the pitch. Let someone else mop up behind them. In the tight games against good midfields, I think the no.10 position (Mata, Miki and Rooney) should be 'sacrificed' for Pogba. Play Rashford and Miki either side of Zlatan for those games.

Right now Herrera basically is doing his best Matic impression for Mourinho and doing it well. It ended well for that one season but long term it's not good (at the top level).
 
I like Herrera but he must be a bit more positive at times. When he is facing our own goal he always passes backwards. He needs to get better with checking behind him and turning quickly so he can pass forwards instead.

It's not so bad with blind at CB but smalling and bailly both just pass it backwards to de gea half the time too.

Apart from that though he had a good game. Nothing too flash but kept the ball moving, won plenty of challenges and had lots of energy.
 
I think he's getting more and more confidence and being allowed to play his natural game. The LVG cobwebs are still there occasionally, but his energy and industry is unquestionable. I reckon he's going to become a really vital player for us as the season goes on.
 
I like Herrera but he must be a bit more positive at times. When he is facing our own goal he always passes backwards. He needs to get better with checking behind him and turning quickly so he can pass forwards instead.

It's not so bad with blind at CB but smalling and bailly both just pass it backwards to de gea half the time too.

Apart from that though he had a good game. Nothing too flash but kept the ball moving, won plenty of challenges and had lots of energy.

Yeah he could be more progressive, but plays the safe option.

Still, I think a holding role is his best position.
 
From now he should be a starter imo.
I agree. He's earned the right to get a run of games. He was very good again today, and can do so much that Fellaini simply can't.
 
Best partner for Pogba we've got, I suspect Carrick would be a good one too but he's short term now, and perfect off the bench, Fellaini and Schneiderlin fighting it out for the back up to the back up.
 
As somebody said in the previous pages, him and pogba need to be two of three (with somebody ahead or behind them depending on the game).

He just needs to start. Also nice to see him taking shots which he seemed to be punished for under LVG.
Also seemed to be punished for pressing opposition as well but he brings a good energy and calmness on the ball as he can use both feet.
Yeah, LvG was really the worst player possible for Herrera to be managed by. Pretty sure he was a Moyes buy as LvG didn't like him from the start.
 
Yeah, LvG was really the worst player possible for Herrera to be managed by. Pretty sure he was a Moyes buy as LvG didn't like him from the start.
Herrera thrives in frantic, end to end battles where his mobility, sharp touch first touch and agility really excells, pretty much the anathema to lvg who demanded stability.
Mourinho will be much fonder of Hererra's skill set.
 
This was my post back in February.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/current-opinions-on-herrera.414280/page-4#post-18744734

I'm gonna make an educated guess here and that if we have a new manager next season (ANY manager), Herrera will be an absolute mainstay and important player in our team.

He's simply too good (relatively speaking) with all the right tools (mentally, ability and physically) to not click with a manager that would give him and other players more freedom (again pretty much anyone bar LVG at this point).

I've also said he will be one of Mourinho's important players and he will show good-to-world class form. One poster called me out it.

Not saying I'm right and it's way too soon to judge anything and I'm definitely bias/over reaching but I believe in Herrera's qualities.
 
Match of the Day analysis for Rashford's goal:

 
Weird one but does anybody else see good leadership qualities in Herrera and think he could be a manager one day? Aparantley he is obsessed with football and never stops talking about it. I see him as a manager one day
 
I like Herrera but he must be a bit more positive at times. When he is facing our own goal he always passes backwards. He needs to get better with checking behind him and turning quickly so he can pass forwards instead.

It's not so bad with blind at CB but smalling and bailly both just pass it backwards to de gea half the time too.

Apart from that though he had a good game. Nothing too flash but kept the ball moving, won plenty of challenges and had lots of energy.

To be fair, Herrera has shown that he can be progressive in the past, especially if Mata is in the team. I think Mourinho likes Herrera to tick things along rather than get forward while using his energy to screen the back four. With Pogba and Mata playing as 2 forward midfielders I don't see any problem with this.
 
I've noticed a number of blooming on field partnerships in the team (like Pogba - Lingard for example) but what surprises me most is how easily Herrera forms partnerships with basically anyone he plays with. He has a natural charisma to his game that makes it easier for people to trust him.
 
I like Herrera but he must be a bit more positive at times. When he is facing our own goal he always passes backwards. He needs to get better with checking behind him and turning quickly so he can pass forwards instead.

It's not so bad with blind at CB but smalling and bailly both just pass it backwards to de gea half the time too.

Apart from that though he had a good game. Nothing too flash but kept the ball moving, won plenty of challenges and had lots of energy.
His passing range is not so good though. Well, more like not consistent like some of the best passers in our team. So I think he went for safer options than giving the balls too often away when he tries to pass and fails.

I hope he can improve on it a bit and he would be a very good player for dm role. So much energy and smart player too.
 
He is an infinitely better footballer than Fellaini. Should be starting every week.
 
Herrera and Pogba should always start alongside an attacking midfielder against 'easier' teams and someone like Carrick or Blind behind them when it's more difficult and we need an extra man.

Never with Fellaini though.

Hard to argue with that.
 
Agreed. Pogba should push up to no. 10 when we bring Blind as the extra defensive midfielder against tougher teams. Lingard was the weak link that game despite his 1 good assist. Replace him with Mata on the wing as a roaming playmaker and you have a lot of creative players. When we play weaker opponents leave Blind on the bench and bring Mhki as the no.10. Having creative players like Mhki, Mata, Herrera, and Pogba together on the pitch should allow us to massively outscore any opponent.

While physical back 4 in Shaw, Smalling, Bailly, and Valencia should be able to provide great cover for our risky midfield setup. Someone needs to teach Smalling/Bailly that while one person is the defensive stopper, the other player needs to position themselves as cover. Otherwise they both tend to rush towards they ball and leave space.

Hard to argue with that.
 
Love that he has broke in to the first team...... but just can't see him been a success as defensive midfielder all his best qualities are going forward.

Just can't get my head round why we don't go 433 and play Blind behind him and Pogba, would solve all our problems.
 
Herrera and Pogba should always start alongside an attacking midfielder against 'easier' teams and someone like Carrick or Blind behind them when it's more difficult and we need an extra man.

Never with Fellaini though.

Fellaini will always have a role to play against the more physical and taller sides. I won't be surprised to see him against stoke.
 
Fellaini will always have a role to play against the more physical and taller sides. I won't be surprised to see him against stoke.
I don't see the point to be fair. On Smalling, Bailly, Pogba and Zlatan we have enough physical players.

Agree that Pogba + Herrera + Mata/Miki for the easier matches and Carrick + Pogba + Herrera for the more difficult matches is the way to go forward.
 
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