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2 Man Midfield said:
--------Blind--------
---Fellaini-Herrera-
----Rooney---------
-------------Di Maria
------Van Persie---

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I'd rather:

DDG
Rafael - Who Gives a Shit - Rojo - Shaw

Blind
Herrera - Fellaini - Di Maria
Rooney
Falcao​
 
Pexbo said:
I'd rather:

DDG
Rafael - Who Gives a Shit - Rojo - Shaw

Blind
Herrera - Fellaini - Di Maria
Rooney
Falcao​
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Yeah, that's my ideal formation also. Januzaj replacing Fellaini against the minnows/lesser physical teams, and Rooney doing all the dirty work for Falcao to leave him in all the vacated forward positions. Di Maria playing more central, moving from in to out. I really hope we see it at some point.
 
So has he just lost his place or is LvG trying to give him until after the International break to fully recover?
 
yes he lost his place. Van Gaal said in the pre match interview that he had decisions to make, not just Rooney in for Mata, but also Herrera or Fellaini and he chose Fellaini. He wouldnt be on the bench if he wasnt fit, thats his 2nd game in a row now. I am a bit disappointed and annoyed by the lack of his playing time.
 
Please get him back in the team ASAP. He was brilliant up until the injury, and is a vastly superior to Fellaini.
 
Devil may care said:
So has he just lost his place or is LvG trying to give him until after the International break to fully recover?
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Bit of both. No way was he fully fit against West Brom and just played really poorly and his injury clearly affected him. Doubt he was fully fit the week after, but with Fellaini's sub appearance being so good, and then doing well vs Chelsea I think he just won the spot for this game. Reckon Herrera will come back in next week as we're home against a smaller team, so I think we might go back to the diamond.
 
bosnian_red said:
Bit of both. No way was he fully fit against West Brom and just played really poorly and his injury clearly affected him. Doubt he was fully fit the week after, but with Fellaini's sub appearance being so good, and then doing well vs Chelsea I think he just won the spot for this game. Reckon Herrera will come back in next week as we're home against a smaller team, so I think we might go back to the diamond.
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I hope you're right, he started really well for us and I'd hate to see him marginalized as being too lightweight.
 
Sam said:
Please get him back in the team ASAP. He was brilliant up until the injury, and is a vastly superior to Fellaini.
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I hope he comes in for Fellaini and we play ADM also in midfield again.

--------Blind-----------
Herrera-------ADM
 
Escobar said:
I hope he comes in for Fellaini and we play ADM also in midfield again.

--------Blind-----------
Herrera-------ADM
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Yeah I agree with this, We cannot waste Di Maria out wide any longer, And while I believe Fellaini has been very good the last 3 games, Now we are against teams in which we can take the game to them and not vice versa, Therefore Fellaini won't be needed as much
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Yeah I agree with this, We cannot waste Di Maria out wide any longer, And while I believe Fellaini has been very good the last 3 games, Now we are against teams in which we can take the game to them and not vice versa, Therefore Fellaini won't be needed as much
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Let's hope LVG sees it like that as well. Now we need Herrera's creativity and drive and not Fellaini hussling other key players. ADM coming from deep and be a bit more central hopefully brings out the best of him again
 
He was absolute dog shit against Wes Brom but most of us put this down to his ribs bothering him. I did anyway.

However, it's possible that Van Gaal was assured (by the player and our medical staff) that he was absolutely 100% going into that game. If so, you can see why the manager might be reluctant to start him again. Was a really woeful 45 minutes of football.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was absolute dog shit against Wes Brom but most of us put this down to his ribs bothering him. I did anyway.

However, it's possible that Van Gaal was assured (by the player and our medical staff) that he was absolutely 100% going into that game. If so, you can see why the manager might be reluctant to start him again. Was a really woeful 45 minutes of football.
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I think his rib was nearly ready, but they put that corset on him which actually irritated the injury. He was great against QPR, Leicester ( except for the fact he and the rest of them lost focus) and West Ham until he had to go off. He won't be the first player to say he is ready to play when maybe he wasn't entirely. Those three games we were great as an attacking force. However we do need a Strootman type player in there as well.
 
People have been saying that his best games for Bilbao were against the big teams, Barca etc. What position did he play in those games? Surely you would have to be capable of looking after yourself in those games?
 
DomesticTadpole said:
I think his rib was nearly ready, but they put that corset on him which actually irritated the injury. He was great against QPR, Leicester ( except for the fact he and the rest of them lost focus) and West Ham until he had to go off. He won't be the first player to say he is ready to play when maybe he wasn't entirely. Those three games we were great as an attacking force. However we do need a Strootman type player in there as well.
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None of us have any idea what state his rib was going into that game, apart from Louis Van Gaal and Ander Hererra.
 
He was really poor against WBA because of his injury. But he's a dynamic midfielder, someone who follow the attack, and he links well the defense with the attack. Hoppefully he will be back against Palace at home in a more attacking game.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
None of us have any idea what state his rib was going into that game, apart from Louis Van Gaal and Ander Hererra.
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We don't, but tbh I thought bringing him back against WBA was a bit soon. Maybe if he has said he was fit and actually aggravated it has put his recovery back. I know he has been on the bench, but we aren't overloaded with options for the bench, apart from kids. I wouldn't want too many kids against Chelsea or City. We will have to wait to see if we are going to go more attacking against Palace and I actually think Herrera's game will suit the Arsenal game rather than Fellaini.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
I think his rib was nearly ready, but they put that corset on him which actually irritated the injury. He was great against QPR, Leicester ( except for the fact he and the rest of them lost focus) and West Ham until he had to go off. He won't be the first player to say he is ready to play when maybe he wasn't entirely. Those three games we were great as an attacking force. However we do need a Strootman type player in there as well.
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I think @Pogue Mahone is right that Van Gaal was probably told by the player/staff that Herrera was capable of playing, only to be rewarded with a very bad showing at West Brom. Lets face it, the original diagnosis was six weeks out. To play two weeks later was a bit crazy. Herrera didn't put in a single slide tackle at West Brom, and he loves a tackle. Clearly, he didn't want to stretch his midsection and was playing within himself. I respect him for breaking his rib in the first half at West Brom and playing on. However, we should only bring him back if he can give 100 per cent. Another half arsed performance won't help us.
 
Sam said:
If he's not fit then why's he on the bench?
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he's probably partially fit and would get chucked on in a disaster. we've had players on the bench before who clearly aren't/weren't fit

surely common sense would say that a cracked rib wont fully be ok in less than 4 weeks.
 
golden_blunder said:
he's probably partially fit and would get chucked on in a disaster. we've had players on the bench before who clearly aren't/weren't fit

surely common sense would say that a cracked rib wont fully be ok in less than 4 weeks.
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I really hope thats the case tbh, and he hasn't just been dropped for Fellaini. That would be a horrible thought.
 
Pexbo said:
I'd rather:

DDG
Rafael - Who Gives a Shit - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Herrera - Fellaini - Di Maria
Rooney
Falcao​
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That would be close to my perfect team. Just one change..rather than Rooney behind Falcao, I would play Mata behind Rooney. All you need to watch is Mata playing behind Drogba to see what he is capable off. Playing him deeper or wider is not effective as we've seen it.

DDG
Rafael - Who Gives a Shit - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Herrera - Fellaini - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney
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We know what Rooney is capable of if asked to be disciplined upfront. For all his work rate he is not a pure playmaker and by letting him assume that role, we are only wasting a goal machine Rooney.
 
The midfield has looked more solid with Fellaini in there but it is not 100% due to Herrera's absence. Di Maria moving out wide has made the midfield more compact too.

I miss Herrera and would have him in the side again once he is fully fit.
 
Fellaini hasn't been bad when called upon at all. Cracked ribs certainly hinder movement, something that is rather integral in midfield, if not everywhere on the football pitch. I don't think he should have even been on the bench..let him recover totally. He's a great player and great signing certainly one with a very positive pro-team attitude.
 
I'd be interested to see him in a midfield with Fellaini personally. But with Rooney in there or Di Maria moving back in it seems it is one or the other.
 
Him and Rooney would be a very interesting pair. Either they would be absolute garbage for being too similar or they'd be absolutely brilliant. Both has the energy and aggressiveness to make life difficult for the opponents in those areas.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Him and Rooney would be a very interesting pair. Either they would be absolute garbage for being too similar or they'd be absolutely brilliant. Both has the energy and aggressiveness to make life difficult for the opponents in those areas.
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I still don't think Rooney can do well in midfield. He's just too rigid when playing that role and doesn't have the mentality of a midfield at all. He clearly shows his limitations in midfield given how often he goes for a diagonal pass to the right and doesn't have the vision in midfield to spot other passes. He also doesn't have the close control to maintain possession whilst under pressure, something that even Mata has even if he isn't that good of a midfielder.

I believe Herrera and Fellaini will be a good partnership because Fellaini can play his game whilst Herrera's discipline and intelligence means that we won't be too open in midfield and still maintain aggression in it. We've badly missed someone who can dictate play from midfield, and Herrera is the missing piece of the puzzle. Against West Brom, Mata played as the dictator whilst Herrera played higher up the pitch. Since then, we haven't had a midfield dictator in our team. For this reason, regardless of how we set up, I really wish that Herrera returns.
 
Natener said:
Just give him a call mate, or send some flowers. I'm sure he'll come round and take you back.

we do miss him much
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Well it could be awkward because I have already cooked Spanish for Juan.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
DDG
Rafael - Who Gives a Shit - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Herrera - Fellaini - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney
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We know what Rooney is capable of if asked to be disciplined upfront. For all his work rate he is not a pure playmaker and by letting him assume that role, we are only wasting a goal machine Rooney.
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Since he seems to run out of steam more often, I'd like to see Di Maria runs havoc in attack, (almost) completely free of defensive duty.

DDG
Rafael - McNair - Smalling - Shaw
Carrick
Herrera - Fellaini - Blind
Di Maria
Rooney
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I think that formation will also give more freedom to Herrera to join attack, and Carrick does less leg work but more playmaking. On paper, that team look much better than Arsenal. Feck me, with better CBs, that team could compete with the bests out there.
 
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