Sounds a bit like that, unless he was injured in training.
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Sounds a bit like that, unless he was injured in training.
Said this last week and think it was noticeable how much more solid we looked with Fellaini playing that role today. He's definitely a better player than Fellaini in either position either advanced or defensively, but his ability to perform a B2B role is hampered by poor game awareness. Would like to see how a Blind-Herrera-Carrick(Fellaini) midfield would look.
I was a bit pissed off that he didn't come in for Fellaini when Mata was subbed off for Wilson, I thought that we lacked creativity through the middle because neither ADM nor Januzaj provided it and we kept crossing but in the end Fellaini helped us get the point and Herrera is rested for City so he can heal properly. Can't complain.
We look so much better with Fellaini in the team . Herrera is not imposing enough yet for big games. Herrera will be a great option when we are at home to Burnley etc ....but there's not a chance that Herrera is getting back into the team ahead of Fellaini in big games for the forseeable future
I doubt that. Fellaini has been good in the last couple of games but Herrera was one of our best players before he got injured. Also Herrera played well against Barcelona a number of times so he certainly doesn't struggle in the big games...
I think it will depend as you say on the type of team. He is now getting chance for his rib to heal properly. He will get plenty of chances.
No way would I judge Herrera on the WBA game, he shouldn't have played that match whatsoever.
How do you come to that stupid conclusion when he hasn't played a big game yet?
Ahead of Mata maybe? And yes he is better then Fellaini, maybe you forget how good he can be defensively. In this game LVG chosed Fellaini because of multiple reasons (they have strength, i think Herrera is not 100% fit,...) but i think he will be in the starting lineup for almost every game when he will be fit.
One off big games? I could definitely see Fellaini being picked for a few depending on whatever way we plan on setting up. I'd be surprised if it's Herrera that gets displaced though.
There's no way Fellaini should be in the team over Herrera generally though, he simply doesn't offer as much.
I want to see him in the number 10 role he's not as silky as Mata but he makes up for it with a superior work ethic.
Would be a good idea vs City actually.
But then can't see it happening if both Rooney and Falcao are back though.
I dont think it will happen for the City game but in the long haul he could be our best option in that role.
Doesn't give enough in terms of Assists/Goals output probably. I'd say he would be a good option there for bigger games though to give more control and defensive protection.
I actually think he has a good eye for the pass and could chip in a few goals hes on equal footing with Mata this season (2 goals, 1 assist) and id like to see him get a chance since Mata completely blew it.
Considering Herrera has yet to play in a traditional big game then how on earth do you come to that conclusion? Herrera has been and is considerably better than Fellaini. Personally, I'd play him ahead of Mata next week, to beef up the midfield.
Kind of like Oscar, would have been ideal today in the role Mata had which was deeper than we have been playing our AM.
Whilst I love the fact that we have three top strikers we must always look to play the most solid side, both on and off the ball. Against City a trio of Fellaini, Blind and Herrera is primed to stand toe to toe with City's midfield. We should be looking to get the best out of the team not pleasing the big names. If they have to compete for two places or one then so be it and whoever loses out should be wary of the door hitting them on the way out. We have a weak defence and we should be looking to play a midfield that shields that defence better and gives us a chance.
Personally I would go with
--------Blind---Fellaini-----
------------Herrera----------
--Rooney----RVP----ADM--
under no circumstances should we be surrendering the midfield to them nor isolating Blind against Toure and Silva. I know Rooney is not that effective outwide but I think we need Herrera's tenacity in the middle more.
Can't believe I'm saying this but I think Fellaini should keep his spot (at least until Valencia returns), and I think Herrera should now replace Mata.
This, but then I also want Rooney and Falcao in, and then Januzaj I thought did well today and should maybe keep his spot. So really I'm not sure who will miss out. One of the 3 strikers, Mata and Januzaj is my guess.
So is he fit again? I want to see him play against City, i dont care if he displaces Mata or Fellaini, i just love watching him play.
I agree with this. His pressure at number 10 would definitely be useful, and his play going forward has been more ambitious than Mata's this year. With Rooney back though there's no hope I'd have thought.
If Rooney isn’t fit then Herrera should replace Mata, he would work much better in the formation as he is more adept at moving between the number 10 and a more orthodox midfield position and in theory him and Fellaini could then both switch between those roles. I think he could start anyway even if Rooney replaces Mata, wouldn’t be surprised to see him replace Januzaj and play fairly narrow on the right hand side of midfield.
Herrera, Fellaini and blind in the middle with Rooney ahead and Di Maria operating in a free-ish Robben type role from the WC would be interesting to see.
Personally, I'd like to see Hererra and Rooney both start, with Mata and RvP on the bench.
Won't happen though. More's the pity.
No way he can drop RvP now. The real question is whether he'll play Rooney and Falcao alongside him, which I believe would be a mistake, because although they've looked good together, it really fecks us over defensively.
I expect we'll see pretty much the same team as Monday only Rooney in for Mata.
Yeah, we let in two silly goals against West Brom but generally the defending in our last two games has been dramatically improved compared to the previous games. You can't ignore the fact that this coincides with Falcao and Rooney both being unavailable for selection. Playing a lone striker against Chelsea and matching them up in midfield must have been a big factor in us dominating posession and conceding relatively few chances.
It concerns me slightly that Van Gaal has stumbled into a solution to our defensive woes, rather than proactively addressing it by having the cojones to leave one or two of his three big name strikers on the bench. He has a reputation for not caring about egos and making tough decisions, so I'd like to see some evidence of this. If he reverts to playing all three of them against City and they steamroll us in midfield it really will be a crushing disappointment. Almost enough for me to bump that "false dawn" thread again...
Ye that is what I am expecting - although plenty of time for half of our team to get injured between now and then
I was suprised that Herrera didnt come in from the bench when we were chasing the game last Sunday though.
It’s a good point, for all the talk about how great our attack is I actually think we can only play 2 of them and trying to shoe horn anymore than that in only weakens our midfield and defence, I was initially under the impression LVG was trying out 3 of them in the team to see if he could make it work and he would eventually revert back to playing with just one up front but we won’t really know until everyone is fit. Mata has played his way out of the team I assume, RVP and Rooney both seem certain starters so will he leave Falcao out, drop RVP or play them all if they are fit, will be interesting to see.
For me Herrera, Di Maria, Blind and based on his most recent showings Fellaini have arguably turned the midfield into the strongest area of the team (still work to do there of course), when you factor in Carrick and Januzaj we now have great options and can compete with any team in the division. When you factor in our short comings in defence I don’t think the big names up front have so far justified their inclusion and in all honesty I don’t think they will, because despite all being very talented they are a bit too similar and one paced. At this moment in time I see more benefit to starting the extra man in midfield rather than an extra striker and I think it would make us a better team going forward as well as defensively.
No chance in hell LVG will start with Rooney, Falcao and RVP. I reckon it will be the same team as vs Chelsea with maybe (just maybe) Falcao instead of RVP, although I doubt that and Rooney instead of Mata.
I certainly hope we wont start with all 3 strikers.
Fellaini and Blind starting with Herrera coming of the bench I think.
I certainly hope we wont start with all 3 strikers.
Fellaini and Blind starting with Herrera coming of the bench I think.
Is he fit to play this weekend? Nobody asked Van Gaal this question today.. I missed LVG's press conference last weekend,so don't know if he has recovered after West Brom..
Fellaini is good when he has a job to do like mark someone out of the game, Fabregas and Toure this weekend or needs to be a target man. Herrera will come when no one needs marking and we're playing fluid football. IMO Herrera would suit the 4231 version of 433 as an interchangeable holding CM. Where both CM can dictate play, dropping deep to collect the ball between the CB's (as he played in the 352 formation) ala Carrick and Scholes. I'd like to see him paired in a CM duo with Carrick or Blind (and if we get him Strootman) with Rooney ahead of them, 2 Winger and a Striker. This is the formation we will settle into, it may not start against Man City but will in the coming games.
--------Blind--------
---Fellaini-Herrera-
----Rooney---------
-------------Di Maria
------Van Persie---
---Fellaini-Herrera-
----Rooney---------
-------------Di Maria
------Van Persie---
We need him back asap. Without him, we dont create enough chances. We play different with him in the team, especially now against Palace, we need players to open them up. Hope LvG finds a place for him in the next game.
--------Blind--------
---Fellaini-Herrera-
----Rooney---------
-------------Di Maria
------Van Persie---
This.
Would much rather him on the right of the 4-1-4-1 than Januzaj at the moment.
--------Blind--------
---Fellaini-Herrera-
----Rooney---------
-------------Di Maria
------Van Persie---
I concur. I think a midfield 3 of Blind, Herrera and Fellaini would dominate most games.
Was expecting him to start today. Is he still injured?
I miss him very much. Our attacking tempo is far too slow without him, only Di Maria seeks to play with the ball at a pace as quick as Ander.
Should be fit to start against Palace, hope he wipes the floor with them. I reckon we'll go back to the diamond then
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