this can't be serious.
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this can't be serious.Exactly it is just shit stirring. We should put reports out about one of their players.
The article says they are waiting for season 2016-17 when Iniesta will be 32 years old to make a move for Ander. Mundo Deportivo makes out as if it has been a long term plan to let the Xavi/Iniesta era pass and then bring in Ander. Mundo Deportivo say Ander's seen more as a less silky more goalscoring Iniesta than Xavi, but that his keep ball skills and ability to pick out the key pass are comparable to the latter's.
This isn't bad either:
"Ander Herrera was the piece that coveted David Moyes to cure anemia"
When we see reports like this, no wonder it is so damn hard to build a special team, when these leeches keep stealing our best players when they start to settle and we never see the true fruits of our labor. We progress with these special players, and we get flawed, like we are seeing with DDG, and ronaldo before
at the idea Herrera should be seen as one of the fruits of our labour. We genuinely did steal him. Bilbao said no and he left anyway.Herrera doesn't strike me as someone that has a burning ambition to return home one day to play for one of the big 2 in Spain.
I think he will be happy enough here and will give us 4-5 years as long as his relationship with the management doesn't change too much.
With De Gea I see things differently. I feel for him returning home one day is important.
I think he will be happy enough here and will give us 4-5 years as long as his relationship with the management doesn't change too much.
With De Gea I see things differently. I feel for him returning home one day is important.
Agreed. I think he wants to build a career here.
She herself looks like Andreas Pereira in a wig
What a family
Shame, Jordan Henderson totally outclassed by Herrera and Silva. 
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...rds/yellow_cards/goals_scored/attack_score#90
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...rds/yellow_cards/goals_scored/attack_score#90
Yeah he kind of hinted at his disappointment with how the smaller clubs are not allowed to thrive in Spain in that large interview he did recently when he spoke of how much he loved the FA cup away games in the early rounds. He seemed to have a great affinity for the football structure and culture in England.
Bit of an unfair comparison, everyone bar Liverpool fans know that Henderson is nowhere close to Herrera and especially Silva.Shame, Jordan Henderson totally outclassed by Herrera and Silva.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...rds/yellow_cards/goals_scored/attack_score#90
We payed a fee, it's not has if he left at 20, Bilbao are one of these stubborn clubs. Funny how no other big club wanted him before
Barcelona can feck off.
He'd be spectacularly wrong for Barca anyway. Jesus, if Fabregas wasn't 'Barcelona enough' for them, Herrera sure as hell wouldn't be. All-action, box-to-box, takes risks and doesn't prioritise possession especially highly. He's nothing like Xavi.
You don't really need stats, eyes are sufficient.It's just nice to have stats prove it.
Barca can feck right off. They stole our trophy in 2011, they're not getting our Ander.
Herrera loves short passing and constant moving, though. He's like Iniesta's pragmatic, goal scoring little brother.
What's Catalan for "go feck yourself"?
And those things are important to Barca, but keeping possession is important to them too, and Herrera is far from being a specialist in that. Remember that Fabregas, who's far more of a typical Spanish/Barcelona midfielder than Herrera in style, didn't fit in because he was too direct.
He suits us. He wouldn't suit them.
By 2016, Louis' philopsohy will be strong in him. Look at the 'progression' from now since the start of the year. He'll be tailored made for Barca by that point. I can't see him leave though. He really does look like he wants to stay for a while.
Van Gaal isn't making him 'more Barcelona-friendly', though. Where is there any evidence of that? He's not become any more of a possession-centric player, he's just changed his style off the ball a little. Don't confuse Van Gaal's 'philosophy' with how Barcelona play either, the two have very little to do with each other. The 'philosophy' isn't a specific way of playing, it's just Van Gaal's way of analysing the game and training players. Van Gaal's teams have played a wide range of strategies, styles and formations over the years.
I could see why Barcelona have interest in Ander, whenever i watch him play my thoughts goes "why didn't barcelona sign this lad".
He is a big fan of Messi and Iniesta himself, i don't know if he would consider a move there, but him being Spanish and all i could see it being a difficult choice.
He is a big fan of Messi and Iniesta himself, i don't know if he would consider a move there, but him being Spanish and all i could see it being a difficult choice.
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Van Gaal wants him to play with his mind, not instinct. He wants him to create space, isolate gaps through possession and tire the opponents. Many aspects of van Gaal's philosophy directly correlate with Barcelona's identity of football. You'd be foolish to think otherwise. You're taking Barcelona's style to the extreme also. With Enrique as coach and players such as Suarez, Neymar, and Rakitic frequent players in the side alongside Xavi weaning out, Barcelona play a more direct brand of football, with less emphasis (still enough, of course) on the intricaces on possession. The article seems to suggest also through Herrera they would phase out Xavi's and Iniesta's era and bring in the new prototype of Herrera who is almost a halfway house between the possession dominant and the all out direct route.
To be fair, in '09 or '11 neither of those cups were stolen. Just comprehensively taken.
Pretty sure barca tried signing him loads of times before, or were interested at least. They just weren't willing to do the buy out clause
If they wanted him so bad they would have payed the buyout clause. The guy has just arrived here, and already there is this talk, which is mad
If they were unwilling to pay his buyout clause, then what the hell to they think they would pay to buy him off us. If he progresses as he is then it will be a lot more than his buyout. Also how much would you charge to buy a Xavi/Iniesta replacement. He will be 27 then. You would have thought they would have bought him younger and groomed him into the player they want.
Barcelona and Real Madrid tend to treat La Liga players and in particular the Spanish U21 players as "theirs" and merely on extended loan to other clubs. Barcelona just haven't (hadn't?) completely accepted the idea that they might then have to pay full market value for them.
Real Madrid took Isco and Illarra a little earlier than normal and paid their valuations. Barca weren't willing to do that to get Javi Martinez, despite needing a central defender, so buying an expensive player like Herrera as a contingency or for the future certainly wasn't their style.
To be fair, looking back at the Herrera transfer thread on here (2013 and 2014) a lot of people were saying that 15-20m would be reasonable, £25m if pushed and Barcelona had the same opinion. If they're debating it again now - good, it means he's playing well. It would be more surprising if they weren't.
However, he's our player and the more games he plays, the more he looks like the player I hoped he was - a proper United player.
Real Madrid took Isco and Illarra a little earlier than normal and paid their valuations. Barca weren't willing to do that to get Javi Martinez, despite needing a central defender, so buying an expensive player like Herrera as a contingency or for the future certainly wasn't their style.
To be fair, looking back at the Herrera transfer thread on here (2013 and 2014) a lot of people were saying that 15-20m would be reasonable, £25m if pushed and Barcelona had the same opinion. If they're debating it again now - good, it means he's playing well. It would be more surprising if they weren't.
However, he's our player and the more games he plays, the more he looks like the player I hoped he was - a proper United player.
In other words they are cheapskates where Spanish players are concerned. Ander seems like someone who would like to stay here tbh and gain legendary status here. I would not want to be the player who replaces Xavi/Iniesta, if you don't live up to their standards it could finish your career.
You just know him and Mata have some wonderful games of Tennis in the summer.
Doubt anyone else at United joins them though, so it's probably just a case of Juan on Juan...
I believe Real and Barca dislike triggering release clauses because of the tax liability they incur on the transfers. I read somewhere that when a Spanish club triggers a buyout clause for a Spanish player it works differently to when a foreign club does it. Usually the big two use media pressure to beat down the selling club so they will negotiate a price. However, its different with Bilbao because no matter what they can never find Basques of similar quality and so they don't ever negotiate. Guess Barca are going to try and wait until Herrera is in the last two years of his deal at United and then try and make the deal happen.
If he is essential to how we play, then we should just tell them to get lost. Or charge them an extremely astronomical price. Ander is too nice a lad to play for that bunch of tossers.
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