He's our best central midfielder, imo.
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I'll be absolutely fuming if he finds himself on the bench against Leicester.
He will though.
He will though.
I think Fellaini started instead of him because he had a very good cameo in the QPR game and his height was needed in set pieces. Obvious decision by LVG.
Herrera should be ahead in the picking order after last night, I think he will start if we will play diamond vs Leicester.
Herrera should be ahead in the picking order after last night, I think he will start if we will play diamond vs Leicester.
i agree , after DDG he'd be the first name on my team sheet. so actually the 2nd player on my team sheet.
GIF #3 just sums us up. Bereft of confidence, it won't be long before all action Ander is affected.
Don't give yourself false hope, of course Herrera's going to be on the bench for the next game (if he even makes the squad!) Rather than getting angry, start preparing yourself for the disappointment from now.
I will be surprised if Ander plays again for awhile. Mata and Rooney are both clearly ahead of him in Van Gaal's mind, as seemingly is Fellaini. When you factor in Di Maria, Herrera is fifth choice centre midfielder competing for a maximum of three spots. Do not expect to see him play for United any time soon.
It's really puzzling as to why Herrera is being overlooked. You can't help but feel it must be something personal between him and Van Gaal. He was rumoured to have been enjoying off-field activities a bit, was he not? Rightly or wrongly, Van Gaal seems like the type of manager who is perfectly willing to make an example of a player if their attitude isn't upto scratch in his opinion.
Last night on a tight pitch with Cambridge pressing our midfielders like rabid dogs, we really needed Herrera's close control and one-touch passing as opposed to Fellaini's lumbering elbow-wielding. It's concerning that Van Gaal apparently couldn't see that until the 70th minute...
Last night on a tight pitch with Cambridge pressing our midfielders like rabid dogs, we really needed Herrera's close control and one-touch passing as opposed to Fellaini's lumbering elbow-wielding. It's concerning that Van Gaal apparently couldn't see that until the 70th minute...
LvG and George Best would have got on well then.
Same, I don't rate him half as much as others on here do but he should definitely start against Leicester.
I'd like to see that too, with Mata and Di Maria coming in from the wings. It'd probably be our best team in terms of technical ability.
You just know we'll try to shoehorn three strikers in as its a poor team we are playing and we are home. So frustrating.
If he mentions long balls and physicality again I will scream.
He is put under much more scrutiny than Fellaini and Mata this season in that his good performances are blown out of proportion but also any of his bad moments, be it half a game or 15 minutes or a single bad touch are always noted by top fans who show him no affection because everyone else likes him. It's hard to find the middle ground with Herrera, he is a divisive playerm
One thing that I find incredible is that there seems to be a direct correlation between us playing good football, and Herrera being on the pitch. Everytime he comes on, our football just seems to go up a level. The passing is quicker, the link up better, lots more movement, more quick incisive passing etc.
What I don't understand is how one player (who isn't exactly world class) can make such a difference? Its so frustrating as a fan, because its that kind of football which is great to watch.
What I don't understand is how one player (who isn't exactly world class) can make such a difference? Its so frustrating as a fan, because its that kind of football which is great to watch.
I'm done, absolutely shocking management by LVG 
How he doesn't start games I'll never fecking know!
How he doesn't start games I'll never fecking know!Agreed. It's no coincidence we play our best football when he's on the pitch such a clever player. He has great passing ability and is a decent tackler too. Not sure why he doesn't get played.
Play this man, he's a genius!
Him and Mata need to be in the team together. Our forward play will instantly improve.
Rafael as well. Nobody can link up with Valencia.
You are right, if only Rafael could stay fit, that's frustrating, he was good with Herrera. Well, everyone is good with Herrera
Mata/Herrera/Di Maria/Rooney
Surely a team with those 4 in it would play some great football?
He's the ghost of Kagawa. An agenda poster's wet dream.
I still think he lets people run off him way to easily, to me where Fellaini has given us something this season is as a physical target that can hold the ball and releive pressure in games when we are getting pressed.
This is where LvG needs to be the take no shit manager his reputation says he is, the team is bigger than the individual is his mantra and he's on about balance all the time, yet he keeps picking unbalanced line-ups.
Get the feeling that he may be shown the door if LvG gets who he wants in the summer.
Hoofball is a genuine tactic this season and Fellaini is the only one who can do it whereas Rooney and Mata can do the job of Herrera. Maybe that's the reason he's so low in the pecking order?
Yeah, I think he'll be back in Spain within a year or two.
Only we'd do something that stupid, so it does make sense.
#subsAnderPlusSix
IMO if he doesn't get any starts between now and March it will be clear he's not in van Gaal's plans. A part of me still hopes he eventually wins a place in the first team because I reckon he has great potential but that's just a dim hope.
I don't think LVG likes him.
Personally I always think we look a much better team when he's on the pitch.
He passes quickly, moves around and creates space all the time, can transition quickly both ways and ups the tempo in our game.
All elements that's sorely lacking if we're going to break teams down in LVG's preferred possession style - all elements none of our other midfielders really bring to the table. Fellaini's basically the polar opposite in terms of style.
Personally I always think we look a much better team when he's on the pitch.
He passes quickly, moves around and creates space all the time, can transition quickly both ways and ups the tempo in our game.
All elements that's sorely lacking if we're going to break teams down in LVG's preferred possession style - all elements none of our other midfielders really bring to the table. Fellaini's basically the polar opposite in terms of style.
I dont think it's as simple as van Gaal not liking him, I think he just doesn't trust him not to expose our shite defence and opts for players who hold on to the ball better or offer more protection. Hopefully when he upgrades the defence he will take the shackles off and Di Maria and Herrera will return to the midfield.
Fellaini doesn't excactly offer much more protection at the right hand side of the diamond. Neither Januzaj on the left.
Rooney/Mata offer less protection than Herrera yet they've both been picked ahead of him in midfield lately.
And if LVG's worried about the balance - why not Carrick/Blind deep, with Di Maria/Rooney/Herrera behind RvP or Falcao? Or Di Maria/Mata/Herrera in behind Rooney? A 4-2-3-1?
If balance is the problem I'd flog one of the strikers that isn't performing either way and play an extra midfielder - solving two problems with one stroke.
It's just baffling that he's so out of favour despite largely giving good/very good performances.
I'm not buying that for a second. Our defence is more than good enough for Cambridge and 90% of the teams in our league. Some are going OTT with their criticism of our defenders to explain away some of LVGs decisions.
If, as expected, van Gaal targets Strootman and we sign him, how exactly does Herrera fit in?
Herrera will only prosper in a 3 men midfield backed by a DM (Blind) and a tough tackling brute (Fellaini). Unfortunately that would mean LVG love child RVP or Rooney (the latter deserve to be in the team) out.
Fellaini isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, a tough tackling brute.
For the record I think a midfield three of Carrick/Di Maria/Herrera would work fine against most teams.
Too light weight. Fellaini gives us balance whether we like it or not.
And Jeez who would prefer a 34 year old Carrick to Blind?
I bought this seasons shirt with Herrera on the back, so I hope not
So Carrick/Di Maria/Herrera is too light weight - and you'd replace Carrick with Blind??
You see, I don't agree Fellaini gives us balance. Because despite his sheer size, he's not particularly tough in the tackle and he can't move his legs. It's too easy to overrun us when he's on the pitch.
Fellaini also drags our tempo down because he doesn't move into space well and takes too long on the ball.
I don't think he will. I think that ship has sailed. I think a beast of a defensive midfielder is likely with Carrick being phased out due to his age and Blind being the only other option.
Yeah, it may have sailed. That's true.
But (and I may be wrong to assume this) I'd assume Strootman fits his profile for a box to box midfielder as well as anyone. It's that type of midfielder he's really after.
Bearing in mind Rooney will almost certainly start and that van Gaal doesn't see him as a striker or wide man, I'd guess the plan is either 433 with Rooney, Blind plus one, or 3412 with Rooney in the hole and Blind plus one. My hunch is that he's after someone with a different skill set to Herrera.
I see where you're coming from with the defence, but I'll be surprised if Herrera moves up the pecking order during the summer.
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