Yeah it was for the celebration, utterly ridiculous decision. Hopefully it doesn't screw us over in the future somehow.
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Outside of the goal he was alright. Could've made better decisions with the ball, certainly. I also don't understand why he didn't pass to McNair late in the game when he had at least two open runs on the wing and could've shot or at least put in a cross.
He didn't jump into the fans or anything. Absolutely nuts.
I don't get what was wrong with the celebration. He didn't leave the field of play. He wasn't goading infront of the opposing fans. Daft decision.
Decent game from Herrera after another spell off the team, but he looked quite sloppy in possession. His passing was pretty good, and he made us play with pace and drive, but he's often unaware of his surrounding when on the ball. It's as if he's still adjusting to the pace and aggression of the English game. English teams will not give him the space in midfield that Spanish players give him. I'm sure he'll get used to it when he plays more regularly.
In the second half, his positioning improved quite a bit when we switched to a diamond formation. He was more involved and influential, and the whole team looked better as well with that change in the shape.
In the second half, his positioning improved quite a bit when we switched to a diamond formation. He was more involved and influential, and the whole team looked better as well with that change in the shape.
"Herrera is class."
You can tell he's developing his language skills, we'll make a Manc of LvG yet.
I just think more and more about us acquiring some defensive specialist to midfield. When we stop with this bullshit playing Rooney as b2b where he can do the job and push him forward to that 10 role where he had his best games this season and play again with Herrera - diMaría as two b2b, we have got tremendous power, energy and creativity in midfield and the only think we need is someone who will cover for these players someone who will disrupt other teams' attacks and who will be as physical presence to the team, who can actually close the gap between defense and midfield as Fletcher today couldn't do it and Carrick even a great passer and solid reader of the game is neither up to the top tempo of the top game no more... I don't think we need play maker. It will be difficult to get someone like Matic as I personally don't know any similar player to him who is very solid defensively and actually can play the ball really well.. but maybe someone like Wanyama type of player would make us a better team as we have got so many creative players. Look at Herrera - his best position is as 8 but the less he goes to help the defense the more he can score goals like today and he is creative in final third as well as great poacher imo as is for example mata who provides very little energy, tho. But even he could be used more often if we get this kind of player.. I think he is now used a lot because of injuries but with Mata and Herrera back he will be benched imo although he was quite decent last couple of games..
We've been crying out for someone to score the types of goals he's been scoring for us since he joined. We've been crying out for a chancer coming in from a midfield role.
Given the injuries, 'illness' and this investigation into match fixing, he's obviously not managed to get any rhythm in the team - but I do hope his return along with Di Maria can ignite a spark in the team and turn these draws into wins.
He's by no means a silky 95% pass rate Xavi sort of player, but he's a proper little bastard who gets stuck in, forces it without the need for major hollywoodness and he's proving to be quite effective when it comes to goals and chances created.
Given the injuries, 'illness' and this investigation into match fixing, he's obviously not managed to get any rhythm in the team - but I do hope his return along with Di Maria can ignite a spark in the team and turn these draws into wins.
He's by no means a silky 95% pass rate Xavi sort of player, but he's a proper little bastard who gets stuck in, forces it without the need for major hollywoodness and he's proving to be quite effective when it comes to goals and chances created.
Fecking outrageous he got booked when the cnut who blatantly rugby tackled him got off scott free. Getting a pit pissed off with the refereeing this season.
Great comment from Van Gaal. Pleased to see he rates him.
Great comment from Van Gaal. Pleased to see he rates him.
Great comments from the manager, that should settle any concerns we have that he doesn't like Ander. Now lets just hope he puts him in the team more often to back it up
Try to brake your posts into paragraphs cause this is hard to read like this. Although I do agree with a lot of points.
Didnt understand who is used a lot, Carrick?
As I mentioned before, I don't think he was great today, but it's certainly pleasing to see that LVG rates him. If Herrera starts performing consistently, it will be a huge benefit in the stretch run.
Aye, that was stupid outrageous that that fella never got booked
. Can't help but laugh at some of the refereeing decisions this season.It was the look on the poor lads face when he realised he had been booked.Aye, that was stupid outrageous that that fella never got booked
It was the look on the poor lads face when he realised he had been booked.
Feck, for a few seconds my hart went racing because I actually feared the goal was disallowed or something.
That's what I thought as well. I would have thrown something through the TV if it had.
Feck, for a few seconds my hart went racing because I actually feared the goal was disallowed or something.
Aye, it was one of those days when nothing would have surprised me tbh.That's what I thought as well. I would have thrown something through the TV if it had.
So much for the 'LVG will sell him to Bayern' bullshit I hope, great goal today.
Thought he did well and it was a brilliant goal. Loved his celebration he has so much passion so it's disappointing he got booked. It was a great moment for the fans and player and don't really understand it. We don't need football being such a sterile product it wasn't causing anyone any harm.
Seems like a great lad. Loved his celebration. You can see he loves life at Manchester United and the goals meant a lot to him.
Quality goal, did he really get booked for his celebration? Personally I don't think he did anything wrong.
I meant Mata but it will be actually tough call between Blind and Carrick once Daley is back. I would rather go for Blind tbh, he is fresh still young and quite more aggressive than Carras..
but as I said I do hope that we buy someone else to this position, someone quality who would start for example for Bayern or Real in champions league final..
I've never noticed your username before, m1y2, but you're absolutely spot on. I've bolded the entire post to encourage fellow caftards to read it.
The one massive hole in the squad right now is a genuine ball-winning, cape-wearing, cock-wielding defensive midfielder with excellent ball skills. Names?
Quality goal, basically from just a loose bouncing ball as well. I don't get why he was carded, fairly sure players do that every second goal.
Beyond the goal, I didn't think he played that well though. Got caught out and lost possession quite a few times. Saying that he was one of the few players that looked to turn towards goal when under pressure from another player. Everyone else simply turned away and played an overly safe pass. Where Herrera looked to move the ball forward still and keep things flowing, which is great to see as it is something that is badly lacking in this team.
Beyond the goal, I didn't think he played that well though. Got caught out and lost possession quite a few times. Saying that he was one of the few players that looked to turn towards goal when under pressure from another player. Everyone else simply turned away and played an overly safe pass. Where Herrera looked to move the ball forward still and keep things flowing, which is great to see as it is something that is badly lacking in this team.
Very good goal, his first touch is just 
Looses his concentration often though, simple passes goes to the opposition which you just cannott afford at highest level.
I don't think he is LvG's type of #8, he wants a box-to-box player with alot of aggression and physicality like Vidal/Strootman/Nainggolan/Fellaini/Khedira, Herrera has some of the aggression, but he isn't physical enough.
He is ideal as the the #10 in a midfield three, the issue there is we have alot of players in that position, so it's going to be interesting seeing what place he has in this team over the next year.
Looses his concentration often though, simple passes goes to the opposition which you just cannott afford at highest level.I don't think he is LvG's type of #8, he wants a box-to-box player with alot of aggression and physicality like Vidal/Strootman/Nainggolan/Fellaini/Khedira, Herrera has some of the aggression, but he isn't physical enough.
He is ideal as the the #10 in a midfield three, the issue there is we have alot of players in that position, so it's going to be interesting seeing what place he has in this team over the next year.
Didn't have a good game but he's the closest of what people expecting from a ManUtd Midfielder right now. Possession football & English football don't really suit him but there is still room for improvement. I'd favour him over Rooney Mata Fellaini any day of the week.
From what I've seen of him I think Strootman is the answer although he recently got back from injury and hasnt been playing that much.
He did ok, certainly brought some urgency into our game and kept the ball on the floor. You could see that he ran out of gas in the last 15mins when he started to give away too many balls. In a perfect world, he would have been substituted I guess.
I orefer that he plays in midfield and behind the no.10 and hope this is where he will start next game
I orefer that he plays in midfield and behind the no.10 and hope this is where he will start next game
And Dunk from Brighton wasn't booked for the same goal celebration against Brentford on Saturday
Herrera had a rough game overall, but his goal was pure class. Except for getting caught in possession at one point, I thought he picked up his game after the goal. As for the booking, I didn't see a single thing he did that was out of order. Is it possible he yelled an obscenity at some point that none of us watching on TV could hear?
Even if he did yell an obscenity, there's no way a referee would book a player for that given the large amount of vile language they get from players every match.
Didn't Rooney get a red card or some kind of serious retrospective punishment for screaming obscenities after a goal a few seasons ago?
That said, it would be completely out character for Herrera to scream obscenities. I'm just searching for something that we're all missing.
Usually "feck off!" gets a pass while "feck you!" gets a card. My guess is the ref thought he went over the advertising sign into the crowd and not just up to it
From what the commentator said, he kicked the advertising boards.
Not a red card, but he was punished for screaming obscene language at the camera after scoring against West Ham away from home in the 2010/11 season, which is different from what Herrera would have done.
And from what I've seen of the Brentford vs. Brighton highlights, a Brighton player kicked the ad board in that match as well when the ball was out of play and he didn't get a yellow.
This is my guess as well, but it's stupid to see how players aren't allowed to do that at all. I understand that referees want the players to be safe and not risk fans from suffocating each other to reach the player, but still, what's so bad about that?
I think the yellow was for kicking the ad board.
Anyway I think Herrera had a decent game. Lost the ball too many times but I liked how he tried to constantly create a speedy chance. The goal was superb.
I think Ander is close to what we have been missing in the midfield: creativity and attack minded style of play.
Just a pinch of aggressiveness and a few pounds of added muscle and he'll be great.
Anyway I think Herrera had a decent game. Lost the ball too many times but I liked how he tried to constantly create a speedy chance. The goal was superb.
I think Ander is close to what we have been missing in the midfield: creativity and attack minded style of play.
Just a pinch of aggressiveness and a few pounds of added muscle and he'll be great.
He's a squad player now.
Shocking isn't it? If he does really become one here, he should look to leave at the end of the season. He's too good a player to be a squad player here.
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