I'm not that annoyed, mind you.
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I'm not that annoyed, mind you.
Pogue doing a Striker10.
The site has been acting up for me aswell today.
The site has been acting up for me aswell today.
Wasn't sure which post to quote but I wanted to say, that I completly agree with that.
It never ceases to amaze me how much our last three managers seemed to love playing our best players completely out of position for no apparent reason at all. We're throwing Rooney into midfield and Di Maria on the wing purely to accommodate Adnan and Fellaini despite the fact that we have two superior players to both on the bench who you could just put in and allow Rooney and Di Maria to play in their best fecking positions.
It seems the most abundantly obvious flaw in the world to me, playing our best two players where they're not remotely as good or effective, yet still somehow he persists. What am I missing here?
I interpret the reasons differently. I dont think its about Januzaj and Fellaini. Rooney is playing in midfield because he prefers Van Persie up front. And Di Maria is playing on the wing because we dont have anyone better to play there.
Rooney should be playing up front. RvP is not justifying his selection. His selection smells of favourtism to the detriment of the team. Hopefully if we can get some defenders back and they can stay fit he will change the formation back.
Not being funny but Rooney hasn't set the world alight up top and was suspended for 3 games. His absesne seems to have elevated him somewhat. Saying that I'd like to see Rooney start up top vs Arsneal.
His shooting accuracy looked well below par against Palace. I'd not put him up top unless he improves significantly in the England games.
I am the choir. You are preaching to me.
Hallelujah!
That's how I see it too.
This is probably right, but even though Rooney has not been great, he certainly, despite what people think, is not a midfielder and playing ADM on the wing has completely removed his effectiveness. Rooney has always wanted to be the main forward. Neither ADM or Januzaj are great wingers, which unfortunately says more about our past purchases regarding wingers. I am going to bang on about the defence again. If he can strengthen there, I think he will feel secure going back to the diamond again. At the moment it is a big risk.
I think he clearly doesn't like the idea of Rooney up front. Maybe its t
I agree with this.
I don't have too much of a problem with RvP but I don't want him starting for any reason other than he deserves to. It also means we can get Rooney out of midfield and Herrera back in there like you say.
I find it a bit worrying that seemingly Rooney has to play because he's "his captain" and Van Persie has to play because he's Van Persie.
Rooney mentioned to LVG his best position is behind the striker.
Therefore his inclusion in the midfield has nothing to do with LVG being too scared to drop RVP.
The drama around Herrera is becoming slightly silly, he had an injury and hasn't walked straight back into the team!
Nothing unusual or news worthy about his situation tbh.
Therefore his inclusion in the midfield has nothing to do with LVG being too scared to drop RVP.
The drama around Herrera is becoming slightly silly, he had an injury and hasn't walked straight back into the team!
Nothing unusual or news worthy about his situation tbh.
You are assuming that where Rooney says his best position is is a deciding factor. But it isnt, Van Gaal makes his own decisions about where people should play. As evidenced by the fact that Rooney said his best position is behind the striker, but he has found himself playing in midfield. (Oh, but he never said how far behind the striker.)
The question is therefore whether he is "too scared" to drop RVP or otherwise disinclined to do it - because he thinks RVP is his best striker - or that Rooney isnt a very good striker and Falcao hasnt been fit enough to shoulder the burden on his own. I suspect he simply thinks RVP is his best striker and wants to allow him to play himself into form.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing him as a wide forward out on the left either. That way we can use herrera in a midfield 3, falcao up top and then di Maria part of the midfield or on the other wing with fellaini in the middle. I think up until now Van gaal was giving Van Persie plenty of chances to find his form while falcao is out, but I'm not sure how much longer he'll stick with him. He hasn't been terrible up top but he hasn't been very good either, and with the players we have you'd expect him to change it up soon.
I've never seen anything about Rooney telling Van Gaal his best position is behind a striker. Might have missed it, though. I also think I remember Rooney saying his favourite position was as a 9. If not this season, in one of the last two seasons?
What I definitely remember is Van Gaal saying something about him not being happy with what Rooney offers as a striker (or words to that effect). Made no sense to me at the time and makes even less sense with each ponderous performance from RvP.
Front three of Rooney-Falcao-Di Maria looks pretty damn excellent to me. Especially if that means Herrera playing ahead of two from Fellaini/Blind/Carrick in central midfield.
As I remember it, it was all part of the same quote. He said he hadnt been satisfied with Rooney up front - but then went on to say that Rooney had said his best position was behind the striker so he would now get a chance to play there.
Could be wrong though.
Which would be fine if he was actually playing just behind RvP, but he is playing far too deep. I honestly think the captaincy is making Wayne think he has to play in every area of the pitch. I know he has to set an example, but he is not doing the job he should be doing. We then have RvP misfiring and Wayne nowhere near him.
In his last two games he's been asked to play as a central midfielder, which is what he's been doing.
Then they wonder why we are struggling to score goals. The guy who is hoping to break Sir Bobby Charltons scoring record is playing in central midfield.
Well, exactly.
So did Bobby Charlton, tbf.
Touche!
Should be playing if fit. Fellaini's all well and good for certain things, but just because he's remembered how to be a threat in the box doesn't mean we can afford to play him all the time instead of an actual quality central midfielder.
Van Gaal wants a balance between the gung-ho defensively leaky stuff of earlier in the season and the more solid, stolid stuff recently? Get Herrera back in. He makes our forwards more dangerous but he's also a more reliable defensive contributor than Fellaini. With him back in, I'd be happy for us to revert to the diamond, which brings the best out of so many of our players:
**or RVP or Falcao
...but I've not been impressed with RVP at all this season. A different manager would have dropped him a while ago.
Van Gaal wants a balance between the gung-ho defensively leaky stuff of earlier in the season and the more solid, stolid stuff recently? Get Herrera back in. He makes our forwards more dangerous but he's also a more reliable defensive contributor than Fellaini. With him back in, I'd be happy for us to revert to the diamond, which brings the best out of so many of our players:
DDG
Rafa Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney Falcao*
Then if he wants more of a defensive screen against a good team, sacrifice a striker for Carrick, like so:Rafa Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney Falcao*
DDG
Rafa Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind Carrick
Herrera
Mata Di Maria
Rooney**
*or RVPRafa Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind Carrick
Herrera
Mata Di Maria
Rooney**
**or RVP or Falcao
...but I've not been impressed with RVP at all this season. A different manager would have dropped him a while ago.
I feel exactly the same.
Also, I doubt any of this 'LvG doesn't rate Herrera' stuff is true. He'll be back into the team sometime soon.
Seems to be a report based on a non-existent English report, but wouldn't it just be typical of the last few months if, having been given the chance to sign off on Herrera LVG agreed, only to change his mind a few months later. And so the cycle would begin again...
Sell Herrera and Mata, bring back Nani, why not it makes perfect sense.
Better hadn't be for sale. I would much rather have their type in the side than Fellaini/Carrick slowing down our midfield. We will be going backwards. Also if he treats these lads like that, he will have sod all chance of ever signing a spaniard again. These two seem to be close to a lot of spanish internationals. We will then be going down the hard working functional route.
Don't be ridiculous.
yawn! international break so plenty of newspapers to fill.
I guess LVG is aiming for a squad of 11 players with DDG, Herrera, Mata...all leaving! seems legit to me!
I guess LVG is aiming for a squad of 11 players with DDG, Herrera, Mata...all leaving! seems legit to me!
Maybe we could just loan him to another PL side for a season to gather experience while we are at it.
I watched United in Press on Tuesday and they didn't even mention the article in Marca about how we are treating Herrera and Mata badly. Of course you can see that two ways, that there is absolutely no truth in it or that there is.
Presumably just nonsense. With that said, as highly as I rate Van Gaal, I think he has serious potential to throw in a curve ball when it comes to some of the supposed highly-rated players in the squad. Selling Herrera and retaining Fellaini, for example, would be very, er, 'him'.
Amazing, Herrera breaks his ribs and the media speculate he's not wanted and for sale!? This is a bit like when the media decided LVG hated Luke Shaw and Rafael because neither were starting, this despite the fact they were both injured at the time...
If LvG does his job properly we will need a really big squad next season. Just hope he puts it all to bed after the break. LvG has a massive ego and it will be sad if he has told them they aren't in his plans. Can't see why they wouldn't be. I would rather have these lads, who seem to look after themselves, than the bunch, most of who didn't even contribute or are injured who go out on the lash to celebrate a boring 1-0 win against Crystal Palace.yawn! international break so plenty of newspapers to fill.
I guess LVG is aiming for a squad of 11 players with DDG, Herrera, Mata...all leaving! seems legit to me!
Hes injured whats with all the hysterics!
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