Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch

Me neither, was just a thought that I hadn’t seen mentioned on here. Love the look of Amad this season and would be interested to see how he would look on our right hand side. Might push Antony up a level due to the competition as well.

However, if it was between keeping Amad or having the funds to get Diogo Costa I wouldn’t be 100% against.
I hope he is given a real chance next season and not used like Pellistri/Elanga have been. He is a much better player than both.

Nope, not for me. Other players should be sold to generate funds.
 
You don't sell a talent like him. There is room for him in the squad as CAM/RW rotation for next season.

He may even be able to claim RW as his own...
 
The thing is, he's only 21. There's no need to rush his development. If he comes here and doesn't perform in the odd 20 minutes he gets, he'll only get sporadic appearances throughout the season. It's far better for him to get 30+ 90 minute games under his belt.

Look at Solanke - he was average last time he was in the Premier League at around 21/22, but he did two full years in the Championship and he's improved a lot.



Tuanzabe was the starting defender for a team that got promoted. He would've been starting week in week out with Villa in the premier League had we loaned him out and not decided to keep as the 4th choice option. My point is, when players are young, they are far, far, far (emphasis on the far) better off playing regular minutes even at a lower level than the odd 20 minutes every 2 weeks at United.

Amad had improved with regular 90 minutes in the Championship Vs being average in bit part appearances at Rangers. Another 40 games of 90 minutes for a promotion chaser next season would let him try new things, perfect his game more. Vs coming to United and being under immediate pressure to produce in the 20 odd minutes he'll get every now and then.

I'm not sure where you've got Sunderland's best player ever from but I'm sure most of them are in jest. Sunderland are not some National League team.
Not sure why they would be in jest? I have seen similar comments from Sunderland fans on different places. Check the link a few posts above, they are absolutely raving about him on that forum.

I see that a lot of people agree with you that Amad would only warm the bench if he were to come back, and that might be the case, but i`m not sure if it is that simple.

How many of our attacking players are killing it this season? Marcus and maybe Bruno as well? Both of them should be nailed on starters for next season imo. Sancho, Martial, Garnacho and Antony have all had their moments here and there to show their talent but haven`t, for different reasons, been able to impress consistently. I honestly believe that Amad is as talented as all 4 of them and should have as much chance as anyone to impress Erik on tour. We also have to take into consideration we are, as almost always playing 55-60 games a season, so there is a lot of minutes to play for every player.
 
Look at anthony from 2 sides...his attacking and his defending. If you look closely, Anthony is praised for his defensive aspects. Work rate, ball retention etc which is good. I never said he was bad at those. All i said is Amad matches him in those aspects. On the flip side when you look at his attacking...there is a lot to be desired. He rarely beats his fullback when one on one....he rarely uses his weaker foot...he doesnt pass beyond the average stuff and overall he has very few assists for united. Amad is better than Anthony in most if not all phases of the attacking play. To me, when Amad is given the chance, it will be Anthony looking for a way back.

Regarding Sancho, it is what I said. Garnacho came through and he displaced sancho as the backup to rashford. He does everything needed from our LW in the attacking phase better than sancho. Sancho maybe beats him in work rate but even that is debateable. Its a no brainer that when Garnacho is fit, we begin looking for where to put sancho. No wonder, ETH has got him playing in the 10 or RW as backup to Anthony. Basically all the questions regarding sancho got amplified when Garnacho came through. Its a no brainer that there are reports of us possibly selling him in the summer
Again, you massively underestimate the gap in quality between championship and Premier league opposition.

As for Sancho, again, Garnacho had nothing to do with it. Check how many games has Garnacho played since Sancho got back into the squad before he got injured.

They are completely different options and definitely not in direct competition.

When has Sancho played backup RW? He has been played at 10 because he is the right profile.
 
Again, you massively underestimate the gap in quality between championship and Premier league opposition.

As for Sancho, again, Garnacho had nothing to do with it. Check how many games has Garnacho played since Sancho got back into the squad before he got injured.

They are completely different options and definitely not in direct competition.

When has Sancho played backup RW? He has been played at 10 because he is the right profile.

Again...didnt say he was backup RW...i said he was backup to rashford...rashford plays as a LW...Garnacho is now the backup. Sancho is therefore left to either play for us as a 10 or a RW...and yes Sancho has played for us as a RW before. Nobody said he isnt the right profile btw...only thing is he is a backup. In the 10 he will never replace bruno...and the sancho as a 10 thing has never been tested over multiple number of games. Basically the sancho is a good 10 thing is still a myth until he performs well in that role. Its like saying weghorst is a 10 becoz he played there vs Barcelona. Sancho may fit the profile, but he has never really played there over an extended period of games.

Regarding Amad, nobody is underestimating anything. I didnt say he should replace Anthony....I said he needs to be given opportunities to show what he brings to the table. The rest is just to observe. Am not sure why you sound like you dont want competition for Anthony. If Anthony is sooo much better then it will show, he will just be better by the end of the season. Amad just needs a chance to compete for the spot, and then he will do the rest
 
City have Bernardo, Foden and Mahrez who can play on the right.

The idea he doesn't have a place in a squad with literally no other left-footed right winger other than Antony is bonkers to me.
 
Not sure why they would be in jest? I have seen similar comments from Sunderland fans on different places. Check the link a few posts above, they are absolutely raving about him on that forum.

I see that a lot of people agree with you that Amad would only warm the bench if he were to come back, and that might be the case, but i`m not sure if it is that simple.

How many of our attacking players are killing it this season? Marcus and maybe Bruno as well? Both of them should be nailed on starters for next season imo. Sancho, Martial, Garnacho and Antony have all had their moments here and there to show their talent but haven`t, for different reasons, been able to impress consistently. I honestly believe that Amad is as talented as all 4 of them and should have as much chance as anyone to impress Erik on tour. We also have to take into consideration we are, as almost always playing 55-60 games a season, so there is a lot of minutes to play for every player.

He's very, very unlikely to be able to nail a starting spot for us, given how he's performed for Rangers just last season.

Chong looked like Messi at times for Birmingham in the Championship last season.

Everyone will have their opinion and fair enough but if it were down to me I would give him 40 starting games in the Championship over 15 sub appearnaces for United every day of the week. He's 21, there should be no rush with him. We fecked up Tuanzabe's development bad enough as it is, the last thing we need is more of that.
 
Again...didnt say he was backup RW...i said he was backup to rashford...rashford plays as a LW...Garnacho is now the backup. Sancho is therefore left to either play for us as a 10 or a RW...and yes Sancho has played for us as a RW before. Nobody said he isnt the right profile btw...only thing is he is a backup. In the 10 he will never replace bruno...and the sancho as a 10 thing has never been tested over multiple number of games. Basically the sancho is a good 10 thing is still a myth until he performs well in that role. Its like saying weghorst is a 10 becoz he played there vs Barcelona. Sancho may fit the profile, but he has never really played there over an extended period of games.

Regarding Amad, nobody is underestimating anything. I didnt say he should replace Anthony....I said he needs to be given opportunities to show what he brings to the table. The rest is just to observe. Am not sure why you sound like you dont want competition for Anthony. If Anthony is sooo much better then it will show, he will just be better by the end of the season. Amad just needs a chance to compete for the spot, and then he will do the rest
You literally said that Antony will be worrying how to win the RW back.

I definitely want competition and want Amad in the squad next season. But my expectations are very different.
 
I'm glad the Sunderland fans like him so much.

Great loan for Amad seems like he's having a good time.
 
I'm glad the Sunderland fans like him so much.

Great loan for Amad seems like he's having a good time.
Yeah, it’s a benchmark for any loan. They have a manager caring about developing young players in a proper way. They also try to play good football which suits Amad and you can clearly see there is quite pretty chemistry developed between those players and Amad.
 
I don’t see Antony being benched by anyone, any time soon. He’s getting better and better over the course of the season. And attacking contribution aside ETH will be reluctant to drop him because of how he firms up our defence on that side. Plus ETH just seems to really like him.

Amad will need to find a different route into the team if he’s going to play a lot of games for us next season.

He'd drop him if he had someone else to rival him there I reckon. He doesn't seem to favour anyone apart from the weird temporary Weghorst obsession, and even that was probably more to do with not wanting to move Rashford from the left, as it's died a death as soon as Martial was fit.

I like Antony but I think the reason ETH invariably plays him is because we have no one else in our squad who isn't garbage on the right wing. So he picks himself really.

Rashford and Antony with Garnacho and Diallo as back ups seems pretty decent to me if we add a reliable striker. They'd all get enough game time if we didn't flop out of every single cup. Not sure where that leaves Sancho but he needs to Starr being less pointless.
 
You don't sell a talent like him. There is room for him in the squad as CAM/RW rotation for next season.

He may even be able to claim RW as his own...

There will be room for him as a backup to Bruno and Antony especially playing against low-block teams. I can see Bruno suffering from more injuries next season. He's been overplayed this season but ETY didnt really have a choice.

The challenge is finding a balance between whether the experience/talent gap is too big for those two positions that Amad can fill versus his long-term development, he's only 20.

There is no way any of us keyboard warriors can know unless we are there at Carrington. If ETH feels more secure about his future, then I suspect the will take the latter option.
 
We were all pretty hyped about Garner’s loan to Forest?
I watched them both in the championship. Garner did well for Forest and started a lot of games for them, looked really promising. But never felt that he looked THAT special. I really hope he can kick on and nail down a starting position at Everton, should be doable for him.

Amad sprinkles a bit of magic in almost every game he plays. His close control of the ball is something you rarely see in the championship, and not every day at the highest level either. Time will tell if he will be able to kick on and have the impact at the highest level it looks like he is capable of. He really does look THAT special, in a similar way Mason did, imo.
 
Yeah, it’s a benchmark for any loan. They have a manager caring about developing young players in a proper way. They also try to play good football which suits Amad and you can clearly see there is quite pretty chemistry developed between those players and Amad.
Maybe send Pellistri there.
 
Completely irrational but I hate his name :lol: Amad doesn't sound like a footballer. It's awkward to say.
 
Completely irrational but I hate his name :lol: Amad doesn't sound like a footballer. It's awkward to say.

Luckily one of his names (Traoré) on the other hand is probably one of the most common ones in professional football.
 
Luckily one of his names (Traoré) on the other hand is probably one of the most common ones in professional football.

Yeah he also has Diallo but seems to only go by Amad. It's on the back of his shirt and that's what commentators say.
 
Completely irrational but I hate his name :lol: Amad doesn't sound like a footballer. It's awkward to say.
Is it really pronounced the way commentators do? Sounds like a Westernised version of his name
 
Luckily one of his names (Traoré) on the other hand is probably one of the most common ones in professional football.
Traore is not one of his names. He’s legally changed his name to drop it and specifically said to not call him Traore. Traore is the name of the man who illegally trafficked him into Italy, not his name.
 
RW next season...Antony and Amad with Pellistri going out on loan.

Looks healthy to me.
 
He's very, very unlikely to be able to nail a starting spot for us, given how he's performed for Rangers just last season.

Chong looked like Messi at times for Birmingham in the Championship last season.

Everyone will have their opinion and fair enough but if it were down to me I would give him 40 starting games in the Championship over 15 sub appearnaces for United every day of the week. He's 21, there should be no rush with him. We fecked up Tuanzabe's development bad enough as it is, the last thing we need is more of that.

Christ, the obsession our fans have with loaning players to the Championship is unreal. I think we could buy Ronaldo from Sporting at 18 years old tomorrow and people would say he needs a few years playing for Burnley in the Championship.

Comparing Amad to Chong or Tuanzebe is absurd. Neither were close in ability relative to him nor as highly rated. And we didn't feck up Tuanzebe, he simply wasn't good enough and then had brutal injury issues.
 
Christ, the obsession our fans have with loaning players to the Championship is unreal.

Many on caf are obsessed with laying down "perfect path" for player and manager greatness.

For player it's loan to championship, then to some lower team in PL and if he smashes it then first team

For manager it's a simple FM journeyman save story.
 
Many on caf are obsessed with laying down "perfect path" for player and manager greatness.

For player it's loan to championship, then to some lower team in PL and if he smashes it then first team

For manager it's a simple FM journeyman save story.

Yeah I've never understood it, especially when history has shown often times that players that are good enough show flashes of it at the big club sooner rather than later. Unless I could guarantee that Amad would be able to go somewhere like Brighton and start/play significant minutes, no thanks to another loan. Him going to Crystal Palace next year or something and playing a bunch in a mediocre team won't move the needle on whether he becomes successful at United. Hell Connor Gallagher tore it up at Palace last year and has been nothing more than a cardio merchant since coming back to Chelsea. The set ups/tactics/goals are just so different at most of these other clubs that you risk stagnating a player over them getting good minutes even in a rotational role at the home club and being integrated into the system we run.
 
Dean Henderson.

Here is hoping we can sell him this summer although we won't get half of what we would have done after his season in the Prem with Sheffield United. He was being talked up everywhere then with links to Chelsea and Tottenham amongst others but now we are looking at maybe a relegation battler or possibly even a Championship club.
 
Completely irrational but I hate his name :lol: Amad doesn't sound like a footballer. It's awkward to say.

agreed. he should have a proper english name, like alan. that’s the problem with these foreign footballers, coming over here and refusing to change everything about themselves. i bet he won’t even be belting out ‘god save the king’ all coronation weekend.