Both are good points. Happy enough for him to stay where he is really. I'll be interested to see what we plan for him next season though.
Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch
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Yes Amad is excellent when he has the ball - his technique, decision making, dribbling and end product are all very good.
His major problem is off the ball, both defensive work, but also getting on the ball to begin with. It's where his lack of physicality still shows. Because he lacks some reach and strength he loses out on most 50-50s, and it also means passes to him have to be either incredibly accurate, or when he's in lots of space, as otherwise opponents will too easily take the ball ahead of him. So teammates hesitate to pass to him as there's a fair chance it'll get intercepted or he won't reach it.
So ultimately he doesn't receive the ball much from teammates, or win it back off opponents.
Cant say I watched it but, based on these stats, it looks like the little fella is fast acclimatising himself to English football. Promising. His talent has always been the more sure thing about him. However, he looked lightweight. Not something you can get away with easily in the Championship. If he's still making an impact despite playing against cloggers, there's still hope.
I watched the game a few hours late - but he was insane today. Millwall couldn't get near him without fouling him. The first goal was nothing special - but he had some runs that few other players in the Championships are capable of. MOTM again. Sunderland-fans are now starting to refer to him as one of the best players in the division.
Definitely good to hear, his technical ability is immense, if he's starting to tear it up in the championship I'm very positive about his future with us.
I really can't agree with this. His defensive work and tracking back in this match was excellent. There was one example where he used his body to see the ball out for a goal kick in a way that Lisandro Martinez would have been proud of.
He often takes the ball off opponents toes using his tenacity and speed and, to answer a popular question, he actually "did it" on a cold December afternoon against Millwall.
When I've watched Sunderland this season he has usually looked better playing wide but today he was a little narrower but he stood up to some physical challenges as well as anyone
He was an absolute pest to the Millwall defenders and they had to resort to fouling a lot with the inevitable consequence of yellow cards.
I've been impressed with how much he has developed, his vision, imagination and weight of pass were excellent today.
I can't wait for the "all touches" Youtube compilation.
Sunderland winger Amad Diallo urges supporters to change his chant
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ha'way the lads 
edit: what was the chant.. I cant find ... what was offensive ?
edit: what was the chant.. I cant find ... what was offensive ?
If he imposed himself a bit more he’d be totally unplayable at that level. He comes in and out of games, but you get the feeling it’s so easy to him.
Yes, I was thinking of de Bruyne. Although I must confess, in a rare display of foresight, I had him down as a top player early on, and was very surprised when Chelsea let him go.
ha'way the lads
edit: what was the chant.. I cant find ... what was offensive ?
Got the biggest dick in the Championshipha'way the lads
edit: what was the chant.. I cant find ... what was offensive ?
Only a small lad in stature as well
If anyone in here could bring some Sunderland fans comments about him, it'll be mint
Tag Detective Blu'Bear and your wish will be granted.
It’s so funny when he is dancing to it, 100% not understanding what they are signing.
I knew the second I heard about a distasteful chant involving a black player & his own fans it would involve the size of his genitalia. . .
Just finished watching this game. He was fantastic. A threat almost every time he got on the ball. He’s going to get Sunderland promoted.
He will thrive in a system where there is lots of off-the-ball movement.
You can see that when he passes he expects to get the ball back into the space he is running into or when he has the ball, he is struggling to look for passing options due to static his Sunderland teammates are.
Not sure if you watched the Milwall match -- he won his fair share of the duels against the pretty physically imposing Milwall players.
He tracked back to win the ball back a number of times. This is something new.
Statman Dave needs to be my PR manager on Tinder. I would be mightily impressive to anyone with his around including having the right inches and girth, and sexual performance statistics for the opposite sex.
I thought Amad did all right. Gets more involved nowadays but it wasn't even his best performance. His problem is that the players around him arent insync with his passing & movement.
The dribble he makes in like the 72nd minute deep on the left side, after a corner is pure magic.
Diallo is picking up a bouncing ball, have to wait for it to settle, and a Millwall player comes after him at full speed and perfectly lines him up for a big tackle.
But just as he is about to get tackled, Diallo slows down the pace and the Millwall player have to hold up the tackle a bit, and kind of getofhis balance for a split second.
And as the Millwall player just take another step before he tackles, Diallo just blows past him.
Looking at it isolated, you could almost get the impression that Diallo stumbled and got lucky that it threw off the opponent, but he does similar things like a handful of times per game.
He is an expert of making it look like he is slowing things down and is about to take an extra touch on the ball, and then he just goes the other direction leaving everyone around him in the dust. Often it doesn’t involve him touching the ball, he just angles himself towards it one way, the defender reacts to it, and before the defender is half way there, Diallo has shifted his balance and danced away in another direction.
I definitely agree with what is said above about the room for improvement. The more he got the ball, the better it is for Sunderland, but he isn’t seeking it up enough. Is the conditioning there for 90 minutes? Etc etc etc. Like we all know how all coaches always harps on you skilled players, don’t dwell on the ball, move it faster, while the skilled players if they got their choice would keep it for minutes, the more touches the better. But with Diallo it’s the opposite, at least at this level.
But it is not a mystery why some scouts absolutely fell in love with him. Also, I really think you must keep him at Sunderland. He is really taking big strides there in his game, his last game is always better than the one before it. There are pros and cons. I think he could fill in for Antony and we will need all depth we can get. But to really untap the potential he has — he just must play more games against grown-ups, realize what he can do with the ball, get involved more.
Like, to make it at the highest level, you must make sure that you get noticed, that you perform, that you get involved. It’s like early for Sunderland this season when he came on at like RW with 20-30 minutes to go, he kept his position, did his job. Got the ball 2-3 times. Made 2 good plays. Some fans go like ‘he looked like a tweener from the youth team, why did we loan him?’
Diallo is picking up a bouncing ball, have to wait for it to settle, and a Millwall player comes after him at full speed and perfectly lines him up for a big tackle.
But just as he is about to get tackled, Diallo slows down the pace and the Millwall player have to hold up the tackle a bit, and kind of getofhis balance for a split second.
And as the Millwall player just take another step before he tackles, Diallo just blows past him.
Looking at it isolated, you could almost get the impression that Diallo stumbled and got lucky that it threw off the opponent, but he does similar things like a handful of times per game.
He is an expert of making it look like he is slowing things down and is about to take an extra touch on the ball, and then he just goes the other direction leaving everyone around him in the dust. Often it doesn’t involve him touching the ball, he just angles himself towards it one way, the defender reacts to it, and before the defender is half way there, Diallo has shifted his balance and danced away in another direction.
I definitely agree with what is said above about the room for improvement. The more he got the ball, the better it is for Sunderland, but he isn’t seeking it up enough. Is the conditioning there for 90 minutes? Etc etc etc. Like we all know how all coaches always harps on you skilled players, don’t dwell on the ball, move it faster, while the skilled players if they got their choice would keep it for minutes, the more touches the better. But with Diallo it’s the opposite, at least at this level.
But it is not a mystery why some scouts absolutely fell in love with him. Also, I really think you must keep him at Sunderland. He is really taking big strides there in his game, his last game is always better than the one before it. There are pros and cons. I think he could fill in for Antony and we will need all depth we can get. But to really untap the potential he has — he just must play more games against grown-ups, realize what he can do with the ball, get involved more.
Like, to make it at the highest level, you must make sure that you get noticed, that you perform, that you get involved. It’s like early for Sunderland this season when he came on at like RW with 20-30 minutes to go, he kept his position, did his job. Got the ball 2-3 times. Made 2 good plays. Some fans go like ‘he looked like a tweener from the youth team, why did we loan him?’
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Love his goal today. Yeah it's a tap in but I love the fact he was there to tap it in. Too often players of his type are waiting at edge of box etc. Not always getting in there.
He’s a magic player. I sincerely hope we find a way to get him in our team over the next 2/3 years.
I would love to see him in Bruno's position.
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Mowbray explains how Amad developed his game during the winter break
Sunderland manager Tony Mowbray has explained how Manchester United loanee Amad developed his game during the winter break.
Mowbray former Blackburn Rovers manager explained why he felt Amad wouldn’t have scored that type of goal prior to the winter break:
He's starting to sound like a teacher's pet at this point!
Sunderland manager Tony Mowbray has explained how Manchester United loanee Amad developed his game during the winter break.
Mowbray former Blackburn Rovers manager explained why he felt Amad wouldn’t have scored that type of goal prior to the winter break:
He's starting to sound like a teacher's pet at this point!
Glad to hear Amad is doing well at Sunderland. Pellistri performing well for Uruguay at WC may prove that Ole's signings weren't that bad.
He made his senior debut for Atalanta just over 3 years ago and up until this season, in his career he's played 547 league minutes, 162 in domestic cups and 180 in European games. So a total of 889 which obviously works out as less than 10 full matches.
He's nearly reached that amount already for Sunderland, unless we're recalling him to play every week then I don't see the point. He needs minutes and he's getting them at a club he seems to enjoy being at with great support from his manager and their fans. Let him stay there and develop, Mowbray is showing here (and in the past with someone like Harvey Elliott) that he can help get Amad ready for PL level.
He's nearly reached that amount already for Sunderland, unless we're recalling him to play every week then I don't see the point. He needs minutes and he's getting them at a club he seems to enjoy being at with great support from his manager and their fans. Let him stay there and develop, Mowbray is showing here (and in the past with someone like Harvey Elliott) that he can help get Amad ready for PL level.
It's a shame that video is such low resolution, some of the detail with his speed of foot is unclear.
Also there are touches missing, including the pre-assist ball for the 2nd goal and one great touch where he took the ball from the keeper and scooped the ball over his marker and into the path of a colleague.
I think Mowbray might be in love.
no chance we recall him now to sit him on the bench. It was would be the most stupid decision in football history.
Amad is having a great time there and playing regularly in a tough league. It's the perfect situation for him and us.
What a fantastic post, you have highlighted exactly why he has a very high ceiling in whatever position he ends up in.
Amad is a master of "La Pausa".
A lot of the greats do this exact technique of body manipulation and timing, simple body jinks and jukes that look so simple but just take players out of the game in one move.
Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Busquets, Zidane few examples off top of my head who did this same thing every match. It's fantastic that it comes so naturally to Amad and yeah as a scout seeing a teenager doing this in his italy academy days it is definitely something to make your eyes light up!
Also his chicharito back header lobbing Donnaruma for us was just unreal for the little lad. If he does not become a Man United player by hook or by crook then we would of failed him as he has something very special for sure, extremely glad old Tony Mowbray has gotten into him about his intensity as that was the biggest thing he lacked.
Great for young players Mowbray, I would keep Amad out on loan for another season with Sunderland like others above have said. Amad has had so much wasted time in his short career especially at Rangers with such a horrendous loan, barely played senior football so let him really rip it up and flourish, fill out in the gym even more and come back to us with a 10 goal 10 assist season in the championship. Elanga can be our 3rd choice option till then with Sancho 2nd choice for RW & LW.
I am not a big stats guy, but looked at his defensive work in the Championship and it does confirm one comment I would have on his defensive play — he is really fast to get to loose balls.
This is in comparison to the forwards in the Championships, and shows that he has the most interceptions/90 and also gets involved pretty much in other areas of the defensive play.
Is November really called 'winter' in the UK?
I'll say one thing for starters - he's an attacking mid/winger and should be being compared vs likewise. Fbref have made a mistake with his classification there.
Despite that, with the proper comparison his stats would still be probably better than I was expecting.
I'm sure he generally struggles to get on the ball still though. But some posters are claiming he did better in that regard vs Millwall so fair enough if he's somehow improved that over the last month since I last saw him play.
Good catch, I thought “forward” included wingers but they for example put Elanga as a winger.
At the bottom line, I think you are right for sure. Like from what I’ve seen he tries to play defense and he wins some battles with his low center of gravity and by being like glue on the ball — but he could of course end up getting matched up against left backs that would own him physically.
But he does compensate some for it by reading the play well and being really quick to pick up loose balls.
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Diallo plays wide in a front three. He is definitely a “forward”.
Hasn’t he also played a game or two as a striker when they had a few other players out injured?
Hasn’t he also played a game or two as a striker when they had a few other players out injured?