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Looking forward to some things in particular here:

* Seeing how Marty will use Barnes.
* Seeing how the whole gang of "definitely better before the PL era but still good" players will fare.
* Seeing whether Gio will be the one who finally makes Starfish shine properly in a draft.
 
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It's him, right?

We had a player called Moai?

I thought he meant

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Looking forward to some things in particular here:

* Seeing how Marty will use Barnes.
* Seeing how the whole gang of "definitely better before the PL era but still good" players will fare.
* Seeing whether Gio will be the one who finally makes Starfish shine properly in a draft.

He shone brightly for my Reality Team.
 
I think Fletch and Butt have a better peak than DeJong but as anto said it's not a good idea when going forward.
De Jong is good for the role he'll play in our team, perhaps one and perhaps two rounds, lets get padt round one first
 
Looking forward to some things in particular here:

* Seeing how Marty will use Barnes.
* Seeing how the whole gang of "definitely better before the PL era but still good" players will fare.
* Seeing whether Gio will be the one who finally makes Starfish shine properly in a draft.
Gio won the last PL draft with Stevie in the team
 
Danger of not having much creativity with Hamann, Wise and Speed. Hard workers yes but killer pass, vision to dissect an opponents defense??... Can't leave it all to King Eric...

It's a solid team. Wise tends to get a bit underrated, but he's be perfect for the King to partner. Given 90 mins, they'll grind their way to a victory. Not a goalfest nor flamboyant, but they'll be difficult to play against. Plus, I think he still has not finished recruiting upfront.
 
Danger of not having much creativity with Hamann, Wise and Speed. Hard workers yes but killer pass, vision to dissect an opponents defense??... Can't leave it all to King Eric...

It's a solid team. Wise tends to get a bit underrated, but he's be perfect for the King to partner. Given 90 mins, they'll grind their way to a victory. Not a goalfest nor flamboyant, but they'll be difficult to play against. Plus, I think he still has not finished recruiting upfront.

I wasn't a fan of the Hamann pick. The best midfielder available at the time but definitely was overkill. A couple of speedy wingers with Speed and Wise in the middle and Eric in behind was looking very good.
 
I wasn't a fan of the Hamann pick. The best midfielder available at the time but definitely was overkill. A couple of speedy wingers with Speed and Wise in the middle and Eric in behind was looking very good.

Yups, Wise and Speed, or Eric himself for that matter... none of them scream diamond at me.
 
BTW @The Stain it's your turn and you have less than two hours left.
  1. Marty1968 - 1. Shearer 2. Terry 3. Yaya Toure 4. Bruce 5. Kanchelskis 6. Les Ferdinand 7. Barnes 8. Cech 9. Harte
  2. Skizzo - 1. Ronaldo 2. Campbell 3. Desailly 4. Gallas 5. Gilberto Silva 6. Kewell 7. Wright 8 Juninho 9. Bridge
  3. Cal? - 1. Henry 2. Torres 3. Hazard 4. Schneiderlin 5. Bryan Robson 6. Carragher 7. Sagna 8. Staunton 9. Park
  4. MJJ/Crappy - 1. Keane 2. Overmars 3. Ginola 4. Ince 5. Stuart Pearce 6. Fowler 7. Southgate 8. Berbatov 9 Ferreria
  5. Cutch - 1. Giggs 2. Essien 3. McManaman 4. G Neville 5. Barry 6. Des Walker 7. Hasselbaink 8. Clichy 9. Gudjohnsen
  6. The Stain - 1. Scholes 2. Lampard 3. Drogba 4. Ljungberg 5. A. Young 6. Baines 7. Carr 8. Woodgate
  7. berbasloth4 - 1. Vieira 2. Stam 3. RVN 4. King 5. Duff 6. Sheringham 7. Matic 8. Kelly
  8. Kazi - 1. Suarez 2. McGrath 3. Vidic 4. Klinsmann 5. Waddle 6. Ballack 7. Azpilicueta 8. Fletcher
  9. Tuppet - 1. Ferdinand 2. Ashley Cole 3. Xabi Alonso 4. Petit 5. Mata 6. Andy Cole 7. Nani 8. Koscielny
  10. coolredwine - 1. Cantona 2. Irwin 3. Adams 4. Hyypia 5. Dennis Wise 6. Dixon 7. Gary Speed 8. Hamann
  11. diarm - 1. Bale 2. Beckham 3. Van Persie 4. Pallister 5. Le Tissier 6. Batty 7. Hendry 8. Sherwood
  12. Gio - 1. Gerrard 2. Makelele 3. Robben 4. Kompany 5. Petrescu 6. Tevez 7. Adebayor 8. Van der Sar
  13. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Bergkamp 2. Modrić 3. Evra 4. Ivanović 5. Hargreaves 6. Owen 7. Joe Cole 8. de Jong
  14. Stobzilla - 1. Rooney 2. Pires 3. Carvalho 4. Beardsley 5. Radebe 6. Gullit 7. Butt 8. Riise
  15. bleezy - 1. Fabregas 2. Agüero 3. Sanchez 4. Mascherano 5. Kolo Toure 6. Le Saux 7. Johnsen 8. Schmeichel
  16. Šjor Bepo - 1. Zola 2. Carrick 3. David Silva 4. Zabaleta 5. McAllister 6. Keown 7. Winterburn 8. Leboeuf
 
I wasn't a fan of the Hamann pick. The best midfielder available at the time but definitely was overkill. A couple of speedy wingers with Speed and Wise in the middle and Eric in behind was looking very good.
Except that there aren't...any. A couple of them here or there right now and I don't really think they were draft quality players with 1-2 good seasons and the rest of them poor.

With Speed, Wise, Hamann, I basically have an effective midfield. I don't want expansiveness at this point of time, but in terms of fetching the results, you just can't doubt these players.
 
  1. Marty1968 - 1. Shearer 2. Terry 3. Yaya Toure 4. Bruce 5. Kanchelskis 6. Les Ferdinand 7. Barnes 8. Cech 9. Harte
  2. Skizzo - 1. Ronaldo 2. Campbell 3. Desailly 4. Gallas 5. Gilberto Silva 6. Kewell 7. Wright 8 Juninho 9. Bridge
  3. Cal? - 1. Henry 2. Torres 3. Hazard 4. Schneiderlin 5. Bryan Robson 6. Carragher 7. Sagna 8. Staunton 9. Park
  4. MJJ/Crappy - 1. Keane 2. Overmars 3. Ginola 4. Ince 5. Stuart Pearce 6. Fowler 7. Southgate 8. Berbatov 9 Ferreria
  5. Cutch - 1. Giggs 2. Essien 3. McManaman 4. G Neville 5. Barry 6. Des Walker 7. Hasselbaink 8. Clichy 9. Gudjohnsen
  6. The Stain - 1. Scholes 2. Lampard 3. Drogba 4. Ljungberg 5. A. Young 6. Baines 7. Carr 8. Woodgate 9. Davids
  7. berbasloth4 - 1. Vieira 2. Stam 3. RVN 4. King 5. Duff 6. Sheringham 7. Matic 8. Kelly
  8. Kazi - 1. Suarez 2. McGrath 3. Vidic 4. Klinsmann 5. Waddle 6. Ballack 7. Azpilicueta 8. Fletcher
  9. Tuppet - 1. Ferdinand 2. Ashley Cole 3. Xabi Alonso 4. Petit 5. Mata 6. Andy Cole 7. Nani 8. Koscielny
  10. coolredwine - 1. Cantona 2. Irwin 3. Adams 4. Hyypia 5. Dennis Wise 6. Dixon 7. Gary Speed 8. Hamann
  11. diarm - 1. Bale 2. Beckham 3. Van Persie 4. Pallister 5. Le Tissier 6. Batty 7. Hendry 8. Sherwood
  12. Gio - 1. Gerrard 2. Makelele 3. Robben 4. Kompany 5. Petrescu 6. Tevez 7. Adebayor 8. Van der Sar
  13. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Bergkamp 2. Modrić 3. Evra 4. Ivanović 5. Hargreaves 6. Owen 7. Joe Cole 8. de Jong
  14. Stobzilla - 1. Rooney 2. Pires 3. Carvalho 4. Beardsley 5. Radebe 6. Gullit 7. Butt 8. Riise
  15. bleezy - 1. Fabregas 2. Agüero 3. Sanchez 4. Mascherano 5. Kolo Toure 6. Le Saux 7. Johnsen 8. Schmeichel
  16. Šjor Bepo - 1. Zola 2. Carrick 3. David Silva 4. Zabaleta 5. McAllister 6. Keown 7. Winterburn 8. Leboeuf
@berbasloth4
 
  1. Marty1968 - 1. Shearer 2. Terry 3. Yaya Toure 4. Bruce 5. Kanchelskis 6. Les Ferdinand 7. Barnes 8. Cech 9. Harte
  2. Skizzo - 1. Ronaldo 2. Campbell 3. Desailly 4. Gallas 5. Gilberto Silva 6. Kewell 7. Wright 8. Juninho 9. Bridge
  3. Cal? - 1. Henry 2. Torres 3. Hazard 4. Schneiderlin 5. Bryan Robson 6. Carragher 7. Sagna 8. Staunton 9. Park
  4. MJJ/Crappy - 1. Keane 2. Overmars 3. Ginola 4. Ince 5. Stuart Pearce 6. Fowler 7. Southgate 8. Berbatov 9. Ferreira
  5. Cutch - 1. Giggs 2. Essien 3. McManaman 4. G Neville 5. Barry 6. Des Walker 7. Hasselbaink 8. Clichy 9. Gudjohnsen
  6. The Stain - 1. Scholes 2. Lampard 3. Drogba 4. Ljungberg 5. A. Young 6. Baines 7. Carr 8. Woodgate 9. Davids
  7. berbasloth4 - 1. Vieira 2. Stam 3. RVN 4. King 5. Duff 6. Sheringham 7. Matic 8. Kelly
  8. Kazi - 1. Suarez 2. McGrath 3. Vidic 4. Klinsmann 5. Waddle 6. Ballack 7. Azpilicueta 8. Fletcher
  9. Tuppet - 1. Ferdinand 2. Ashley Cole 3. Xabi Alonso 4. Petit 5. Mata 6. Andy Cole 7. Nani 8. Koscielny
  10. coolredwine - 1. Cantona 2. Irwin 3. Adams 4. Hyypia 5. Dennis Wise 6. Dixon 7. Gary Speed 8. Hamann
  11. diarm - 1. Bale 2. Beckham 3. Van Persie 4. Pallister 5. Le Tissier 6. Batty 7. Hendry 8. Sherwood
  12. Gio - 1. Gerrard 2. Makelele 3. Robben 4. Kompany 5. Petrescu 6. Tevez 7. Adebayor 8. van der Sar
  13. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Bergkamp 2. Modrić 3. Evra 4. Ivanović 5. Hargreaves 6. Owen 7. Joe Cole 8. de Jong
  14. Stobzilla - 1. Rooney 2. Pires 3. Carvalho 4. Beardsley 5. Radebe 6. Gullit 7. Butt 8. Riise
  15. bleezy - 1. Fabregas 2. Agüero 3. Sanchez 4. Mascherano 5. Kolo Toure 6. Le Saux 7. Johnsen 8. Schmeichel
  16. Šjor Bepo - 1. Zola 2. Carrick 3. David Silva 4. Zabaleta 5. McAllister 6. Keown 7. Winterburn 8. Leboeuf
Correcting typo on Ferreira
 
  1. Marty1968 - 1. Shearer 2. Terry 3. Yaya Toure 4. Bruce 5. Kanchelskis 6. Les Ferdinand 7. Barnes 8. Cech 9. Harte
  2. Skizzo - 1. Ronaldo 2. Campbell 3. Desailly 4. Gallas 5. Gilberto Silva 6. Kewell 7. Wright 8. Juninho 9. Bridge
  3. Cal? - 1. Henry 2. Torres 3. Hazard 4. Schneiderlin 5. Bryan Robson 6. Carragher 7. Sagna 8. Staunton 9. Park
  4. MJJ/Crappy - 1. Keane 2. Overmars 3. Ginola 4. Ince 5. Stuart Pearce 6. Fowler 7. Southgate 8. Berbatov 9. Ferreira
  5. Cutch - 1. Giggs 2. Essien 3. McManaman 4. G Neville 5. Barry 6. Des Walker 7. Hasselbaink 8. Clichy 9. Gudjohnsen
  6. The Stain - 1. Scholes 2. Lampard 3. Drogba 4. Ljungberg 5. A. Young 6. Baines 7. Carr 8. Woodgate 9. Davids
  7. berbasloth4 - 1. Vieira 2. Stam 3. RVN 4. King 5. Duff 6. Sheringham 7. Matic 8. Kelly 9. Jose Enrique
  8. Kazi - 1. Suarez 2. McGrath 3. Vidic 4. Klinsmann 5. Waddle 6. Ballack 7. Azpilicueta 8. Fletcher
  9. Tuppet - 1. Ferdinand 2. Ashley Cole 3. Xabi Alonso 4. Petit 5. Mata 6. Andy Cole 7. Nani 8. Koscielny
  10. coolredwine - 1. Cantona 2. Irwin 3. Adams 4. Hyypia 5. Dennis Wise 6. Dixon 7. Gary Speed 8. Hamann
  11. diarm - 1. Bale 2. Beckham 3. Van Persie 4. Pallister 5. Le Tissier 6. Batty 7. Hendry 8. Sherwood
  12. Gio - 1. Gerrard 2. Makelele 3. Robben 4. Kompany 5. Petrescu 6. Tevez 7. Adebayor 8. van der Sar
  13. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Bergkamp 2. Modrić 3. Evra 4. Ivanović 5. Hargreaves 6. Owen 7. Joe Cole 8. de Jong
  14. Stobzilla - 1. Rooney 2. Pires 3. Carvalho 4. Beardsley 5. Radebe 6. Gullit 7. Butt 8. Riise
  15. bleezy - 1. Fabregas 2. Agüero 3. Sanchez 4. Mascherano 5. Kolo Toure 6. Le Saux 7. Johnsen 8. Schmeichel
  16. Šjor Bepo - 1. Zola 2. Carrick 3. David Silva 4. Zabaleta 5. McAllister 6. Keown 7. Winterburn 8. Leboeuf
 
You might want to double check that "2 good seasons" bit. There's a reason he lasted this long. Imo at least. Maybe others will disagree.
Been through some Spurs forums and the majority thought he was good. Enough for me.
 
I'm bored, so thought I'd double check on what I thought. He made 31 appearances in his first season. 9 in the second. So that's already not two good seasons. He also got injured in January of his first season, and missed a month. After the injury he didn't find the same form. So that's already not one good season. I assume you'll be playing him out left too? That's where he played quite often while there due to what they had available.

Been through some Spurs forums and the majority thought he was good. Enough for me.

Don't dead. Open inside.

In the home match against Aston Villa in January 2006, Davids suffered a hairline fracture to his fibula, and although this only kept him out for a month, he was unable to rediscover his form from the start of the season and his first year in English football petered out.

After much speculation, Edgar committed his immediate future to the club, in doing so turning down an offer to rejoin the club he started his career with, Ajax. However, first team opportunities in his second season were limited due to the emergence of younger talent such as Sjor Bepand Davids eventually returned to the Dutch giants on a free transfer in January 2007. (

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I know in his second season Edgar wasn't great...

Aldo is not our captain. davids was finished before he came to us.

Davids left us being a bit limited, most people seemed to accept this.

Davids wasn't really much use on the pitch by the time he left, but I think his influence on the training ground and dressing room cant be overstated.

Plus a bit more on his position...mostly used on the left of midfield...not centrally


If Jol had played Davids in the middle where he made himself world famous instead of on the left wing then maybe he would still be here now running the midfield with the captain's armband. Bad tactical blunder by Jol IMO to play someone like him out wide.

Someone above has said he should have played in the middle - maybe, but it worked didn't it, and lets not forget there was no-one else as that time to play the left role.

He had to play Davids there because no one else could. We didn't have a natural left winger at the time so whenever we played someone other than Davids there they drifted inward leaving Annahnomoss exposed to counter attacks.

And a few more on how he was doing...

Last season he did not play much before Christmas, and we did not finally hit form until after he left and the bad atmosphere caused by his sulking dissipated. He spent most of the previous season chasing shadows and passing to the opposition.

No not at all, davids gave the ball away more than he kept it. He was way passed it before he signed for us.

Ed was never quite the same after that cracked shin or whatever it was, but the feckwits who slated his performances after that forgot he was turning out and playing through the pain because there was no-one else. Shame he and Jol fell out, but there was no disguising the fact that he couldn't keep up with the pace.

Maybe another part of the reason he looks good at Ajax again is cos he is sitting infront of the back four doing what he does best, rather then trudging up and down the left wing like was at WHL?

Liberty, I dont think you can solely put our near top 4 achievement down to davids, I think that award goes to carrick.

I think Davids' influence was more to do with his experience than his ability by the time he got to us. Whenever he actually played in the middle for us it wasn't a particular success and I think he was actually quite like Pat mustard in the way his poor control occasionally cost us.

I think both Carrick and Davids helped us do so well. I think Davids brought the experience, Carrick the technique.
 
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