All time ODI Draft

KM said:
He was our second best player in 2011 world cup.
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Yeah, but If it was the last 10 overs, and I desperately needed a wicket, I know who I would prefer. Zaheer's record is a little inflated because he did well against the likes of Zimbabwe and co. Agarkar has more four wicket hauls and more 5 wicket hauls depsite the fact that he played 9 fewer games. Add to this, he can bat too. His only negative was that, he used to go for a bit too many runs.
I don't take anything away from Zak. It's just a personal preference.
 
KM said:
Zaheer was terrific in the World Cup 2011. Having said that Agarkar's ODI record is pretty good.
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Was also our best bowler in 2003. All our bowlers were useless in the 2 games vs Australia though.
 
Ijazz17 said:
Yeah, but If it was the last 10 overs, and I desperately needed a wicket, I know who I would prefer. Zaheer's record is a little inflated because he did well against the likes of Zimbabwe and co. Agarkar has more four wicket hauls and more 5 wicket hauls depsite the fact that he played 9 fewer games. Add to this, he can bat too. His only negative was that, he used to go for a bit too many runs.
I don't take anything away from Zak. It's just a personal preference.
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Agarkar's stats are a bit skewed due to the insane start he made to his career.
 
For some reason I thought Srinath's partner in crime also played in WC 2003. Had he retired by then already ?
 
Agarkar is the better one day bowler. Overall, he was the more talented bowler as well but never had the consistency which Zaheer developed later on in his career.
 
Varun said:
Agarkar's stats are a bit skewed due to the insane start he made to his career.
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How can you call that skewed ? He had all the ability in the world and made a mark when he started his career. Same as Pathan. Almost all cricketers get found out eventually. Zaheer on the other hand, did well against Zimbabwe, Ireland, Kenya etc. He was almost useless against Australia, and very average against the rest.

I like Zak too. but he was just consistent and tireless, that's all. Since this a draft where we talk about players in their prime, the rampaging Agarkar has to be taken into consideration does he not?
 
I wouldn't say Agarkar got found out, exactly. More like his body just couldn't keep it up. Irfan Pathan, on the other hand, I feel like he got too carried away with his batting and forgot he was in the team as a bowler.
 
Didn't Pathan have a long injury lay off and then came back effectively as a very average medium pacer ? Was that due to the injuries ?
 
Ijazz17 said:
How can you call that skewed ? He had all the ability in the world and made a mark when he started his career. Same as Pathan. Almost all cricketers get found out eventually. Zaheer on the other hand, did well against Zimbabwe, Ireland, Kenya etc. He was almost useless against Australia, and very average against the rest.

I like Zak too. but he was just consistent and tireless, that's all. Since this a draft where we talk about players in their prime, the rampaging Agarkar has to be taken into consideration does he not?
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I mean both his ability is overrated due to the brilliant start he made where he was just superb. Looked like we had finally found a tier 1 allrounder. He went downhill after the first 50 odd games and never reached that level again. I won't take his ability to take wickets away from him, he had that but I wouldn't place him alongside zaheer either. Zaheer led our bowling attack and was pretty much always our only good pacer and his stats aren't very different to agarkar either. Much more reliable and consistent and a very good death bowler
 
Varun said:
Much more reliable and consistent and a very good death bowler
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Agree with the consistency part. Not so much about being a better Death bowler. Agarkar would almost guarantee you wickets in the final 10.
 
  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina 9. Jacob Oram
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie 9.Dhawan
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis 9. Carl Rackemann 10. K. Pollard
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn 9. Hogg 10. Agarkar
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming 9.Tahir 10. P. Patterson
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Chris Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8. Carl Hooper 9. Brendan Taylor 10. Irfan Pathan
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath 9. Bob Willis 10. Arjuna Ranatunga
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh 9. Tim Southee 10. Dwayne Bravo
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken 9. O'Donnel 10. Allan Lamb
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop 9. Atapattu 10. M. Samuels
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel 9. Ravinder Jadeja 10. Collingwood
@KM, if I am not mistaken.
 
Pathan got fecked by that cnut chappell. Quite easily the best fast bowler we've produced in my life time
 
Akash said:
Pathan got fecked by that cnut chappell. Quite easily the best fast bowler we've produced in my life time
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Agreed. He had amazing potential. All that nonsense about making him an allrounder and even going to the lengths of playing him at 3, 4 totally fecked him.
Ijazz17 said:
Agree with the consistency part. Not so much about being a better Death bowler. Agarkar would almost guarantee you wickets in the final 10.
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Alright. Agree to disagree I guess.
 
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  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina 9. Jacob Oram 10.Fannie Di Villiers
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie 9.Dhawan 10.Andre Russell
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis 9. Carl Rackemann 10. K. Pollard
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn 9. Hogg 10. Agarkar
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming 9.Tahir 10. P. Patterson
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Chris Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8. Carl Hooper 9. Brendan Taylor 10. Irfan Pathan
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath 9. Bob Willis 10. Arjuna Ranatunga
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh 9. Tim Southee 10. Dwayne Bravo
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken 9. O'Donnel 10. Allan Lamb
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop 9. Atapattu 10. M. Samuels
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel 9. Ravinder Jadeja 10. Collingwood
 
Varun said:
Nice pick. Was wondering if he would go unpicked
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We want him for past 3 or 4 round,had some confidence that no one would go after him other than people watched him play in 90's
Brilliant bowler,most of the batsmen struggled against him.
 
Mani said:
We want him for past 3 or 4 round,had some confidence that no one would go after him other than people watched him play in 90's
Brilliant bowler,most of the batsmen struggled against him.
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Nice going. Quite a good pace attack you have put together
 
Mani said:
We want him for past 3 or 4 round,had some confidence that no one would go after him other than people watched him play in 90's
Brilliant bowler,most of the batsmen struggled against him.
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In test though. Wasn't that great in ODI. I was looking at him before but went for Simon o'donnell instead.
 
  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar 10. Gooch
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina 9. Jacob Oram 10.Fannie Di Villiers
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie 9.Dhawan 10.Andre Russell
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis 9. Carl Rackemann 10. K. Pollard
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn 9. Hogg 10. Agarkar
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming 9.Tahir 10. P. Patterson
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Chris Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8. Carl Hooper 9. Brendan Taylor 10. Irfan Pathan
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath 9. Bob Willis 10. Arjuna Ranatunga
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh 9. Tim Southee 10. Dwayne Bravo
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken 9. O'Donnel 10. Allan Lamb
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop 9. Atapattu 10. M. Samuels
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel 9. Ravinder Jadeja 10. Collingwood
@RedTiger @LeChuck
 
Just a little teaser.
Making Sachin Tendulkar his bunny: Ask any bowler around the world in the 90s and they will tell you that one of their biggest challenges was conquering a man called ‘Sachin Tendulkar’. However de Villiers was one bowler, who even the master had a tough time mastering. De Villiers troubled Tendulkar and got him out a couple of times in 1996. De Villiers said to ESPNCricinfo, “County cricket taught me how to bowl the off-cutter, which is what you should bowl to Tendulkar all the time. I am not talking slower balls — the fast off-cutters.”
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prath92 said:
In test though. Wasn't that great in ODI. I was looking at him before but went for Simon o'donnell instead.
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We got him to mostly suffocate the rotation of strike. One of the best economies. Him and McGrath will make scoring runs a chore.
 
  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris 10. Stuart Broad
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar 10. Gooch
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina 9. Jacob Oram 10.Fannie Di Villiers
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie 9.Dhawan 10.Andre Russell
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis 9. Carl Rackemann 10. K. Pollard
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn 9. Hogg 10. Agarkar
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming 9.Tahir 10. P. Patterson
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Chris Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8. Carl Hooper 9. Brendan Taylor 10. Irfan Pathan
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath 9. Bob Willis 10. Arjuna Ranatunga
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh 9. Tim Southee 10. Dwayne Bravo
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken 9. O'Donnel 10. Allan Lamb
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop 9. Atapattu 10. M. Samuels
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel 9. Ravinder Jadeja 10. Collingwood

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
LeChuck said:
His record as a test bowler is amazing - he'd be higher if this is a test draft. His ODI record isn't as good as his test, but I think he's lethal.

We'll just make sure he doesn't bowl to Gibbs.
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But iirc, I don't actually think he was picked in the Test drafts though.
 
Ijazz17 said:
Just a little teaser.
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Yup, Fanie had Sachin's number. Sachin couldn't play him well. We had thought of getting Fanie last round only when we went for Mills as we in the end decided to have someone of Mills type of bowler. Anyway, both Ambrose and Lee are enough to care of Sachin in our team :p
 
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