To me, it is about picking him too early. He is certainly not a shit player. Got picked few rounds early than he should have been. I guess the laughing smilies are more because EAP picked him to fulfill Indian quota. Zak, Gambhir were still available that time. Arguably, Raina is also better choice than Jadeja.I'm not sure I understand the green smileys. jadeja is a perfectly decent player to have in your middle order albeit something of a plodder at times. Just checked his average and 37 is pretty good going
No he is better in that he has actually won matches a few times.
Quite opposite. He was all about flamboyance, on and off the pitch... He was OKish for a period of few years in ODI...nothing special. Picked way too early...wouldn't have been bad choice as 11-12th pick.
No but him over Gambhir is like misbah over inzy. Too big a gulf in class.
To me, it is about picking him too early. He is certainly not a shit player. Got picked few rounds early than he should have been. I guess the laughing smilies are more because EAP picked him to fulfill Indian quota. Zak, Gambhir were still available that time. Arguably, Raina is also better choice than Jadeja.
Ofcourse he is. Much much better. Or so my Manager says anyway!Arguably, Raina is also better choice than Jadeja.
You asked him to remove 1 of them from the list. That's when both me and Aldo realised he hadn't been picked. We had both read the post and yet not noticed he was unpickedffs, what did I do!
Yeah, he isn't shit but much better players available at the time make it a feck up of a pick.That's fair enough but he's hardly shit.
Yes. I know. That was a rhetorical question. feck me.You asked him to remove 1 of them from the list. That's when both me and Aldo realised he hadn't been picked. We had both read the post and yet not noticed he was unpicked
Same here. Thought he was only good in the subcontinent.Don't rate Gambhir much. Been on a long decline and was mediocre against the moving ball.
Don't rate Gambhir much. Been on a long decline and was mediocre against the moving ball.
Very good side mate. Some absolute legends in there as well.So lads, Jadeja notwithstanding, thoughts on my picks till now?
- Grant Flower - Zimbabwe
- Geoff Marsh - Australia
- Rahul Dravid - India
- Viv Richards - West Indies
- Dean Jones - Australia
- Ajay Jadeja - India
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- Richard Hadlee - New Zealand
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- Malcolm Marshall - West Indies
- Graeme Swann - England
So lads, Jadeja notwithstanding, thoughts on my team till now?
- Grant Flower - Zimbabwe
- Geoff Marsh - Australia
- Rahul Dravid - India
- Viv Richards - West Indies
- Dean Jones - Australia
- Ajay Jadeja - India
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- Richard Hadlee - New Zealand
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- Malcolm Marshall - West Indies
- Graeme Swann - England
It is ODIs draft and though he has weakness against swing, his peak years and overall caliber is quite good. Not a first 4 round pick but should have been picked earlier.Don't rate Gambhir much. Been on a long decline and was mediocre against the moving ball.
Same here. Thought he was only good in the subcontinent.
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Yep - Test stats were phenom, though.Younis is getting overrated. Pathetic record outside the subcontinent. The last few years of his ODI career were quite abysmal as well.
Yep Him with the other guy!Looks a very good team. Did Flower open the batting though?
Yep - Test stats were phenom, though.
3,4,5 are very good and then you have Hadlee and Marshall. Marshall's ODI career record is not great but it is still Marshall so a good pick.So lads, Jadeja notwithstanding, thoughts on my team till now?
- Grant Flower - Zimbabwe
- Geoff Marsh - Australia
- Rahul Dravid - India
- Viv Richards - West Indies
- Dean Jones - Australia
- Ajay Jadeja - India
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- Richard Hadlee - New Zealand
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- Malcolm Marshall - West Indies
- Graeme Swann - England
Younis is getting overrated. Pathetic record outside the subcontinent. The last few years of his ODI career were quite abysmal as well.
Absolutely. With the flamboyant middle order we had so far, he adds a much needed balance.You are welcome! He deserved to be picked, think he is a tad underrated.
As you said, it's the 9th round now and considering that, he's a very good pick. Complements yuvi and symonds beautifully. Smart and busy playerYounis Khan is not a v.good pick. Very good test player, ODI he was average imo. But it is 9th round, so maybe he helps fill certain position for Varunaldo
Oh right, just remember @NM saying that Jadeja ruined his childhood so I assumed he was a bad player.
But this is an All time draft. He has an excellent record in NZ, Aus, which will probably be nullified against top bowling. An R8-R10 pick is par for him.It is ODIs draft and though he has weakness against swing, his peak years and overall caliber is quite good. Not a first 4 round pick but should have been picked earlier.
Naah, except England, he has v.good ODI record everywhere.
@Mani and @Ijazz17
- Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir
- Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan
- Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh
- RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris
- VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar
- Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina
- KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie
- PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis
- Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn
- MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming
- Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8.Hooper
- The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath
- Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh
- NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken
- Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop
- Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel
Unfortunately, my manager didn't discuss the R9 pick with me. So dunno what to do
They will go at exactly 6 and over as a pairMcullum and Gavaskar opening the batting. Talk about contrasts...
That's people being spoilt by Dhoni. Overall India was just above average in ODIs and we lost a lot of winnable matches. Jadeja was a flamboyant player capable of big hits and though he averaged a quick 35 in most matches we never did win many. A good player but overall frustrating time to be watching India ODIs.