KM
I’m afraid I just blue myself
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What a fecking pick in Dhoni. I was hoping he'd go unpicked. A must have in any ODI team.
He was very good, especially because of his economy, no arguments there but he isn't in the top 5 pacers of all time.
What a fecking pick in Dhoni. I was hoping he'd go unpicked. A must have in any ODI team.
Leave your pick with meIf @Skills is around I might be able to pick after all
How? There was no chance of that. He is India's 2nd best ODI player all time imo.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of thingsHow? There was no chance of that. He is India's 2nd best ODI player all time imo.
I am talking about his ability as a bowler only. I'd have each of the 4 you mentioned above him and there are some yet to be picked too. I believe your strike bowler has to be a proper wicket taker, nothing contains the runs like a wicket and that's what gives some of the names I'm thinking of the edge over Pollock. Pretty sure they'll be picked soon so we can see who all I'm talking about.Why not though? I am curious to hear the argument.
He bowled in an era where oppositions have great batsmen and in noughties where the pitches became more batting friendly, yet his record was outstanding. Wasim and McGrath are the only two who were better than him. Others like Donald and Waqar etc were great as well and I would rank them alongside Pollock, with Pollock having the edge due to his lower order batting ability.
I am talking about his ability as a bowler only. I'd have each of the 4 you mentioned above him and there are some yet to be picked too. I believe your strike bowler has to be a proper wicket taker, nothing contains the runs like a wicket and that's what gives some of the names I'm thinking of the edge over Pollock. Pretty sure they'll be picked soon so we can see who all I'm talking about.
Can't agree to him being as good a strike bowler as the likes of Donald, Wasim, waqar etc. I'm not saying he wasn't very good, he was, just not top 5 or so.I know exactly whom you're talking about.
But, you are also severely underrating Pollock's ability to take wickets IMO. Especially in late nineties and early noughties, when his knees weren't fecked, he was as good a strike bowler as the likes of Donald, Waqar and a couple who are left. He wasn't as express as those bowlers but he used to take wickets consistently as well because of his ability to seam the ball both ways and bowl at the off-stump/fourth stump line which batsmen always tend to get out to.
Efficiency? He's just lazyHe explicitly mentioned it in the OP which is why I even bothered. But I forgot Mr Engineer is all about efficiency.
He was excellent, but doesn't quite make Top 5 for me, maybe Top 10. He just didn't seem to be the sort of Game changer the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Donald were. Infact,I sometimes used to think Donald would have been given more credit, if he had a better bowler along side him.I know exactly whom you're talking about.
But, you are also severely underrating Pollock's ability to take wickets IMO. Especially in late nineties and early noughties, when his knees weren't fecked, he was as good a strike bowler as the likes of Donald, Waqar and a couple who are left. He wasn't as express as those bowlers but he used to take wickets consistently as well because of his ability to seam the ball both ways and bowl at the off-stump/fourth stump line which batsmen always tend to get out to.
Efficiency is what the cool kids call it now . Keep up with the times Varun.Efficiency? He's just lazy
He explicitly mentioned it in the OP which is why I even bothered. But I forgot Mr Engineer is all about efficiency.
. You are worse than lazy. How the heck did you become Mod.I haven't even read the op. I just copied it from the link aldo posted.
He was excellent, but doesn't quite make Top 5 for me, maybe Top 10. He just didn't seem to be the sort of Game changer the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Donald were. Infact,I sometimes used to think Donald would have been given more credit, if he had a better bowler along side him.
Efficiency is what the cool kids call it now . Keep up with the times Varun.
I haven't even read the op. I just copied it from the link aldo posted.
@Skills
- Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers
- Aldo-Varun: 1. Sachin Tendulkar
- Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards
- RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.Adam Gilchrist
- VP: 1. Wasim Akram
- Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath
- KM: 1. Allan Donald
- PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara
- Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis
- MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan
- Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis
- The Red Viper: 1. Shaun Pollock
- Skizzo: 1. Murali
- NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni
- Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting
- Samid: 1. Joel Garner, 2. Michael Bevan
Auction draft is the bestDamn, I hate this snake draft. Just when you think you are one step ahead of everyone else, you realize you are walking in a swamp.
Exactly. Last few names me and Aldo discussed were bevan, Garner and Ponting.Damn, I hate this snake draft. Just when you think you are one step ahead of everyone else, you realize you are walking in a swamp.
@crappycraperson says: "That's a howler of a pick!" :P
Virat Kohli , MC!
think BC works better
Virat Kohli , MC!