All Time Great Managers Draft

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Jari Litmanen

@Šjor Bepo
 
Shit, expected him to make it back to me
Glad to see he gets some love, such a brilliant defender. Thought it was strange that he never gets picked, so I decided to change that if I should play.

Extra-glad I went for him early, then.
 
I'm seeing some rather left field picks in terms of all-time context, but which definitely fit the profile of the draft, or its intent, at least. Rather encouraging that perhaps the matchups won't be overly decided by names over how players fit to the ideology of the managers - makes me wonder if I can change tact and go for players that are, I perceive, the absolute best fits, or stick to names that look impressive on paper and, traditionally - I suppose - win votes for no other reason than being who they are.

@Šjor Bepo your Neuer pick is annoying. You should've waited a cycle, so I could grab him. :nono:
 
I'm seeing some rather left field picks in terms of all-time context, but which definitely fit the profile of the draft, or its intent, at least. Rather encouraging that perhaps the matchups won't be overly decided by names over how players fit to the ideology of the managers - makes me wonder if I can change tact and go for players that are, I perceive, the absolute best fits, or stick to names that look impressive on paper and, traditionally - I suppose - win votes for no other reason than being who they are.
You joined in later - it's definitely the former. Here are some of the relevant parts from the write-up:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-great-managers-draft.455016/page-5#post-25607461
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-great-managers-draft.455016/#post-25600821

I'm gonna annoy everyone with reminding of this a couple of times more. There's also going to be a section in the match OPs where drafters have to demonstrate how their tactical & player choices relate to the chosen manager's style.
 
You joined in later - it's definitely the former. Here are some of the relevant parts from the write-up:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-great-managers-draft.455016/page-5#post-25607461
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-great-managers-draft.455016/#post-25600821

I'm gonna annoy everyone with reminding of this a couple of times more. There's also going to be a section in the match OPs where drafters have to demonstrate how their tactical & player choices relate to the chosen manager's style.
I get the concept, I just wonder if it sticks when it comes to the voting as shiny names give a suspension of disbelief a lot of the time.

Would be a [very] pleasant surprise if the concept sticks all the way through the process!

Might be shooting myself in the foot here, but I did think Ronaldo, the world/concept breaker, should have been in the perma-banned list as, to me, he's the greatest striking outlier/glitch in the matrix there's ever been at #9. I also think he's the kind of striker every manager ever would make exception for.
 
ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. Briegel
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. Giggs
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. Souness
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. Villa
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. Benarrivo
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. Conti
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van Dijk
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. Pirlo
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. Netto
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. Silva
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. Litmanen
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer
 
I get the concept, I just wonder if it sticks when it comes to the voting as shiny names give a suspension of disbelief a lot of the time.

Would be a [very] pleasant surprise if the concept sticks all the way through the process!

Might be shooting myself in the foot here, but I did think Ronaldo, the world/concept breaker, should have been in the perma-banned list as, to me, he's the greatest striking outlier/glitch in the matrix there's ever been at #9. I also think he's the kind of striker every manager ever would make exception for.
I thought of that, but if you start excluding certain players it's hard to keep some others in as well. Often a very fine line between individuals.
 
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ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. Briegel
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. Giggs
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. Souness
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. Villa
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. Benarrivo
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. Conti
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van Dijk
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. Pirlo
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. Netto
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. Silva
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. Litmanen A. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer

@Synco
 
Nice pick @Jim Beam would be great as a Klopp player.
 
I thought of that, but if you start excluding certain players it's hard to keep some others in as well. Often a very fine line between individuals.
hmm. I'm not going to build up a case against my own player! :lol: so I'll leave it here!

I've been trying to conceptualise pre-injury Ronaldo in a Fergie team since getting the proverbial keys to the car.
 
ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. Briegel
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. Giggs
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. Souness
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. Villa
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. Benarrivo
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. Conti
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van Dijk
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. Pirlo
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. Netto
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. SilvaK. Keegan
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. LitmanenA. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer

@Gio
 
lovely pick. Would be interesting to see the use of him, he doesn't get picked often enough probably due to his short peak, but at his heyday was brilliant player.

yeah, that and combination of him being at number 10 where the competition is insane and also probably seen in people's eyes as a system player. But, really a wonderful player at that short peak.
 
So managers without footage are allowed but players without footage are not allowed? :D
 
Sorry, but the Gunnar Nordahl on footballia isn't the Gunnar Nordahl you're likely looking for. I made the same mistake when AM'ing for Physio.

(Except if you have another source I'm unaware of, of course)

I have not made the same mistake since I have not bothered to check at all :lol: I also torn over selecting Meazza at one point. :lol:
 
I now need a secondary striker who can play anywhere along the front-line, but primarily here off the left wing, employed as both a creative and goalscoring threat: Alessandro Del Piero. A highly skilled technician whose dribbling, set-piece, crossing and shooting technique were worldclass. Del Piero fits perfectly here as he works seamlessly in an attacking triumvirate: his creativity, link-up play and support for a centreforward (Batistuta) and his fluid movement and quick-passing partnership with my playmaker (Zidane) is tactically vital.

Operating in his famous ‘Del Piero Zone’, we’ll take advantage of his assists, sharp turns, curling shots and direct penetration cutting inside. His workrate on the wing, also adds cover and helps to create space for his teammates. A consistent goalscorer, Alex will ease the scoring burden on Batistuta.

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. Briegel
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. Giggs
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. Souness
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. VillaS. Campbell
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. BenarrivoO. Ruggeri
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. ContiA. Del Piero
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van DijkM. Kaltz
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. PirloR. van Nistelrooy
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. NettoL. Suárez (cnut)
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. SilvaK. Keegan
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. LitmanenA. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer


@2mufc0
 
ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. Briegel
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. Giggs
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. SounessB. Schuster
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. VillaS. Campbell
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. BenarrivoO. Ruggeri
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. ContiA. Del Piero
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van DijkM. Kaltz
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. PirloR. van Nistelrooy
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. NettoL. Suárez
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. SilvaK. Keegan
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. LitmanenA. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer

@King Kendrick
 
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ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. BriegelK. De Bruyne
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. GiggsN. Vidic
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. SounessB. Schuster
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. VillaS. Campbell
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. BenarrivoO. Ruggeri
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. ContiA. Del Piero
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van DijkM. Kaltz
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. PirloR. van Nistelrooy
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. NettoL. Suárez
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. SilvaK. Keegan
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. LitmanenA. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer

@Raees

Thanks to @2mufc0 for saving me some time, it was a hard choice between him and Schuster, even though De Bruyne probably fits better tactically/personality-wise.
 
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ManagerRound 1 (GOATs)Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6
Round 7
Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14
Michael - V. MaslovA. Di StefanoE. DavidsF. RedondoA. DemyanenkoA. ShevchenkoR. BonhofB. Hulshoff
Himannv/Fortitude - SAFL. RonaldoB. SchweinsteigerL. FigoM. BossisD. AlvesD.DzajicMarcelo
Enigma - E. HappelM. PlatiniP. NedvědT. HenryC. AlbertoF. CannavaroP. VieiraT. Cerezo
Raees - U. LattekF. BaresiN. SantosRomárioM. TardelliD. EdwardsJ. MasopustT. Burgnich
harms - V. LobanovskyiJ. CruyffU. SeelerP. BreitnerV. VoroninM. AmorosP. McGrathH.P. BriegelK. De Bruyne
Kendrick - F. CapelloF. BeckenbauerJ. BozsikB. VogtsA. CabriniRonaldinhoC. MakeleleR. GiggsN. Vidic
2mufc0 - J. MourinhoL. MatthausR. KrolJ. KohlerD. SantosH. StoichkovS. KocsisG. SounessB. Schuster
P-Nut - C. WilderF. RijkaardD. PassarellaJ. ZanettiL. Suárez MiramontesL. ModricD. LawD. VillaS. Campbell
EAP - C. AncelottiG. MullerR. KeaneA. BrehmeP. ScholesR. BaggioV. VasovicA. BenarrivoO. Ruggeri
Big D - N. RoccoP. MaldiniG. ScireaG. BergomiG. BatistutaZ. ZidaneC. GentileB. ContiA. Del Piero
Moby - A. SacchiE. FigueroaB. RobsonZ. BoniekXaviF. GentoA. IniestaV. van DijkM. Kaltz
crappy - B. GuttmannG. BestB. MooreL. ThuramDidiK.-H. SchnellingerRivaldoA. PirloR. van Nistelrooy
Gio - M. LippiC. RonaldoJ. NeeskensFalcaoK-H. ForsterL. RivaE. GeretsI. NettoL. Suárez
Synco - L. FavreM. DesaillyK.-H. RummeniggeJ. TiganaA. RobbenM. SammerB. LizarazuT. SilvaK. Keegan
Beam - J. KloppB. CharltonR. FerdinandCafuR. CarlosS. Eto'oP. VierchowodJ. LitmanenA. Vidal
Sjor - T. IvicR. GullitO. BlokhinP. LahmJ. StamA. ColeVan HanegemA. CostacurtaM. Neuer

@Raees

Thanks to @2mufc0 for saving me some time, it was a hard choice between him and Schuster, even though De Bruyne probably fits better tactically/personality-wise.

thank you as well, id probably pick him for the 81818 time in last 6 months so this way i can go for someone who isnt in drafts and he should be!