All-Time Fantasy Draft

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RINAT DASAYEV

The second best keeper in Russian history behind Yashin and one of the best on here. His distribution and triggering of counters through quick throws is an often understated goalkeeping attribute which sets him apart (see video from 2:28).



JOSÉ LEANDRO ANDRADE
The first international football superstar. Yes, you've never heard of him, others think differently:

  • IFFHS Football Player of the Century: 29th
  • France Football's World Cup Top-100 1930–1990:10th
Why? Because at a time when football was about 5 defensive players vs. 5 attacking players, Andrade was the first to combine both to devastating effect. He would both shut out his flank AND make the transition to attack, carrying the ball out of his own half and terrorising defences with his dribbling and precise long passing/crossing.

The Black Marvel, as the French baptised him was the fulcrum for a dominant Uruguay side which picked up two Olympic Golds, the first World Cup and three Copa Américas.

Raúl Barbero* said:
France brought him to the limelight. The nickname "The Black Marvel" was coined after he entangled and captivated the gaul stands with his bewitching play. A polished technique, his feline movement across the pitch, a sense of positioning and timing which allowed him to be in the right place at the right time to avoid a goal, even when the ball had already beaten the keeper. He nullified his rival -whoever that was-; and played his way upfield with a perfect dribble; passed the ball to the centimetre; and defended "from head to toe".

A complete player. A few years ago, a group of reputable critics had a roundtable to determine Uruguay's Best Ever XI and he was undisputed as a right half-back, but also picked as centre-half, and was in with a shout for his latter days as a forward when his pace was gone but his ability on the ball wasn't.

His burst into the Parisian scene was followed by the triumphant campaigns in Amsterdam and Montevideo. In the seven years between 1923 and 1930 he defended the sky blue 43 times, losing only three games and in all the major finals not once did a rival goal originate on his side of the pitch

*Raúl Barbero was at the 1930 World Cup and edited the first World Cup magazine while still a wouldbe journalist. In 1935 he starts doing it professionally and goes on to chronicle every World Cup from 1950 to 1982, including the 1966 one as the commentator on the BBCs Spanish-language World Cup broadcast
The Tiger Woods of football, imagine the impact this made on front pages across the world!

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RIO FERDINAND
Need I say more? The best English centre-half since Bobby Moore.

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ELÍAS FIGUEROA
"The area is my home, and I decide who enters it"

Figueroa was noted for his elegant style of play, his calmness in the centre of defence and his ability to cut out opposition attacks and immediately launch counterattacks from the back. With a great positional sense and aerially dominant, Figueroa would be remembered by all as one of the best ever had he not turned down Real Madrid and favoured Inter de Porto Alegre (which allowed him to stay in the Chilean NT setup).

Unfortunately, rankings and awards were less popular in the 60s, or else he would have even more than these individual honours:

  • 6 times Best Centre-half in the Americas (1972-77)
  • 4 times Best Centre-Half in the World (1974-77)
  • 3 times Best Player FROM the Americas (1974-76)
  • 2 times World Player of the Year (1975-76)
  • Best Centre-half at 1974 FIFA World Cup
  • 3 Times Best Player in the Uruguayan League
  • 2 Times Best Player in the Brazilian League (ahead of Falcao, Zico, Rivelino, etc.)
  • Best Foreign Player in the history of Brazilian Football
  • Pelé's nonsense 125 Living Legends
  • IFFHS Best South American Defender ever
  • IFFHS 8th Best South American Player ever
  • IFFHS 37th Best World Player ever (5th among defensive players, third among centre-halves)
Beckenbauer said:
I'm the European Figueroa
Passarella said:
Beckenbauer and Figueroa have been the only defenders who were better than I
Carlos Alberto Parreira said:
I do not hesitate when saying Elías Figueroa was the best defender ever in World Football

Amazing backs-against-the-the-wall display vs. Germany '74


GIACINTO FACCHETTI
Let's make this simple, think Maldini but much better going forward and clocking 0:11 in 100m. Played 634 games and scored 75 goals for Inter over 18 years, mostly as captain, winning four scuddeti, two European and International Cups and being runner-up twice. He was capped 94 times over 11 years, 74 of them as captain, and was runner-up at the 1970 World Cup.

Facchetti is remembered as one of the first truly great attacking-full backs. He would make marauding runs upfield using his wonderful dribbling and crossing. He could also play at centre-back where his tackling was used to great effect. He also possessed wonderful stamina and scored important goals.

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FRANZ BECKENBAUER
Der Kaiser's roll of honour is unique. Captain of West Germany when they won the World Cup and the European Championship, he also led his club, Bayern Munich, to three successive European Cups and also to the European Cup Winners' Cup.

But it is not just for the medals and trophies that Beckenbauer is remembered. Rather it is for the style and the genius. Every movement he made on the pitch bristled with elegance. There was an arrogance in his play that suggested he was always in command. But more than that, he was a great thinker about the game and brought about a revolution in the way it is played by inventing the role of the attacking sweeper.

In the late Sixties Beckenbauer began to experiment with the tactic of mounting attacking raids from the centre of defence. He had watched and admired the runs down the flank of the tall Internazionale and Italy left-back Giancinto Facchetti and wanted to adapt the methods to a similar role played from centre-back. Those powerful long runs out of central defence had never been seen before. Up to then, no one had thought that a sweeper had any job being in his opponents' half of the field, let alone scoring. Beckenbauer both created and bequeathed this tactic to the modern game. It contained the element of surprise and it became his trademark.

[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]As Keir Radnedge wrote in Soccer: The Ultimate Encyclopedia: "He was the puppet master, standing back and pulling the strings which earned West Germany and Bayern Munich every major prize."

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FRANK RIJKAARD
The defensive rock for Milan's all-conquering side of the late 80s and early 90s, Rijkaard also combined that with the skills instilled into all Ajax and Dutch greats. Scored 81 goals over 414 league games and also the 1988 Euros with Netherlands and a third Champions League/EC (oh!, and a CWC) with Ajax, playing at centre-half. Beast.

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DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA
The greatest football player of all time? Most experts would say so. It’s not just phenomenal ability with a ball at his feet but the charisma and propensity to lift those around him to a higher level that really sets him apart.

Maradona held perhaps the best skill level ever seen in terms of passing ability and dribbling. Famous for his hand of God goal but also the greatest individual goal of all time. Also famous for single handily carrying teams to success.

What happens when the best player of all time comes to town? About 90,000 fans turned up after he signed for Napoli along with 253 journalists and 78 photographers. 86% of Napoli’s stadium capacity became season ticket holders. ...The best player in the best league in the world. (A league with Platini, Matthaus, Rijkaard, Van Basten & Zico) Napoli had only won 2 Italian Cups in their history until Maradona came along...soon a Cult of Maradona emerged...It was said 20,000 local government voters had written “Viva Maradona” on their ballot papers, making their votes uncountable...another myth was that 100 donkeys were imported for the post-Scudetto celebrations. Floats were prepared with Maradona on a throne and Platini & Rummenigge prone at his feet
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HRISTO STOICHKOV
Stoichkov was feared for his speed and potent shot, but is widely remembered for his fiery temperament. When he channeled his aggression during a match, he was a formidable player, often carrying his team single-handedly. Renowned for his never-say-die attitude, Stoichkov fought for the ball with the fierce intensity whether it was the first minute or the last.

One of the stars of the Barca Dream Team that delivered their first European Cup and four consecutive league titles, will be reunited with Laudrup to form a devastating partnership, where the Dane provided the cold-blooded ‘seny’ (reason, or nous) to Stoichkov’s fervid ‘rauxa’ (passion).

The only Barça player to have won the European Cup (1992), the Golden Boot (1990) and the Balon d’Or (1995)

About 40 minutes of goals here


THIERRY HENRY
Arguably the greatest player in Arsenal's history and among those who helped France win the World Cup in 1998 and the European Championships two years later.

He also won a Champions League, was runner-up once more both for the CL and World Cup, the star of The Invincibles, Arsenal's all-time top scorer and arguably the EPLs best player since its inception with a return of 71 goals and 36 assists in 106 games (2002-04)... But somehow he never got the Individual Honours that deserved.

Will be devastating with this sort of service.



PELÉ - O REI
The best player of all time.

A genius who truly turned football into the ‘Beautiful Game’, his World Cup exploits are unmatched, his goal scoring record never bettered and his penchant for the sublime and breathtaking unsurpassed.

With every touch of the ball, every pass, every dribble, Pele was capable of coming up with something new - something the fans had never seen before.

Allying perfect technique with speed, intelligence, movement, a ferocious shot an incredible leap the Brazilian was just about the perfect footballer.
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But Antohan, we all know Terry is the greatest English CB ever!! :angel:
 
It will be 6 hours in 30 mins so can move onto the next person.
 
SUBS:

JAVIER ZANETTI
The very model of uncomplaining duty, a beacon of honest, virtuous endeavour. To see him playing for Inter or Argentina, putting out fires here, there and everywhere, you half expect him to nip into a phone booth and emerge with cape and the power of flight – not that he needed it.

Notwithstanding his increasingly frequent auxiliary midfieldery, Zanetti is, to the core, a defender’s defender: there’s no jockey, block, block-off, block-tackle, slide tackle or header, no marking job or last-ditch clearance that is not carried out with diligence, courage, and a preternatural relish – a leader, yes, but by deed, not word; he is incredibly taciturn on the field, his expression scarcely anything other than one of engrossed concentration, a concentration as relentless as his industriousness. He just keeps going and going and going – his nickname in Italy is Il trattore (‘The Tractor’), thighs curved like some improbable stringed instrument of the Carpathians, driving and pumping until his opponent yields, whereupon, having dispossessed him, efficiently and without fuss, the ball is laid off to a creative player (or else, he might surge forward himself. Why not…?).

All-time highest number of caps for Argentina on 145, despite his last World Cup game being played in 2002 thanks to ludicrous management.

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ANDRÉS INIESTA
Iniesta has been a key driving force for both the most dominant club and national side in the last half decade (if not history). Barca have won everything in sight and they have Messi, but what about Spain? Is it Xavi or Iniesta? Arguably both, but it has been Iniesta shining brighter since scoring the winner in the World Cup Final. Xavi's passing is sublime, but it requires someone doing something at the end of it, while Iniesta doesn't. When everyone else fails, he will just go and do it himself.

Andrés will be alternating between providing a wide option, as he has done more recently, or being part of a midfield trio and contributing to defensive duties. If Toure/Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta works so well, there's no reason Rijkaard, Effenberg and Iniesta won't.

This is just him for Barca in the current season


He will also get a shot at playing alongside his childhood hero, the one who's kit was the first he got, the one he considers the best player ever...

MICHAEL LAUDRUP
One of the most underrated players ever. A phenomenal orchestrator who combined the best elements of old-school and modern styles. He was admired for his outstanding technique, elegance, deep passes and dribbling. His trademark move — looking one way and passing the other — fooled countless opponents during his career. The Laudrup dribble was perhaps the best-known part of his game, as he quickly moved the ball from one foot to the other away from the defender. His outstanding skills were combined with an immense creativity. He always played the attack in the least obvious way, leaving the defense stranded. Laudrup's teammates said: "Just run, he will always find a way of passing you the ball".

Hristo Stoichkov said:
From more than hundred goals that I scored I'm sure that over 50 were assisted by Michael. To play with him was extremely easy. We found each other by intuition on the field and found common football language. Look at Ivan Zamorano. Laudrup went there (Real) and Zamorano is a goalscorer. Sometimes I envy Ivan for the passes he receives. Passes on foot after you accelerated. Few people understand football like the Danish player. He can only be comprised with Maradona, Schuster or Roberto Baggio. They make things easy and find the right solutions. For them is simple, for the opponent - unthinkable. Phenomenal!

Franz Beckenbauer said:
Pelé was the best in the 60s, Cruyff in the 70s, Maradona in the 80s, and Laudrup in the 90s

Pep Guardiola said:
From him I learned everything I know about football





RIVELINO
Considered to be the fourth greatest player in Brazilian history after Pele, Zico, and Garrincha, Rivelino was lauded for his grace on the pitch, as well as his dazzling array of moves, which included his patented “Elastico” (flip flap) in which he faked going right while keeping control of the ball and then spinning it to his left.

He had excellent passing skills, a sharp mind, excellent dribbling skills, and a thunderous left footed shot. He was also a tremendous free-kick taker, famous for his “banana-bending” kicks. His inclusion on the left-wing, as the more intelligent and cerebral alternative to Jairzinho's right-wing mazy runs, gave Brazil's 1970 side a beautiful balance.

Maradona said:
I grew up as an Argentinian kid, but with a Brazilian as my idol. His name? Rivelino. Everyone talked about Pelé, and I take my hat off, great player, but I didn't care what Pelé was doing, my eyes were all for Rivelino on the other side of the pitch. His left foot, his elegance, his rebelliousness... He was everything I wanted to be as a player. His dribbling was flawless, his passes perfectly accurate, and his shots unstoppable. And he did everything with his left foot. It didn’t matter if his right foot was only good to stand on, because there was nothing he couldn’t do with his left. To me it was beautiful.

Beckenbauer after the FIFA All-Star Team -with Yashin- lost 2-1 to a Rivelino goal in 1968 said:
I came here to see Pelé, and I ended up watching Rivelino



VELIBOR VASOVIC
A complete defender. Quick, tactically astute, excellent in the air, always in the right place at the right time. Vasovic is in an elite club of defenders (e.g. Beckenbauer, Facchetti) who revolutionised the game and the art of defending in the 60s and early 70s. A leader as well, he captained both Partizan Belgrade and Ajax to three European Cup finals, winning one and scoring his side's only goal in the two he lost. That I call leading by example.
The Independent said:
What stood out most about Vasović - and it is a trait possessed by the game's greatest sweepers - is a confidence that not only bordered on arrogance it actively invaded and settled there. In his more subdued moments he claimed to be the central architect behind the totaalvoetbal philosophy, but it is undeniable that his pace and intelligence allowed Michels to implement the ruthlessly efficient offside trap that became a hallmark of Ajax's defensive strategy. Source.

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ARSENIO ERICO
Erico was Romario's speed of thought, dribbling, and playing off the shoulder, with Hugo Sánchez' athleticism and Zamorano's aerial dominance, all neatly rolled into one.

Agile, nippy striker, with a leap that allowed him to jump higher than a keepers' arms from a standing position. When the ball was not high enough he would bicycle kick it. If slightly behind him he would scorpion kick it.

The highest ever goalscorer in the Argentinian league, at that time the best in the world. He was top scorer for three consecutive seasons: 1937 (47 goals in 34 games), 1938 (43 goals in 30) and 1939 (40 goals in 32) and wrapped up his career with 331 goals in 372.

But let's see what someone who has seen them all has to say about the red jack-in-the-box....

Alfredo Di Stéfano said:
Erico was different to all, all and any of the players I have seen. An outstanding player. EVERYTHING that could be encompassed, without exaggeration, in the five letters of the word CRACK. To me, he was like a circus juggler, an artist. Sorry, a great artist...

It was like a trampoline, there was something under those boots. His movement, the elasticity of his body. He had a unique leap.

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STEFAN EFFENBERG
Der Tiger was your typical dominant angry German midfielder, but also possessed a sublime passing ability, both short and long (do watch the clip). He captained Bayern through a very successful spell which, after heartache in 1999 :devil:, landed them the Champions League in 2001 and the UEFA Club Footballer of the Year for him.



CESC FABREGAS
A playmaker with exquisite vision and passing range, Fabregas created the most goal scoring opportunities in any of the top divisions between 2006-07 and 2010-11. While capable of playing at a fast pace, he will be used primarily as a midfield reinforcement to help with defensive duties, control the tempo of a game and spray passes to those further forward, Henry in particular having a great understanding with him. In short, a more patient Xavi-like alternative to Iniesta's more inicisive and direct style of play.

And if the oppo has anyone with superpowers, he can slice their skull and steal them.

 
Gio:

Branko Stankovic: the Ambassador

Gio said:
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Pioneering Yugoslavian right-back whose modern style of play became the blueprint for others who followed in his footsteps. Coined the "Ambassador" for his elegant approach and his class as a player and as a person was highly respected by Stanley Matthews who invited Stankovic to his 80th birthday celebrations.

He was sophisticated, strong and fast player. He was decent shooter (mainly because of his shot power). He wasn't a rough player, furthermore he was a true gentleman on the field (Stanley Matthews said that he was a real class of a player, strong but he used that force only in truly gentlemanly manner). Ambassador was very good free-kick and dead-ball taker. Stanković had excellent positioning both in attack and defense and his aerial game was good.
 
Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi 4. Krol 5. Zanetti 6. Kocsis 7. Vidic 8. Shesternyov 9. Pirri 10. Czibor 11. Pfaff 12. Ocwirk 13. Costacurta

DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta, 4. Gascoigne 5. Makelele 6. McGrath 7. Vogts 8. Camacho 9. Seedorf 10. Drogba 11. Cech, 12. Van Persie 13. Yaya

KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik, 4. Sammer 5. Nedved 6. Valderrama 7. Banks 8. Schiaffino 9. Djalma Santos 10. Popluhar 11. Lizarazu 12. Robben 13. Busquets

Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o, 4. Cannavaro 5. Coluna 6. Bremner 7. Carlos Alberto 8. Blanc 9. Alonso 10. Lahm 11. Preud’Homme 12. Weah 13. Luis Enrique

NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens 3. Passarella 4. Boniek 5. Thuram 6. Tardelli 7. Carvalho 8. Blokhin 9. Rummenigge 10. Cole 11. Zamora 12. Netzer 13. Mc Neill

Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten 3. Robson 4. R Baggio 5. Charles 6. Tigana 7. Hierro 8. Maier 9. Nilton Santos 10. Shevchenko 11. Kahn 12. Hamrin 13. Eyzaguirre

Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane 3. Falcão 4. Giggs 5. Matthews 6. Brehme 7. Trésor 8. McGrain 9. Spencer 10. Germano 11. Sárosi 12. Mazurkiewicz 13. Haan

MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha 3. Muller 4. Luis Suárez 5. Meazza 6. Schmeichel 7. Rui Costa 8. Nasazzi 9. Chumpitaz 10. Zebec 11. Monti 12. Suurbier 13. Quincoces

JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini 3. Deschamps 4. Gento 5. Stam 6. Law 7. Deco 8. Janes 9. Augusto 10. Peters 11. Giles 12. Gamarra 13. Fillol

mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov 3. Breitner 4. Jairzinho 5. Bergomi 6. Varela 7. Koeman 8. Marzolini 9. Gerets 10. Kopa 11. Shilton 12. Johnstone 13. Popescu

EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore 3. Redondo 4. Figo 5. Romario 6. Desailly 7. Dzajic 8. Schnellinger 9. Essien 10. Guardiola 11. Southall 12. Burgnich 13. Sanchez

Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi 3. Rivaldo 4. Kohler 5. Davids 6. Gentile 7. Moreno 8. Nordahl 9. Franklin 10. Jennings 11. Demyanenko 12. Morton 13. Stankovic

Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard 3. Iniesta 4. Facchetti 5. Henry 6. R. Ferdinand 7. Effenberg 8. Vasovic 9. Dasayev 10. Andrade 11. Erico 12. Rivelino

Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia) 3. Scholes 4. Souness 5. Savicevic 6. Cafu 7. Kubala 8. Van Nistlerooy 9. Puyol 10. Ayala 11. Montero 12. Happel

Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus 3. Santamaríá 4. Hansen 5. Hagi 6. Finney 7. Viera 8. Irwin 9. Cabrini 10. Raul 11. Veron 12. Cordoba

paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi 3. Voronin 4. Masopust 5. Batistuta 6. Gullit 7. Socrates 8. Amoros 9. Schuster 10. Gordillo 11. Beckham 12. Gregg
 
Yay, well done to you lads for PMing.

Hopefully get it finished tonight.
 
Yeah but he also really wanted Luis Enrique so guess it must be a another personal favourite.
 
The missus wanted to go out tonight but I told her I'm staying in for the draw.

Got a feeling we'll be facing paceme.
 
The missus wanted to go out tonight but I told her I'm staying in for the draw.

Got a feeling we'll be facing paceme.

Your sleeping on the couch for a while aren't you?
 
Strange pick seeing as he has Iniesta.

Aye, i expected him to pick an argie seeings he's got none of them yet

Yeah but he also really wanted Luis Enrique so guess it must be a another personal favourite.

The logic was Luis Enrique gave me some tactical options which Iniesta does not. In some cases I would opt for Luis Enrique rather than Iniesta (seeing as I have both Henry and Rivelino anyway).

Usually I would play Iniesta, but if facing a game where I could be under pressure, although Iniesta does his fair share of defensive duties, Fabregas provides as much in that sense, while his range of passing is a tad better. Knit-picking really.

Effectively, if I'm clearly dominant Iniesta is a no-brainer, while Cesc would be a rather more conservative option. Luis Enrique provided the ideal alternative, but he was gone and the others looked far too defensive.

Quite peeved about that decision, but Rivelino was more important for alternative strategies so I had to secure him.
 
NM! Surprised you didnt know, I seem to be more arsed about it than he is :lol:.

:mad:

I care more than you - I just don't plan on being kicked out of the house like you do!

:lol: I just know there is someone who seems to have like three people helping so it's rather confusing. In fact it would make more sense to actually put all the people contributing in the team name.

Anointed One WAS helping me as well but poor internet has killed that.

Clever way to say that you want NM's name removed from the list.

Kidding, mate.


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EDogan's got a whole fecking backroom of staff going on. If I'd known that I'd have tried to sign up Fortitude.

It's easier for him though. They're anyway hibernating up north in Sweden at this time of the year, might as well help a bloke win an online Fantasy Draft.

I must say that this draft came at the best time for me, almost nothing at the university right now and I have been sick for like a week. I have basically lived in this thread last week.

As for my "background staff" I think it has been a good thing having someone to discuss with even though it has been a Liverpool and a Arsenal fan.

Also the draft in the newbies is a good memory to have with me, learned so much that time so this time has been a lot less work.
 
Edogen takes Hugo Sanchez

Just putting in a picture of my latest recruit. A real number 9 who scored goals for fun in La Liga for a couple of seasons. Also the bicycle man!

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Could be handy to have a sub for Romario.. who knows.
 
It's easier for him though. They're anyway hibernating up north in Sweden at this time of the year, might as well help a bloke win an online Fantasy Draft.

And.. I´m really used to all the prejudices about us up north in Sweden! But thing is this time of the year is not my favourite, freezing outside. But in 20 days I will be in Las Palmas, can´t wait for it.