All-Time Fantasy Draft

[NM]

You can PM me mate. If I go offline I'll pass it on to Aldo JIC but will defo be online in a couple of hours or so.

I have his picks

Jake wanted to make sure this time that his choice couldn't have been picked by anyone else. Nice strategy.

 

[EDogen]

That's why I thought I could keep riding Effenberg, those without a German still needed various defenders and a LB in particular!

Effenberg was in my mind as a alternative for my empty midfield spot!

 

[antohan]

Effenberg was in my mind as a alternative for my empty midfield spot!

I did think you may sacrifice the German fullback for that, I was never going to let him slip through, the question was 7th or 8th relative to Vasovic. Stobzilla couldn't pick Vasovic and iso and paceme already had their CB pairs sorted. It was also sweet to screw Gio out of his classy partner for Kohler at the last minute

 

[EDogen]

I did think you may sacrifice the German fullback for that, I was never going to let him slip through, the question was 7th or 8th.

Maybe I would have done that yes. Now I have to get another midfielder but there is still good ones left.

 

[JakeC]

I actually have heard of him, I played a DB in fm with him in it.

One of the best full backs of his era, Paul Janes established a record for most German caps which wasn’t broken until 1970. Janes started out as a right half back, but during the 1934 World Cup he debuted as right back and stayed at that position for the rest of his career. He was injured during the 1936 Olympics and thus was spared of the embarrassing defeat of Germany by Norway. During the latter half of the 1930s, Germany possessed one of the strongest full back pairings in European football with Paul Janes on the right and Reinhold Münzenberg on the left side.

 

[antohan]

Maybe I would have done that yes. Now I have to get another midfielder but there is still good ones left.

Good thing I didn't let him slip again, Aldo has been on my back since the last loop desperate to get him on board

 

[Moby]

 

[JakeC]

He was actually the German captain, with 71 caps.

 

[antohan]

I actually have heard of him, I played a DB in fm with him in it.

Is there an FM classics option? Which one is it? Been off it since CM01-02 or so but would love to play that!

 

[Moby]

It's more of a custom database, which you have to download from various sites and copy it into the folder and play it. Basically simply a collection of legends made by some individual with all the stats input by him.

It gets a bit boring after a while. The last one I played had Pele and Cantona at AC Milan by default. In the end it is the same with different names and stats, and you cannot relive that time as you already know who is the best out there.

 

[antohan]

MJJ has until 08:04, on to Brwned then

Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi 4. Krol 5. Zanetti 6. Kocsis 7. Vidic
DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta, 4. Gascoigne 5. Makelele 6. McGrath 7. Vogts
KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik, 4. Sammer 5. Nedved 6. Valderrama 7. Banks
Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o, 4. Cannavaro 5. Coluna 6. Bremner 7. Carlos Alberto
NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens 3. Passarella 4. Boniek 5. Thuram 6. Tardelli 7. Carvalho
Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten 3. Robson 4. R Baggio 5. Charles 6. Tigana 7. Hierro
Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane 3. Falcão 4. Giggs 5. Matthews 6. Brehme 7. Trésor
MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha 3. Muller 4. Luis Suárez 5. Meazza 6. Schmeichel 7. Rui Costa
JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini 3. Deschamps 4. Gento 5. Stam 6. Law 7. Deco 8. Janes
mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov 3. Breitner 4. Jairzinho 5. Bergomi 6. Varela 7. Koeman 8. Marzolini
EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore 3. Redondo 4. Figo 5. Romario 6. Desailly 7. Dzajic 8. Schnellinger
Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi 3. Rivaldo 4. Kohler 5. Davids 6. Gentile 7. Moreno 8. Nordahl
Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard 3. Iniesta 4. Facchetti 5. Henry 6. R. Ferdinand 7. Effenberg 8. Vasovic
Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia) 3. Scholes 4. Souness 5. Savicevic 6. Cafu 7. Kubala 8. Van Nistlerooy
Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus 3. Santamaríá 4. Hansen 5. Hagi 6. Finney 7. Viera 8. Irwin
paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi 3. Voronin 4. Masopust 5. Batistuta 6. Gullit 7. Socrates 8. Amoros

 

[antohan]

I have his picks

Hope you weren't looking at any of them. Silly idea.

 

[NM]

Hope you weren't looking at any of them. Silly idea.

no. He knew what he was doing.

 

[NM]

to clarify - I've seen him but he trusted me and fair enough.

 

[JakeC]

so nobody heard of him?

 

[Moby]

I have now.

 

[antohan]

Thanks!

Interesting you say that I could add another AM, how would they line up in a formation?

Would this recieve too much criticism:?

Beck DM
AM------------Didi
Eusebio Kocsis​

With Didi and the other AM quite tucked in? I'm sure Didi played that role for a brazil though admittedly in a different set up overall...

Sorry, hadn't seen this. I meant Didi in a three with Beckenbauer and AN other sharing the defensive duties and another AM where you had Didi. I was specifically thinking about some of the great oldies that just went though.

 

[MJJ]

will pick within an hour, walking home now.

 

[JakeC]

-------Ronaldo-----Law
Gento--------------------RM
-------Deco---Deschamps
LB----Maldini-Stam-----Janes
--------------GK

If people don't rate Janes at all (He was fantastic) I may adopt a 3 at the back formation.

 

[MJJ]

My first defender(why are most of the good ones italian?)

Jose Nasazzi

 

[NM]

My first defender(why are most of the good ones italian?)

Jose Nasazzi

feck off! had my eye on him for later!!!

 

[antohan]

feck off! had my eye on him for later!!!

You mean as a sub? Nasazzi a sub for Ricardo Carvalho? Now I've heard it all.

 

[MJJ]

Why are you playing Garrincha on the left now? Oh well, when you see your rivals' fullbacks you can make up your mind.

I thought you meant to do that with Costa and that it meant you were going for Suarez doing a more defensive job. Edwards will need to be superhuman but the average cafite clearly thinks he was.

I think a 4-3-3 with costa,saurez and edwards can easily match up to most of the midfields. Am counting on the legend of edwards as thats why used a first time pick on him.

Got schmeichal who is one of the best GK ever so even if my defense is a bit below par(dont think so it will be, maybe a bit more unknown) he can make up for it.

Plus my entire midfield and attackers are all exceptional dribblers(except maybe muller), it will be near impossible to get the ball of them.

feck off! had my eye on him for later!!!

Just what I needed to make me feel better.

 

[antohan]

Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi 4. Krol 5. Zanetti 6. Kocsis 7. Vidic
DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta, 4. Gascoigne 5. Makelele 6. McGrath 7. Vogts
KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik, 4. Sammer 5. Nedved 6. Valderrama 7. Banks
Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o, 4. Cannavaro 5. Coluna 6. Bremner 7. Carlos Alberto
NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens 3. Passarella 4. Boniek 5. Thuram 6. Tardelli 7. Carvalho
Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten 3. Robson 4. R Baggio 5. Charles 6. Tigana 7. Hierro
Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane 3. Falcão 4. Giggs 5. Matthews 6. Brehme 7. Trésor
MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha 3. Muller 4. Luis Suárez 5. Meazza 6. Schmeichel 7. Rui Costa 8. Nasazzi
JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini 3. Deschamps 4. Gento 5. Stam 6. Law 7. Deco 8. Janes
mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov 3. Breitner 4. Jairzinho 5. Bergomi 6. Varela 7. Koeman 8. Marzolini
EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore 3. Redondo 4. Figo 5. Romario 6. Desailly 7. Dzajic 8. Schnellinger
Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi 3. Rivaldo 4. Kohler 5. Davids 6. Gentile 7. Moreno 8. Nordahl
Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard 3. Iniesta 4. Facchetti 5. Henry 6. R. Ferdinand 7. Effenberg 8. Vasovic
Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia) 3. Scholes 4. Souness 5. Savicevic 6. Cafu 7. Kubala 8. Van Nistlerooy
Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus 3. Santamaríá 4. Hansen 5. Hagi 6. Finney 7. Viera 8. Irwin
paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi 3. Voronin 4. Masopust 5. Batistuta 6. Gullit 7. Socrates 8. Amoros

 

[MJJ]

Nasazzi is regarded by many as Uruguay's greatest ever football player. He was known as "El Gran Mariscal" (The Great Marshal) and had already won the gold medal at the 1924 and 1928 Olympic Games, as well as the Copa América in 1923, 1924 and 1926, by the time of the first World Cup.

And he has a title named after him.

 

[NM]

You mean as a sub? Nasazzi a sub for Ricardo Carvalho? Now I've heard it all.

Is Brwned around? Also, He may have started - I just thought Carvalho and Passarella's play are very complementary. That and some cnut took Vidic, my favorite player

 

[Brwned]

I'll take Danny McGrain.

Been mulling over this one for a long time but with Matthews' lack of defensive nous I need an assured presence behind him and this man just oozes reliability. Top class fullback year in, year out and yet another winner. Had the touch and balance to beat most opposition fullbacks but unlike most pretenders these days, he had the delivery to back up the approach play and was an absolute rock in defence. Scottish Cafu and in my view the ideal fullback really - few right backs struck the balance between attack and defence much better than this man. Sir Alex named him in his post-'75 British dream team alongside team-mate Giggs.

Spoiler

Peter Shilton, Danny McGrain, Tony Adams, Terry Butcher, Steve Nicol, Paul Gascoigne, Bryan Robson, Beckham, Ian Rush, Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs

"Danny McGrain – One of the best full-backs ever produced by Scotland. Brilliant in every facet of his trade."

Sir Alex Ferguson

Danny McGrain was widely regarded as the best right-back in the world during the mid-to-late 1970s.

***
McGrain Trésor *** Brehme
Keane Falcão
Matthews Di Stéfano Giggs
***​

Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi 4. Krol 5. Zanetti 6. Kocsis 7. Vidic
DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta, 4. Gascoigne 5. Makelele 6. McGrath 7. Vogts
KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik, 4. Sammer 5. Nedved 6. Valderrama 7. Banks
Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o, 4. Cannavaro 5. Coluna 6. Bremner 7. Carlos Alberto
NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens 3. Passarella 4. Boniek 5. Thuram 6. Tardelli 7. Carvalho
Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten 3. Robson 4. R Baggio 5. Charles 6. Tigana 7. Hierro
Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane 3. Falcão 4. Giggs 5. Matthews 6. Brehme 7. Trésor 8. McGrain
MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha 3. Muller 4. Luis Suárez 5. Meazza 6. Schmeichel 7. Rui Costa 8. Nasazzi
JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini 3. Deschamps 4. Gento 5. Stam 6. Law 7. Deco 8. Janes
mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov 3. Breitner 4. Jairzinho 5. Bergomi 6. Varela 7. Koeman 8. Marzolini
EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore 3. Redondo 4. Figo 5. Romario 6. Desailly 7. Dzajic 8. Schnellinger
Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi 3. Rivaldo 4. Kohler 5. Davids 6. Gentile 7. Moreno 8. Nordahl
Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard 3. Iniesta 4. Facchetti 5. Henry 6. R. Ferdinand 7. Effenberg 8. Vasovic
Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia) 3. Scholes 4. Souness 5. Savicevic 6. Cafu 7. Kubala 8. Van Nistlerooy
Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus 3. Santamaríá 4. Hansen 5. Hagi 6. Finney 7. Viera 8. Irwin
paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi 3. Voronin 4. Masopust 5. Batistuta 6. Gullit 7. Socrates 8. Amoros

 

[NM]

Is cutch around? I have mine and Thisistheone's pick ready

 

[NM]

anyone i can PM mine and thisistheone's picks to?

 

[Brwned]

Go ahead and PM them on to me.

 

[NM]

PM'd - take a look sent a questions as well

 

[antohan]

And he has a title named after him.

Nasazzi's baton

It's like something out of RAWK that, "we beat the league winners so we are the best in the country" type stuff.

Whoever beats the World Champion takes up Nasazzi's baton, when they lose it passes on and so on. Has ended up in the strangest places and has given dozens of countries the honour of being able to claim that, at some point, even for the briefest of times, they were World Champions.

 

[antohan]

Is Brwned around? Also, He may have started - I just thought Carvalho and Passarella's play are very complementary. That and some cnut took Vidic, my favorite player

So when Passarella decides to charge forward and join the attack, Carvalho is left behind covering. Great positional sense and all, but imagine the joy most forwards from this draft would have taking him on at full pelt.

 

[antohan]

I'll take Danny McGrain.

Good player and all, but quoting Sir Alex and Gio? Seriously?

 

[NM]

So when Passarella decides to charge forward and join the attack, Carvalho is left behind covering. Great positional sense and all, but imagine the joy most forwards from this draft would have taking him on at full pelt.

To be fair, Ronaldo didn't have much joy against him, so I'd be ok with that. I think Carvalho's reading of the game, aerial ability and good passing made the cnut next to him look like a superstar. He's exactly the type of player I'd want with a Passarella.

That being said, he is also a bit of a cnut and has a mean streak in him. Great defender IMO

 

[NM]

Where's cutch - i have my pick ready and have PM'd it to brwned in case I fall asleep

 

[antohan]

To be fair, Ronaldo didn't have much joy against him, so I'd be ok with that. I think Carvalho's reading of the game, aerial ability and good passing made the cnut next to him look like a superstar. He's exactly the type of player I'd want with a Passarella.

That being said, he is also a bit of a cnut and has a mean streak in him. Great defender IMO

You didn't get my point. Terry never went off on one the way Passarella did. The guy next to Passarella must be ready to sweep up behind him when he goes all gung-ho. Carvalho doesn't look to me like someone who sweeps up, doesn't really have some key attributes for it. Neither did Vidic, mind. You would have the same problem with both of those.

 

[Brwned]

Good player and all, but quoting Sir Alex and Gio? Seriously?

The Scots are known to be very impartial...

 

[NM]

You didn't get my point. Terry never went off on one the way Passarella did. The guy next to Passarella must be ready to sweep up behind him when he goes all gung-ho. Carvalho doesn't look to me like someone who sweeps up, doesn't really have some key attributes for it. Neither did Vidic, mind. You would have the same problem with both of those.

To be fair, Passarella going off is also a strength - don't look at it only as a weakness. And tbh - I think he does. Great reader of the game, not too fast or slow, and not given credit because of the medias ******** over Terry at the time.

That along with Thuram at RB will easily cover it IMO

 

[NM]

why is wank fest censored? wtf caf?