Yes, that's what you've set up to do. But without the ball it is all a bit pointless.
You simply aren't getting enough of the ball, that is plain for anyone to see.
All-time Fantasy Draft - antohan v Thisistheone
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Yes, that's what you've set up to do. But without the ball it is all a bit pointless.
You simply aren't getting enough of the ball, that is plain for anyone to see.
The only one person of the same nationality rule is rubbish by the way
Makes the whole thing far more interesting and challenging.
Good point. Weah fed off Baggio superbly. Maradona's passing would also bring the best out of him.
A big part of the fun is the drafting and the thinking ahead to build your side. That makes it a lot more interesting for those participating and makes it more likely that you don't end up with superteams that no one can actually tell from each other.
Take Roberto Carlos for instance, he didn't even get drafted, while many would happily take him all the way to the final.
It somewhat makes it more feasible that oldies stay over the course of the game as well, which is not a bad thing either.
Nah, I disagree, it makes it silly and unrealistic.
Most of us in the draft disagree. It made it more fun - which is the point for us. Otherwise it would just be full of players from the big countries.
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It is an all time fantasy draft though. So what if it was full of players from the big teams? The idea is surely to pick the best team you can.
Silly and unrealistic?! Never expected that. Care to elaborate? How is it more silly than not having a nationality rule?
Well in reality you don't have any such rule. The three foreigners tripe went out years ago and nothing of the sort has been seen again as the idea was draconian.
Pick the best players of all time. Simple.
There was space for him to run onto, that's what counterattacking players thrive in with a good passer behind them. You have pretty much everyone bar Garrincha playing through the middle.
I know, I know, Cruyff is meant to be playing wide. Without an ego he would, and it would be perfect, but he won't be drifting out there making himself available for others to run the game. No, he will want to be where the action is, dictating it, and will inevitably end up stuck in that central area with Maradona, Charlton and Weah.
Movement and creating the space to operate in win you games. I have it, you don't.
In reality Bobby Charlton wouldn't be playing in the same team as George Weah, reality isn't really relevant in this draft. Anyway, let's keep this thread about the match up, all participants and most observers agrees that the nationality rule made the whole thing a lot more fun and interesting (more research, more scope to learn about players, more tacticall thought behind the drafting) but you're entitled to your opinion of course.
I would love to see how much stick antohan would've given Inzaghi if he actually was in this game!
You probably couldn't run it with so many teams though and it would very quickly create a situation where certain teams are unstoppable, be it through drafting order or luck of the draw.
Cutch has looked the part from the beginning, but fecking up his nationality planning (e.g. getting two keepers, both German
) has stopped him from being unplayable.Well set up a draft and do it. Or at least take it out of this thread, which is for the game.
The nationality constraints has made it far better tbh. Made it a lot more interesting/challenging
Cutch has looked the part from the beginning, but fecking up his nationality planning (e.g. getting two keepers, both German
Lesson learnt
Loads, no doubt!
The main thing is both Ronaldo and Messi were available and I could see TITO being both stronger and more fluid with them on board. Yet he shows up with Weah. In fairness, I put the laughing my tits comment assuming he wasn't going to play and acknowledging Ronaldo as a handful but with Garrincha's absence as a silver-lining.
I don't understand you guys. This tin pot rule clearly hinders the game. Look at this match up, as already pointed out we have Carlos Alberto sat on the bench and Denis Irwin playing out of position. All because only one Brazillian is allowed. Nonsense.
If you want an all time draft more than one player from each nation should be allowed. Some of the best link ups have been from players of the same nation. Some of you are obsessed with talking about players disliking each other and not being able to play with one another in your write ups, using the same to point score against the opposition (which is also nonsense by the way) but in the same breath you are not allowing some of the greatest partnerships in the game to flourish because of a silly rule.
The fans want the best players on the pitch.
If you want an all time draft more than one player from each nation should be allowed. Some of the best link ups have been from players of the same nation. Some of you are obsessed with talking about players disliking each other and not being able to play with one another in your write ups, using the same to point score against the opposition (which is also nonsense by the way) but in the same breath you are not allowing some of the greatest partnerships in the game to flourish because of a silly rule.
The fans want the best players on the pitch.
OK, I've let that little arrows and wingbacks experiment run for too long (Aldo was telling me to stop it at 6-2!)
Clearly not popular! Switching back to my more familiar setup, although I thought the other was a better indicator of people's roles and movement.
But no, clearly it is better to just chuck names on a pitch and let people imagine whatever they want.
Clearly not popular! Switching back to my more familiar setup, although I thought the other was a better indicator of people's roles and movement.
But no, clearly it is better to just chuck names on a pitch and let people imagine whatever they want.
He wasn't very prolific at all. 2nd best season earned him 14 league goals. I think this one great season from him overshadows his career and paints him in an otherwise better picture. I'd have Nistelrooy over him despite the latter not having gained any personal rewards. But I do believe that had Weah been Dutch he wouldn't have either.
Still not sure about the cohesiveness of the attacking unit. It might not matter at all as one of the three could win the game on his own. Or maybe not. Beckenbauer could completely neutralize one of them for better or for worse. So for me it really comes down to the striker. The difference is very little. I wouldn't bet money on the game if this was real.
Glad you mentioned that. I seemed to be the only one having a fair recollection of this chap and whatever I say is obviously "biased". Thought twice about making that comment on him getting the award because he was African, a comment which would get a lot of support in a normal thread, but obviously not here.
I do think one side has an evidently better defensive setup, more ball recovery, a fluid attacking transition and two phenomenal and prolific goalscorers up front.
I don't think a single one of those statements applies to TITOs team TBH.
I disagree totally with The Religion.
The Nationality rule has made the whole draft much more fun and interesting.
The Nationality rule has made the whole draft much more fun and interesting.
Let's drop the subject. He is looking at it from an outsider/voter perspective with an occasional interest in the matchups and I can see how it may not be that engrossing or attractive from that perspective.
I'm glad you chaps liked the rule and have enjoyed it more as a result
Since I'm just about winning, taking a 1-0 lead, Weah now becomes even more important. You need to chase the game more which leaves more space in behind for Weah to run into with Maradona pulling the strings central, and having the best possible options to his left (Cruyff) and to his right (Garrincha).
Maradona's having a field day from here in.
And Cruyff, the most intelligent footballer around aka pythagoras in boots, will be perfect to deal with this current score-line.
Maradona's having a field day from here in.
And Cruyff, the most intelligent footballer around aka pythagoras in boots, will be perfect to deal with this current score-line.
Good try. In my mind there's no chance you are winning this game and even if you scored first I would keep at it. No need to go all gung-ho. I have a good setup to control the game and win it.
In that scenario it is actually you who should be considering getting hold of the bloody ball for once by strengthening your midfield.
In that scenario it is actually you who should be considering getting hold of the bloody ball for once by strengthening your midfield.
Am I the only one who thinks Eto'o at his peak is a far better Number 9 and would be a way better choice for Thisistheone's team compared to Weah? I always thought Eto'o is underrated. He was terrific in every big game he played, imo. Really don't get why he's on the bench.
I don't really agree but it is a great option.
Luis Enrique for Garrincha and Irwin for CA is another to consider a bit later I think.
I don't either. TITOs views on Eto'o are a mystery to me. He picked him in the third round, then benched him for someone he picked in the 12th round.
He probably sees him the way I see Weah and decided he was the wrong man for the job. He needed a classic No. 9, you see?
Weah, the classic No. 9 who would do a better job than Pelé. You couldn´t make it up.
I would have played Eto'o, Enrique and Alberto
Yeah, but that would be admitting I'm shafting him down that flank you see? Much better to ignore it and get all the Garrincha salivating going. He pretty much admits it in his write-up!
Thisistheone said:
Thought about it, knew it was the right call, but didn't want to highlight that weakness so decided to stay weak and hope no one picked on it.
1107 views, 21 votes. COME ON!
Well did Milan not win the league with 34 goals during the previous campaign? Although I can envisage him doing a competent job as a rounded forward in this game, it's fair to say Weah won his world title in a brief strikers blip between the slide away of Romario and Baggio and before the emergence of Ronaldo.
Exactly. And yes, Milan were set up very negatively, it helps explain his scoring record (although it was no better anywhere else), but mostly explains why he was the man for Milan: they were a negative team which relied on the counter, and Baggio playing Weah through in acres of space was a valid strategy.
That is nothing like what TITO is playing at here (bar the minor issue of getting the ball to begin with). It really is a fantasy team which can't realistically work well in practice.
Everyone keeps admitting it in roundabout ways (e.g. "not sure it works, but with so many great players one is bound to come up with something") yet the votes keep piling up against a side which is quite clearly better set up from back to front while also having players who could "come up with something".
How come TITO is playing a semi without winning the quarters yet?
So technically my lads are still on the other pitch playing KM?
Ok I'm in trouble here
They've been playing for over a week now, they are completely knackered mate! Of course you are in trouble
Thank you gamma1, I was fed up with being stuck at 9!!!!