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Pepe: Real Madrid players unhappy with Ronaldo disrespect
tribalfootball.com - July 29, 2008

Pepe admits Real Madrid's players are getting fed-up with the constant transfer speculation over Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo.
The defender explained: "We need to recognise that Madrid has its squad and that the players here have their quality.

"There is a little disrespect going on because a team does not rely on one player, even if he is very good. Pele and Maradona won major games, but they had help from their peers."
 
Kelvin said:
Pepe: Real Madrid players unhappy with Ronaldo disrespect
tribalfootball.com - July 29, 2008

Pepe admits Real Madrid's players are getting fed-up with the constant transfer speculation over Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo.
The defender explained: "We need to recognise that Madrid has its squad and that the players here have their quality.

"There is a little disrespect going on because a team does not rely on one player, even if he is very good. Pele and Maradona won major games, but they had help from their peers."
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WTF! He's disrespectful to RM?! Who the feck do these guys think they are? As if all players in the world ultimately owe loyalty to the great Real Madrid.

God I hope we draw these wankers in the CL this time around.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
WTF! He's disrespectful to RM?! Who the feck do these guys think they are? As if all players in the world ultimately owe loyalty to the great Real Madrid.

God I hope we draw these wankers in the CL this time around.
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It's a mistranslation if it came out sounding like that. He was saying the constant press speculation, the nagging at press conferences etc was making it sound like Ron is the only thing that matters. They're fed up of being ignored.

Aw bless.
 
jojojo said:
It's a mistranslation if it came out sounding like that. He was saying the constant press speculation, the nagging at press conferences etc was making it sound like Ron is the only thing that matters. They're fed up of being ignored.

Aw bless.
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Hi jojojo; have you discovered anything re the outcome of last night's board meeting at the Bernabeu?
 
The Spanish press is fun today. The anti-Calderon wing of the board are getting more confident. Calderon has told them that he'll fight to sign Ron right until the deadline and that the 70m loan he'd arranged was for Ron only. Apparently he's now pretty much on his own in that stance. Even Mijatovic is advising Schuster to look after Robinho.

The press are convinced that Ron has been given an ultimatum - a blatant public statement this week of his intentions to leave United, join Madrid and to go into dispute with United to get it - in which case they'll try to open negotiations with United, or else they give up. Calderon apparently agrees with all of that except for the "give up" bit.

Calderon thinks United will negotiate if Ron goes public. Other board members think they won't and that things could turn very ugly, very fast with United going for punitive damages against Madrid for encouraging a player to break his contract.

http://www.defensacentral.com/noticias/ampliar/15713/a-por-ellos/1includes this section:
Calderon trusts that he'll get the statement from the player that he wants to leave and that this will force United, but recent events are not optimistic. Ever since the Portuguese left for the United States, contact with Real Madrid has only been with Jorge Mendes, his representative, whereas prior communication with the player himself was very smooth and continuous. Something that suggests Ronaldo is backing off, little by little, from his desire to dress in white immediately.

But whether they're in a position to know any of that - I doubt.

Incidentally Marca's front page is that it's Calderon Vs SAF now and that both men are prepared to go all in.
http://www.marca.com/primeras/08/07/0729.html
That has Calderon telling his board that it's Cristiano or nobody and SAF telling the Glazers that if they let Ronaldo go to Madrid, he's off!
 
You have to laugh at Calderon even trying to prepare a bid. Can't he get it in to his thick skull, that its going to be rejected
 
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It Is Ronaldo Or Nobody - Calderón
Ramón Calderón is set to upset Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster after telling the club's directors that if Cristiano Ronaldo does not join then no signings will be made.

Los Merengues' chief is prepared to stake his reputation on prising the Portuguese star away from Manchester United and that could cause friction with the German trainer, according to Marca.

Schuster has reportedly asked Calderón and sporting director Predrag Mijatovic to look into the possibility of signing other players instead and thought he had an agreement.

"Either Cristiano Ronaldo comes or nobody does," the Spanish sports daily quoted him as stating.

Rafael Van der Vaart and David Villa are two players that the coach wants, but Madrid are unlikely to make a second move for the Dutchman or lodge a bid for the Spaniard now.

It will come as a huge blow because Schuster knows that he he needs two or three new faces to freshen up his squad, despite the fact that they won the title last term.

Calderón promised to sign Kaká and Cesc Fàbregas in his pre-election manifesto but failed to land either and will incur the wrath of the fans if he does sign Ronaldo.

Last summer the supporters made their feelings known during the introduction of Arjen Robben's presentation as they chanted to Kaká.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=795993
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Their reputation for being pseudo-fascist, illegally-funded, player-tapping-up cnuts?

Not very hard to make a mockery of that reputation!
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pseudo-fascist? They had that real goose-stepping full-flavoured fascism with Franco helping them out.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Thanks for that. But why can't we just upload from our hard drives? The FAQ on the Caf claims we can, and gives instructions how to do it; does everyone else have the same problems I have?
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Are you using firefox? Try Internet Explorer instead.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Thanks for that. But why can't we just upload from our hard drives? The FAQ on the Caf claims we can, and gives instructions how to do it; does everyone else have the same problems I have?
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Yes I have the same problems. I do use Firefox though so I will try in I/E.
 
KeyserSoze said:
This thread has no more legs.

Even BahamaRed is not posting in here anymore.

Let it go lads! :smirk:
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Still around Keyser but have limited access and am tied up with this darts tournament.

Check us out at www.dartswdf.com I'm at the top......

Anyhow, like this stuff from Giggs......

Giggsy Sums Up The Ronaldo Dilemma

July 29, 2008


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United legend Ryan Giggs has been airing his opinion on the trend of footballers who jump ship for ‘minor’ increments in their wage:
“Many players want to make as much money as they can and change teams for ten grand. How is that going to make much difference to their lives?”
Whilst Giggs has a valid point - remarkably, 10 grand is nothing to your average Premier League footballer - he continues to, almost unwittingly, summarise why many foreign players are prepared to pimp themselves around from season to season:
‘Foreign players always have their home somewhere else, so they are going to have their eyes on going back.
‘But for the likes of me, Gary Neville and Paul Scholes, this is our home.’
Unless your local team happens to be the perenially successful, globally supported Leviathan that is Manchester United, then its entirely understandable - though not entirely excusable - that you might consider playing at another mammoth side like (hawks up phlegm..) Real Madrid or Barcelona or AC Milan.
Ronaldo has no natural affinity with Manchester United or Manchester, unlike those afore-mentioned Fergie Fledglings-become-Fergie-fogeys.
It’s a no-brainer that (Greater) Mancunian talent, especially those who have grown up supporting the club, would rather take, say £50K a week to play for United than £60K a week to play for second-raters like Newcastle.
Mind you it did take Wes Brown a while to remember that.
For Ronaldo though, or we dare say for Anderson, Tevez, Nani and so on, things are different. If someone offers to trump United’s wage offer by an extra 20 or 30 grand a week, the temptation to consider a move must be overwhelming - especially when things aren’t going well. (Thankfully not often these days - at least on the pitch.)
As long as United continue to draw in premium overseas talent they face the challenge of not only satisfying their financial and footballing expectations but inculcating them with an understanding of what the club, the city and the region represents.
United have to try harder to make our foreign sons proud United fans and proud Mancunians. Or they have to try harder to find, develop and retain a more significant number of local lads.
 
"Calderon trusts that he'll get the statement from the player that he wants to leave and that this will force United, but recent events are not optimistic. Ever since the Portuguese left for the United States, contact with Real Madrid has only been with Jorge Mendes, his representative, whereas prior communication with the player himself was very smooth and continuous. Something that suggests Ronaldo is backing off, little by little, from his desire to dress in white immediately."


This worries me slightly. Is this why Calderon has been so adamant he would get his man? In direct contact all along?
 
Real Madrid players irritated by Ronaldo transfer saga


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Real Madrid players have become frustrated with the constant speculation over Cristiano Ronaldo´s, seen here in June 2008, possible transfer from Manchester United which Spanish media reported Tuesday had become bogged down.MADRID (AFP) - Real Madrid players have become frustrated with the constant speculation over Cristiano Ronaldo's possible transfer from Manchester United which Spanish media reported Tuesday had become bogged down.

"There is a little disrespect going on because a team does not rely on one player, even if he is very good. Pele and Maradona won major games, but they had help from their peers," Real's Portuguese midfielder Pepe said in an interview with Spanish sports daily AS.

Real directors concluded at a meeting on Monday night that it would be "very difficult" to bring Ronaldo to the Spanish side for the 85 million euros (134 million US dollars) which they were offering, the newspaper added.

Some Real directors, meanwhile, are reluctant to fork over a small fortune to sign the 23-year-old, preferring instead to bring Valencia' David Villa or Hamburg's Rafael van der Vaart to the club, rival paper Marca reported.

Ronaldo, who is recovering from an operation on his right ankle carried out earlier this month, has remained silent in recent days over his plans.

He has persistently spoken of how it would be a "dream" to play for Real.

Ronaldo, who scored an impressive 42 goals last term as United won both the Premier League and Champions League, is under contract at Old Trafford until 2012 and the English side have made it clear they will not let him go.

He signed a new five-year contract with Manchester in April 2007 after being linked with a move to Spanish giants Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Ronaldo joined the English side in August 2003 from Portuguese first division side Sporting Lisbon on a five-year contract which he extended by a further two years in November 2005.
 
Rednails said:
"Calderon trusts that he'll get the statement from the player that he wants to leave and that this will force United, but recent events are not optimistic. Ever since the Portuguese left for the United States, contact with Real Madrid has only been with Jorge Mendes, his representative, whereas prior communication with the player himself was very smooth and continuous. Something that suggests Ronaldo is backing off, little by little, from his desire to dress in white immediately."


This worries me slightly. Is this why Calderon has been so adamant he would get his man? In direct contact all along?
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Or maybe he has gone quiet since SAF's visit.:D
 
Cantona is a red

Man Utd legend Cantona: Ronaldo bloody stupid to leave
tribalfooball.com - July 29, 2008
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Manchester United legend Eric Cantona has told Cristiano Ronaldo he would be "bloody stupid" if he was to quit the club for Real Madrid.

"Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world right now," Cantona said in the Daily Star. "He is a genuine artist.
"His style of play fits Manchester United's very well, and the reverse is also true. It is pleasing to see such harmony.
"As for him wanting to join Real Madrid, I don't really know his personality. Maybe he has valid reasons that drive him to leave United.
"He is still young, and so maybe he wants to take on fresh challenges. I can understand if this is the reason why he wants to leave for Real.
"But if he were to leave because of something else, I think he would be doing something absolutely stupid."
 
Rednails said:
Or maybe he has gone quiet since SAF's visit.:D
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Doubt theres any truth in that, the site or paper whatever it was like jojojo said are not going to know what is going on and are just guessing.
95% what is written in the papers is rubbish, even quotes can't be trusted as we saw with Tevez
 
Rednails said:
Why is he coming back early? Is he going to do as Calderon suggests and 'go nuclear'. If its going to happen, it will happen soon.
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He is not coming back early. SAF said in his interview last Saturday that he was coming back in eight days
 
By Henry Winter
Last Updated: 10:02AM BST 29 Jul 2008

The RAF flattened 85 per cent of the town in 1943, seeking to incapacitate the U-boat pens.

To the delight of English tourists last Friday, a VW Golf parked outside the well-preserved U-boat pens boasted the German number plate SUNK 7595. For football fans, more diverting sights lay a 15-minute drive away. Hidden in the verdant countryside outside Saint-Nazaire is the hotel where England were based during the 1997 Tournoi de France and the 1998 World Cup. Two large framed photographs hang in reception, both featuring Glenn Hoddle's squads gathered in the sunshine on the front lawn.

In the 1997 snap, a booted Paul Gascoigne prepares to head off for Tournoi training in nearby La Baule. Although his picture and signed shirt remained at the hotel, Gascoigne was famously omitted for England's World Cup visit. A succession of off-field misdemeanours pushed Hoddle too far.

Pictured in the talented 1998 congregation are Paul Scholes, standing self-consciously at the front, with Tony Adams, chomping on a lollipop, behind him. Graeme Le Saux smiles. Gary Neville organises. Michael Owen exudes poise. A floppy-haired David Beckham lingers in the background, for once, almost eclipsed by David Seaman, Teddy Sheringham, Darren Anderton and Rob Lee.

Glimpsing these pictures last week, it was impossible for the mind not to muse on the career choices of Gascoigne and Beckham, and wonder whether the little grey cells in Cristiano Ronaldo's head are all in full working order. As Manchester United's Footballer of the Year relaxes on his sunlounger in LA, pondering whether he should push to leave for Real Madrid this summer or next, he should consider the stories of Gascoigne and Beckham.

Working with Sir Alex Ferguson is an education and privilege that should not be forsaken lightly.

Gascoigne's career could have produced so much more, in both glory and satisfaction, if he had come under Ferguson's strong guidance, as was possible on two occasions. As emotional a character as the Geordie might have been rescued by such an experienced man-manager as Ferguson, a master in knowing when to resort to carrot or stick, praise or hairdryer.

Beckham's career never recovered from leaving United, barring an eventual La Liga medal at Real Madrid en route to the backwaters of LA Galaxy last year (while Ryan Giggs collected his second Champions League this summer). Ten years ago, Ferguson rallied around Beckham after he was dismissed on England duty in St-Etienne.

Those coveted stars such as Ronaldo contemplating transfers, sooner or later, should choose their managers before lifestyle and salary. Still only 23, Ronaldo can continue to mature under Ferguson, whereas at Madrid he will be expected to produce magic, game in game out, for Bernd Schuster, who cannot afford star signings having quiet performances. If Ronaldo goes missing against Barcelona, he will find Real's coach and supporters less forgiving.

Yet the suggestion that Ronaldo should "give it one more year'' at Old Trafford is also unsatisfactory. His mind would be elsewhere. Ronaldo is either fully committed to the champions or not. There can be no halfway house and one of football's most sensible tenets is never to hold on to an unhappy player.

If Ronaldo's heart lies in Castille, then United may be better off without a disaffected employee moping around. Yet one has to wonder about the mindset of a player prepared to trade professional development under a manager like Ferguson for the deliver-or-be-damned bullring of the Bernabeu. As they showed when missing out on Gascoigne and losing that other Saint-Nazaire pin-up Beckham, Manchester United will survive.
 
Rednails said:
Yet the suggestion that Ronaldo should "give it one more year'' at Old Trafford is also unsatisfactory. His mind would be elsewhere. Ronaldo is either fully committed to the champions or not. There can be no halfway house and one of football's most sensible tenets is never to hold on to an unhappy player.
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This is what keeps nagging in the back of my mind. It looks like he is staying now, but if we are going to have to go through the same shit next summer - and allusions to it throughout the year, then it leaves a bad taste, for me. Unless he came out and said he has had a chance to think and has decided that Madrid can feck right off - that he will play out his contract and hopefully another one and then go back to Portugal - then it is always going to feel like he has one eye on the exit.

In that way it is different to after the world cup. It feels different.
 
Beckham didn't make a bad career decision, Sir Alex and the club wanted to sell him, he didn't ask to leave or try engineer a move to Madrid. And he'd won 6 league titles, fa cups and a champions league with us, so its not like he'll look back on his career with many regrets.
 
You never know what went on behind closed doors but at the time I felt Beckham wanted to go at least as much as SAF wanted to get rid of him. Or, put another way, I felt SAF only wanted to get rid of him once he questioned Beckham's commitment. Ergo, if Becks had wanted to stay he would have been able to.
 
BahamaRed said:
BUT.......................

WHY ISN'T HE SAYING ANYTHING?

Disturbing.
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At a guess, SAF's parting words after the Lisbon meeting were don't talk to the press and with the exception of the ESPN interview that he was presumably contractually obliged to do (and which we assume, but don't know, came after that meeting) he hasn't talked to them. Not even a response to, "How's the ankle?" "How was dinner?" "Do you like American girls?" "Do you speak English?" from the paparazzi in LA.

At a guess, he's been given the advice that "if you're in a hole - stop digging" and he's paused to think.

As for is it being over - no, I don't think it is. Calderon has to throw everything at getting a "public declaration" and he'll doutbtless be sending Ron (hopefully via Mendes) every threat and inducement he can think of, plus a few taunts about chickening out. I don't know how stubborn, fed-up or angry Ron is right now - but I guess it could still all be in the balance.

Hopefully Ron's realised that he's got everything to lose from a confrontation with United - particularly if United stand firm. Calderon might want to fight to the bitter end, but once it gets bitter (and it could) I think the rest of the Madrid board will be less enthusiastic.

I still think the most likely outcome is Ron'll repeat (to SAF) that he wants to leave, but will agree to honour his contract. Not pretty, but professional.
 
Ixion said:
Beckham didn't make a bad career decision, Sir Alex and the club wanted to sell him, he didn't ask to leave or try engineer a move to Madrid. And he'd won 6 league titles, fa cups and a champions league with us, so its not like he'll look back on his career with many regrets.
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Nobody can force you to go. A transfer is a two way thing. Look at Ole for example. Beckham has since spoken about how he sees us equal to Madrid and its quite clear that he wanted to play for Madrid
 
Rednails said:
By Henry Winter
Last Updated: 10:02AM BST 29 Jul 2008
Yet the suggestion that Ronaldo should "give it one more year'' at Old Trafford is also unsatisfactory. His mind would be elsewhere. Ronaldo is either fully committed to the champions or not. There can be no halfway house and one of football's most sensible tenets is never to hold on to an unhappy player.
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The question is how unhappy he'll be once he's actually playing again.

If Ronaldo's heart lies in Castille, then United may be better off without a disaffected employee moping around. Yet one has to wonder about the mindset of a player prepared to trade professional development under a manager like Ferguson for the deliver-or-be-damned bullring of the Bernabeu. As they showed when missing out on Gascoigne and losing that other Saint-Nazaire pin-up Beckham, Manchester United will survive.
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And I wonder if it's exactly that bullring atmosphere that he's craving. Maybe he doesn't want to get comfortable - craving something different as opposed to better. Maybe he needs a bit of fear to drive him.
 
Because Ronnie isn't talking the rest of the team are still having to expend energy thinking about him......selfish

Van der Sar: Ronaldo would be a madman to leave 'great' United


By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 4:41 PM on 29th July 2008

Edwin van der Sar can see no reason why Cristiano Ronaldo would want to leave Manchester United.

Van der Sar has been an interested observer most of the summer as the Ronaldo saga has rumbled on.

At one point it seemed the winger was certain to leave for Real Madrid, only for the persistence of Sir Alex Ferguson to halt such talk to an extent that the smart money is on Ronaldo staying where he is.

After two decades at the highest level, Van der Sar has a vast amount of experience under his belt, and his instinct tells him Ronaldo would be better advised to remain at Old Trafford.

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'There have been a lot of things said and it is a very personal situation but we have a great team here, we play in a great stadium, with great fans and we have an opportunity to win more,' said the 37-year-old.

'It is not that the team is going backwards. We have other trophies to play for, like the Super Cup and Intercontinental Cup. You don't get the chance to play in those competitions very often because you need to win the Champions League in order to qualify.

'In my opinion, being at Manchester United is a great way to play at the highest level and win trophies with a team that is very closely knitted together.

'Cristiano also has a contract here. Sometimes things change but we have a good squad here without any question.'

As Ronaldo is currently in the United States on holiday, recovering from an ankle operation which will keep him out of action until October, Van der Sar will not be seeing him for a while.

After returning from his summer break on Friday, the former Ajax goalkeeper has already bumped into a few of his team-mates from the Champions League win over Chelsea, with the rest due into United's Carrington HQ as preparations for the defence of their European and Premier League trophies intensifies.

Van der Sar is likely to feature for 45 minutes in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's testimonial against Espanyol on Saturday, then play the full game on August 6 when a Juventus side containing Alessandro del Piero, David Trezeguet, Gianluigi Buffon and Pavel Nedved come to Old Trafford.
 
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