He was improving more and more, especially in the 05-06 season where he was showing much more end product. Anyway, even if he hadn't, what lead you to the conclusion that he never would improve in the future?
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He was improving more and more, especially in the 05-06 season where he was showing much more end product. Anyway, even if he hadn't, what lead you to the conclusion that he never would improve in the future?
I said that too. But his rise was sudden and it all started after our 0-1 loase at home to Arsenal. He tried to dribble the ball out of the dangerzone and paid the price.
It's after that he started playing very well.
Its all very sad. Really taken the gloss off our amazing double.
I don't follow England at all. I was 'hating on him' because he was extremely disrespectful to Sir Alex, and to Manchester United by flaunting himself around to Real Madrid, like he has done again this summer.
The large majority of your comments were criticising Ronaldo for the Rooney incident. You even started the thread and even got in to a debate about people who said Rooney was responsible for his own actions, claiming Ronaldo turned referee. Sorry but that sounds like England fan to me. If you were angry with Ronaldo for him 'being disrespectful to Sir Alex' or 'flaunting himself around to Real Madrid' then why did you start the thread straight after the incident? Coincidence? I think not
It is disappointing but it hasn't ruined our success last season. Not for me anyway.
PS: The 'fans' who were protesting about Ronaldo are media whores.
He was improving more and more, especially in the 05-06 season where he was showing much more end product. Anyway, even if he hadn't, what lead you to the conclusion that he never would improve in the future?
Considering what he was like in his 1st season, 2 years down the line he hadn't shown that much improvement.
In 06/07 he really turned it up, and I'm delighted he did. We might not have won anything the past 2 seasons if he hadn't.
The main point of that thread however was his twatish behaviour, which many seemed to accept...well, the club and Sir Alex are having to put up with it again.
Do people actually take into consideration Sir Alex when accepting Ronaldos behaviour this summer? This is a man who has had a very long season, taking us to only our 3rd ever European cup, and a 17th League Title...at feckING RETIREMENT AGE. DOES THE MAN NOT DESERVE A feckING BREAK WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THIS ABSOLUTE SHIT FROM RONALDO???!
I started a thread, like many others did.
They were merged and I was credited with starting it.
And trust me, I don't follow England at all.
Definately not ruined it. Maybe when Uniteds back playing, we can forget all this bullshit. Just finished the season review today, and what a season it was!
This is why Sir Alex should serve Ronaldo with the hairdryer, and a boot in the head before everything is ok
Either way, 12 goals for a 21 year old winger which were his stats in the 05-06 season were not to be laughed at or used as a reason to sell him for 'lack of improvement'. He was scoring more and more goals each season and should have been obvious that he was just going to get better.
aye he doesnt deserve this
Well said
maybe for you. certainly not for me.. mr G
You are right
But I remember being pissed off with Rio when he got the 8 month ban
I would never have accepted him as captain but now I think he has made the effort to become captain material and cares about United
Now now.
Gus claims to be a Division Three footballer.
Don't be mean to him, he's had an injury nightmare with a hamstring problem since December.
No, I'm not kidding. He really does claim this.
I wasn't pissed off with Rio, I thought he'd been careless but I was bloody furious with the FA as they were so inconsistent, but for his carelessness I wouldn't have had him as captain at that time. But now I would, and for England and sod the FA.
clever
very good post...
Correct.
Would that we had listened to you and sold Ronaldo for Aaron Lennon three years ago...
16000 posts!
I don't think it was me wanted Ronaldo sold for Lennon. I may be wrong, but even if I did, I was about 16 at the time
thats becoming quite true....
Most of them with content even less insightful and riveting than that.
you are one to talk
Don't get me wrong, but you(and me of course) are known to target certain posters instead of contributing the thread.
I'm an expert on such things.
Worst transfer saga ever.
agree, the mikel saga was at least exciting.
I don't really contribute much.
Gus needs to be reminded that he's got his rehabilitation to be working on.
It is quite lame in that it isn't actually a transfer and it isn't really much of a saga either except in the minds of the newspapers.
He's come out and acted like a tit something like four times in seven weeks.
Meanwhile everyone from Rafael the Mutant Ninja Turtle to deceased SS Officers have weighed in on the 'saga' in the tabloid press, and Sky has even reported that he was "officially" off before making an hilariously embarrassing comedown.
That one had kidnappings, the Gerrard one had shirt burnings, the Ashley Cole/Gallas one had players threatening to score own goals (not that I believe that happened).
This one is shite. United have said next to nothing, Ronaldo has said about 2 words in English and all manner of Madrid fecknuts have contradicted each other every other day.
Not everyone in the media is criticising him.
From The Times
July 15, 2008
Cristiano Ronaldo: he has the right to leave
It's hard to feel sorry for multimillionaires, but the freedom to sell your trade must be defended
Mick Hume
As a lifelong Manchester United fan, I think the club should get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo now. As an old political red, I also believe he must be allowed to leave whether United want to sell him or not.
The suggestion that denying Ronaldo a transfer to Real Madrid would be akin to slavery has been understandably ridiculed. After all, few galley slaves were paid £6 million per annum and the pampered Portuguese has rarely been subjected to whips and manacles.
Nevertheless, Ronaldo has a point. No, he is not a chattel slave. But despite his fabulous pay, he is an employee. Or what some used to call a “wage slave” because, while free to sell his ability to work, he is also “free” of any other means to support himself.
As such, Ronaldo should be as free to quit his job as anybody else. Footballers' contracts, however, remain an aberration. Working-class players fought for years against a system of binding contracts and maximum wages. In 1909 the entire United team was suspended for refusing to quit their union. In 1955 Jimmy Guthrie, the players' leader, addressed the Trades Union Congress on behalf of “the last bonded men in Britain - the professional footballers”, seeking “to smash a system... which, as in feudal times, binds a man to one master or, if he rebels, stops him getting another job. The conditions of the professional footballer's employment are akin to slavery.”
Background
The maximum wage of £20 a week was not abolished until 1961, under threat of a players' strike. Since then, changes in the market place have tremendously strengthened top players' hands. Yet they still sign contracts which mean they cannot leave unless the club agrees to sell them to another one. There have been threats from Sir Alex Ferguson and United's owners that, rather than sell Ronaldo to Real, they will “sit him in the stands” at Old Trafford. An old union hand like Fergie should recognise that as a restraint on the freedom of labour, whether he likes it or not.
Top footballers' lives have changed beyond recognition since days when they earned little more than supporters. Yet there remains a contempt for uppity working-class boys such as Ronaldo or Wayne Rooney, who earn “too much” for selling their labour power. Today, when people are worried about their jobs, it is hard to feel sympathy for poor little multimillionaires. However, a political principle, like a football fan's loyalty, is for ever. As a loyal United fan, I might no longer support Ronaldo. But as a working man, I still feel a grudging solidarity, even if the only “slaving” he does for £120k a week is kicking a ball rather than being used as one.
From The Times
July 15, 2008
Cristiano Ronaldo: he has the right to leave
It's hard to feel sorry for multimillionaires, but the freedom to sell your trade must be defended
Mick Hume
As a lifelong Manchester United fan, I think the club should get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo now. As an old political red, I also believe he must be allowed to leave whether United want to sell him or not.
The suggestion that denying Ronaldo a transfer to Real Madrid would be akin to slavery has been understandably ridiculed. After all, few galley slaves were paid £6 million per annum and the pampered Portuguese has rarely been subjected to whips and manacles.
Nevertheless, Ronaldo has a point. No, he is not a chattel slave. But despite his fabulous pay, he is an employee. Or what some used to call a “wage slave” because, while free to sell his ability to work, he is also “free” of any other means to support himself.
As such, Ronaldo should be as free to quit his job as anybody else. Footballers' contracts, however, remain an aberration. Working-class players fought for years against a system of binding contracts and maximum wages. In 1909 the entire United team was suspended for refusing to quit their union. In 1955 Jimmy Guthrie, the players' leader, addressed the Trades Union Congress on behalf of “the last bonded men in Britain - the professional footballers”, seeking “to smash a system... which, as in feudal times, binds a man to one master or, if he rebels, stops him getting another job. The conditions of the professional footballer's employment are akin to slavery.”
Background
The maximum wage of £20 a week was not abolished until 1961, under threat of a players' strike. Since then, changes in the market place have tremendously strengthened top players' hands. Yet they still sign contracts which mean they cannot leave unless the club agrees to sell them to another one. There have been threats from Sir Alex Ferguson and United's owners that, rather than sell Ronaldo to Real, they will “sit him in the stands” at Old Trafford. An old union hand like Fergie should recognise that as a restraint on the freedom of labour, whether he likes it or not.
Top footballers' lives have changed beyond recognition since days when they earned little more than supporters. Yet there remains a contempt for uppity working-class boys such as Ronaldo or Wayne Rooney, who earn “too much” for selling their labour power. Today, when people are worried about their jobs, it is hard to feel sympathy for poor little multimillionaires. However, a political principle, like a football fan's loyalty, is for ever. As a loyal United fan, I might no longer support Ronaldo. But as a working man, I still feel a grudging solidarity, even if the only “slaving” he does for £120k a week is kicking a ball rather than being used as one.
That one had kidnappings, the Gerrard one had shirt burnings, the Ashley Cole/Gallas one had players threatening to score own goals (not that I believe that happened).
This one is shite. United have said next to nothing, Ronaldo has said about 2 words in English and all manner of Madrid fecknuts have contradicted each other every other day.
And those words were "I" "loveliest".
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