I wish he become a slave instead.
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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I wish he become a slave instead.
He hasn't asked for a transfer because if he does he and his agent dont get a cut. You must be thick if you cant see that.good photoshopping on mikel!!
that is only a suposition though, you DO know this.
Flood got away with it because no one had the guts to point out that, although he was correct in principle in holding registrations, his metaphor was way off.
How do you tell a black man in 1972 that he's a joke for using the word "slave"?
Oh, I forgot, you know! another feckin' expert, eh? another one to match Ballague, Terra and the Sun! if the talk is correct, what he loses with us, he'll more than make up for with Madrid, you tosser.
Queiroz gone.
And you're much more than thick if you can't see Madrid would make it up, idiot!.
Have we not got rid of this fecking vermin yet?
On Ronaldo...I know it is more than 10 words and doesn't have the word "cnut!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!" in it, but please do read and respond:
I haven't seen our little shit be "angry".
I also don't think he fully understood the import of the Blatter comment or the seriousness of agreeing with it. I also think that he believes he will be a United player for at least another year, but he doesn't realise that there really is a line at which many fans will be too irritated to embrace him again no matter what he does on the pitch. His ego is such that he doesn't see that.
Rather than being "angry", or crossing some horrible line this time, what he had done is equivocated again with his "dream" crap, and "everyone knows what I want" and "we will see"s. This time it was not mixed with "I will score goals for United", though. I expect now he's said this about slavery he will come out in a day or two and say he hopes to retain the CL for United next year. The problem is that the same old song and dance is getting tiresome for many.
He's trying to have his cake and eat it too, saying what pleases the Portuguese and Spanish media on the one hand, and the English on the other hand.
He's not the brightest fish in the pond, and I figure he doesn't realise Carlos Quieroz isn't the only person to speak multiple languages. He did this in 2004 and 2006 as well.
I also think he saw the story die down and wanted to see his pretty little picture in the papers again so he stirred up the hornet's nest so that he could be THE big news story. He's obviously a massively narcissistic individual, and prizes seeing himself in the mirror above just about everything else.
Those who say he'd only go to Real if the original terms of it being the biggest transfer in the history of sports by far I think are about right. He wants it to validate him as the bestestest player on the planet ever. If it was just a regular run-of-the-mill major transfer he would be insulted by it and his dream would suddenly be to "play for the lads" again.
When Ferguson gets a hold of him (perhaps literally) his brain will likely get sorted out again. Whether too many bridges will be burnt with too many people (largely in the dressing room, Fergie isn't going to give a feck what the fans think), we just don't know - and it largely depends on what happens between now and when he and SAF get together.
I haven't seen our little shit be "angry".
I also don't think he fully understood the import of the Blatter comment or the seriousness of agreeing with it. I also think that he believes he will be a United player for at least another year, but he doesn't realise that there really is a line at which many fans will be too irritated to embrace him again no matter what he does on the pitch. His ego is such that he doesn't see that.
Rather than being "angry", or crossing some horrible line this time, what he had done is equivocated again with his "dream" crap, and "everyone knows what I want" and "we will see"s. This time it was not mixed with "I will score goals for United", though. I expect now he's said this about slavery he will come out in a day or two and say he hopes to retain the CL for United next year. The problem is that the same old song and dance is getting tiresome for many.
He's trying to have his cake and eat it too, saying what pleases the Portuguese and Spanish media on the one hand, and the English on the other hand.
He's not the brightest fish in the pond, and I figure he doesn't realise Carlos Quieroz isn't the only person to speak multiple languages. He did this in 2004 and 2006 as well.
I also think he saw the story die down and wanted to see his pretty little picture in the papers again so he stirred up the hornet's nest so that he could be THE big news story. He's obviously a massively narcissistic individual, and prizes seeing himself in the mirror above just about everything else.
Those who say he'd only go to Real if the original terms of it being the biggest transfer in the history of sports by far I think are about right. He wants it to validate him as the bestestest player on the planet ever. If it was just a regular run-of-the-mill major transfer he would be insulted by it and his dream would suddenly be to "play for the lads" again.
When Ferguson gets a hold of him (perhaps literally) his brain will likely get sorted out again. Whether too many bridges will be burnt with too many people (largely in the dressing room, Fergie isn't going to give a feck what the fans think), we just don't know - and it largely depends on what happens between now and when he and SAF get together.
No real shock there, though.
The key is who the successor is.
We've long known Scolari was leaving. The hope was that Quieroz would stay if Scolari got the Chelsea job - as it would give Quieroz the chance to go up against someone whose guts he hates.
But we always sort of expected him to leave, hence the buffer of adding the other Portuguese speaking lads to the team last year.
a lot of this is good and probably true, but why would any of his team mates care what he says on holiday? also fergie will know what is best for him, i doubt getting hold of him would be part of it though,IMHO.
What exactly was said and was it a video interview or just quotes?
because I don't think he has done an interview in a few weeks so it might be new
It was Quieroz and he said " Ronaldo is definately staying, definately staying " it was all in english and probably around 3 seconds long as a journalist just caught up with him.
Hard to see if was new or not but it seems i'm the only person that saw it.
It's not just stubbornness, and I agree that Ferguson has the best interests of the club at heart, but there is a degree of stubbornness involved in this saga by all parties involved.
I will also cheer Ronaldo if he is playing for us next season, though perhaps not as much as in the past, I would never boo a player wearing the United jersey.
I am not sure what Ronaldo not asking for a transfer shows about him, you seem to think it means he doesn't want to leave United for Real just yet, only that he would like to one day. A great part of me wishes you are right. But it also may show that he lacks the maturity to come right out and say it, that he doesn't want to upset anyone and that he naively believes that he can leave United on good terms.
They don't want to know that on 'ere. They only want to know he's going - 'sell 'im, the cnut, he's upset me, sell the fecker, get a load of dosh for 'im, get the traitor out' and other such well thought out lines of argument.
Calm down fjred, you might rip your CR7 mouse mat or something.
I definitely agree he's immature - but learning - and it's that element that Calderon's playing on. The plain fact is that he hasn't asked for a transfer, even with the massive pressure being put on him. We can only conjecture the reasons but some make more sense than others. But note that Calderon seems to be the one trying to pull out all the stops, not us and not Ronnie. That says a lot.
class statemnt from Carlos
Queiroz: I'll always admire United
Carlos Queiroz issued this statement after United agreed in principle with the Portuguese FA to release him from his contract:
"It is with a very heavy heart that today I leave the greatest football club in the world after five fantastic years. This has been a special period in my life both personally and professionally. I have been so lucky to have had the opportunity to work in first class facilities with a staff team who are at the top of their profession.
"Our players on and off the pitch make the difference and to them also I owe a great deal of gratitude for their hard work, professionalism and most of all their performances. I feel we have in place the basis for the next generation to follow in the tradition of such world class players as Sir Bobby Charlton and George Best.
"Of course our success as a family is based on strong leadership and in The Glazer Family, The Board, David Gill and not least of all Sir Alex Ferguson we have the support and skills to stay at the top. To Sir Alex, I thank him for his faith in me and his knowledge, spirit and desire from which I will take strength and have confidence in my new role.
"I will forever be a fan and admirer of the club and also thankful that I had the opportunity to be part of such a great institution, a vast organisation but with a unique feeling of family and community. This leads me finally to our fans - local, national and international. I thank them for their fantastic support and encouragement in my time at the club, always there when we need them to support us both home and away in huge numbers.
"In conclusion I wish everyone at our club, continued success in the years to come and to continrespected the world over."
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6613704
Queiroz: I'll always admire United
Carlos Queiroz issued this statement after United agreed in principle with the Portuguese FA to release him from his contract:
"It is with a very heavy heart that today I leave the greatest football club in the world after five fantastic years. This has been a special period in my life both personally and professionally. I have been so lucky to have had the opportunity to work in first class facilities with a staff team who are at the top of their profession.
"Our players on and off the pitch make the difference and to them also I owe a great deal of gratitude for their hard work, professionalism and most of all their performances. I feel we have in place the basis for the next generation to follow in the tradition of such world class players as Sir Bobby Charlton and George Best.
"Of course our success as a family is based on strong leadership and in The Glazer Family, The Board, David Gill and not least of all Sir Alex Ferguson we have the support and skills to stay at the top. To Sir Alex, I thank him for his faith in me and his knowledge, spirit and desire from which I will take strength and have confidence in my new role.
"I will forever be a fan and admirer of the club and also thankful that I had the opportunity to be part of such a great institution, a vast organisation but with a unique feeling of family and community. This leads me finally to our fans - local, national and international. I thank them for their fantastic support and encouragement in my time at the club, always there when we need them to support us both home and away in huge numbers.
"In conclusion I wish everyone at our club, continued success in the years to come and to continrespected the world over."
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6613704
Nice work Shane.
That statement from Carlos Queiroz is an example to Ronaldo of how to show class and respect to the club. I hope he reads it and gets a clue.
That statement from Carlos Queiroz is an example to Ronaldo of how to show class and respect to the club. I hope he reads it and gets a clue.
I agree that it is Calderon and Real that are the driving force behind all this, but the problem we the fans have is that it is hard to believe that Ronaldo is an innocent bystander in all this. After all, he could end all this speculation by holding a press conference with the English media and say that there is nothing in the rumours and he is staying with United.
Originally I thought he had not done that because this whole thing is some sort of negotiating tactic aimed at getting an improved contract involving image rights, but that doesn't look all that plausible right now.
Yes very nice words.....now where were we, ah yes, depression.
Its all coming together now, isn't it....
"why with christiano, is always polemic?"
Because you're a classless cnut, thats why!!!
I want rid of him, whatever the damage to world football or principle. It'll be near impossible to support him at the club after the slavery thing.
If the cnut had just sat down with us and told us nicely that he wanted to go then released a statement ala queiroz then i'd certainly have missed him yet wished him all the best...
Now he's probably worse than the level of heinze, as an individual.
"why with christiano, is always polemic?"
Because you're a classless cnut, thats why!!!
I want rid of him, whatever the damage to world football or principle. It'll be near impossible to support him at the club after the slavery thing.
If the cnut had just sat down with us and told us nicely that he wanted to go then released a statement ala queiroz then i'd certainly have missed him yet wished him all the best...
Now he's probably worse than the level of heinze, as an individual.
He's not going to say anything like that as if we agree to sell, he'll be content to go, we've known that for a while. But equally if we don't get full value for him, he won't go anywhere at the moment and be content to stay. Why wouldn't he be? He isn't particularly bright and he's falling between 2 stools, trying to keep both parties onside. He can't win so he tries to keep quiet at a time the world reads everything into his farts. Believe me, he'll be bloody grateful to get back to Fergie. Calderon's the problem, nobody else, he's a desperate person. I don't feel it's ever been anything to do with a 'new' contract, though he won't refuse if it's offered.
Should tell Calderon, he'll be very pleased!
Heinze>Ronaldo?
Carlos Queiroz launches astonishing new attack on Real Madrid
New Portugal boss Carlos Queiroz will carry on his personal vendetta against Real Madrid by refusing to pick any Portuguese who plays for the Spanish club. In a move that will shock world football Queiroz is preparing to do his old club one last favour by forcing Cristiano Ronaldo to remain at Old Trafford.
Speaking on Friday he told a close friend "I will not pick anyone who plays for that club (Real Madrid). They cannot get away with what they've done. I will make a stand do what is right."
His plans will enrage FIFA president Sepp Blatter, also a Real Madrid fan. It could see the end of Cristiano Ronaldo's move to the Spanish champions. It's widely known Ronaldo values his international career and will not do anything to risk damaging it.
New Portugal boss Carlos Queiroz will carry on his personal vendetta against Real Madrid by refusing to pick any Portuguese who plays for the Spanish club. In a move that will shock world football Queiroz is preparing to do his old club one last favour by forcing Cristiano Ronaldo to remain at Old Trafford.
Speaking on Friday he told a close friend "I will not pick anyone who plays for that club (Real Madrid). They cannot get away with what they've done. I will make a stand do what is right."
His plans will enrage FIFA president Sepp Blatter, also a Real Madrid fan. It could see the end of Cristiano Ronaldo's move to the Spanish champions. It's widely known Ronaldo values his international career and will not do anything to risk damaging it.
Viva Quieroz !
I used to believe this -- that Ronaldo was happy with both camps; he'd be happy to go but also happy to stay.
But not anymore. Before I always thought his silence meant that he wasn't averse to leaving, but wouldn't mind staying. He didn't want to say he was going to stay as that would mean he definitely wouldn't go, something he'd really like, but he also didn't want to demand to leave because he wanted to make sure that if the deal went through he could stay here, and he didn't want to burn all the bridges when he probably does have some good memories here.
But now he has broken his silence (which, having not spoken for this long, he didn't need to do), and has firmly thrown his hat in the ring with Madrid. I don't think he's going to stay. I don't see how he can stay. I just hope we get as much money as we can.
I fear, though, that that won't happen now. Madrid are very, very clever when it comes to situations like this. Sound out the club to see if they want to sell, toss some ridiculous figures around. Plant in their minds the seeds that if the worst comes to the worst they can always cash in, and it also makes the player more likely to ask -- his current club won't be shafted. Let it fester for a while, all while continuing to court the player; get his national manager, his family members, his friends, his agent and even the President of FIFA to encourage him to leave. Eventually, his head will be turned and the club he belongs to will need to sell. And, suddenly, it's their desire to sell just as much as Madrid's desire to buy. The price can be lowered dramatically from the numbers first bandied around.
I think he's going to go, and I think he'll have gone before the Charity Shield match at the start of August. My worry now is that my fears are well-placed, and we'll see him go for something resembling an insulting figure.
It's not like we have a history of selling our big players for good prices, especially to Madrid (Van Nistelrooy for a measly £8,000,000, Beckham barely hit £20,000,000). Ronaldo's transfer will probably be between £30,000,000 and £40,000,000. I cannot foresee it breaking the world record, not now that Madrid have successfully unsettled the player.
These guys have a lot to answer for
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