ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Sam#1 said:
There won't be any swaps.
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Think there will have to be as Madrid don't have the funds. Remember we are in a strong position. They do have one or two interesting players we might have an interest in.

I still think if you want to excite the fans after Ronaldo, Ronaldhinio might be the one for us. Get him hungry, in shape and we'll be very strong. He's also as we know available.
 
giggs-beckham said:
I think we can demand that much for him.
We need to get this done quick and start signing players.

Berbatov (20m), ben arfa (15m), aguero (30m) = 65m

That leaves us with 35m change and that before we go into our allocated transfer fund which is what, 30-50m....this is all in theory obviously.
The days keep going by and were seemingly doing nothing. i dont want this ron saga to go on the entire window and us lose him and then have no time left to buy. and rush into buying santa cruz for double his value.:nervous:
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WE need to buy first and sell(if SAF decides to do so) later otherwise teams will know we have lots to spend after a sale of Ronaldo and they will double the price of their players.
 
BahamaRed said:
No swaps. Money only. We'll choose our own players thanks very much.
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There are very few good wingers available. Quaresema for example is rated 30m.

Sneijder and Robinho are excellent players + they are both young.
 
fergieisold said:
Why are you so sure? It would be for our benefit to have players included in a deal. having money doesn't mean anything if you can't get the players you want.
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When has there EVER been any big deals that have involved swaps? All these swap deals are just the media stirring things, in reality, it will just not happen

Plus, they don't have any players that we would want. They have a very average squad, with the odd superstar that wouldn't leave anyway.
 
I'm sure it's been said that we won't be buying till after the euro's. I'm sure things will pick up then. I doubt Ronaldo will be sold till after the Euro's either, assuming he is to be sold.
 
Striker10 said:
Think there will have to be as Madrid don't have the funds. Remember we are in a strong position. They do have one or two interesting players we might have an interest in.

I still think if you want to excite the fans after Ronaldo, Ronaldhinio might be the one for us. Get him hungry, in shape and we'll be very strong. He's also as we know available.
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It would not be difficult for SAF to get that guys hunger going again.
 
Once the negotiation is opened, Real Madrid can haggle and value the two players at 60 mp, plus a 10 mp cash, equal the figure of 70 mp.

United are giving a green light to Real Madrid if Ronnie's deal goes through, in two years time, another player Real Madrid fancy will subject to phone calls, tapping up, media propaganda and so on. Selling clubs, upon learning United new-found wealth, will try to make a kill.

This has to be treaded carefully on.

Striker10 said:
any money mentioned on top of that?

In a weird way, we can't lose. We would strengthen the squad. Additionally, we'd be saving ourselves two years down the line having these problems with Ronaldo and his fecking dreams
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Sam#1 said:
When has there EVER been any big deals that have involved swaps? All these swap deals are just the media stirring things, in reality, it will just not happen
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Swaps are common in Southern Europe expecially in Italy. Seedorf for example was brought to AC Milan through a swap deal.
 
Sam#1 said:
Well then, tough shit for Madrid.
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It depends if they have players we have an interest in. If we don't, then nothing will happen. You also have to bear in mind while swaps never happen, this is an unsual situation. They could be the biggest deal ever, and because of that it's complicated.

We could improve the team if we sold Ronaldo and played it smart. I don't want to sell Ronaldo but ultimately his future here is short term and even if it wasn't, I don't think anyone is quite sure what to make of him
 
I know what I would demand of Real after their dirty tricks campaign in trying to get Ronaldo to sign for them. I would add onto any deal that may possibly be made. I would add that Calderons wife become the tea lady at OT for a season, and the OT tea lady be given a season off with full pay paid by Real Madrid. In short, I would make it impossible for them to deal with us.
 
Sam#1 said:
It's true though. Take a look at it, it really isn't that special. And there performance in the CL would back that up.
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Are you saying that players like Casillas, Ramos, Robinho, Robben, Sneijder, Van Nistelrooy, Cannavaro and Gago are average?
 
Sam#1 said:
I'm talking big deals. Name me more than one big deal that has involved a swap of top quality players?
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There haven't been many big deals of this kind around. Stating that big names have changed names through swap deals. Players like Seedorf for example

BTW If I remember well in the Ronaldo's deal (from Inter to Real) Real tried to insert Solari in the deal. Unfortunately they valued him too much and Inter didn't accepted.
 
devilish said:
Are you saying that players like Casillas, Ramos, Robinho, Robben, Sneijder, Van Nistelrooy, Cannavaro and Gago are average?
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As I say, there are a select few superstars. Casilas, Ramos, Sneijder and Ruud being good examples. Robben is when fit, but thats hardly ever. Cannavaro is way past his best and Gago, meh.

There awful performance in the CL would back this up, they are an overrated team, and nothing you say will change my opinion of this.
 
bbest said:
Once the negotiation is opened, Real Madrid can haggle and value the two players at 60 mp, plus a 10 mp cash, equal the figure of 70 mp.

United are giving a green light to Real Madrid if Ronnie's deal goes through, in two years time, another player Real Madrid fancy will subject to phone calls, tapping up, media propaganda and so on. Selling clubs, upon learning United new-found wealth, will try to make a kill.

This has to be treaded carefully.
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I agree with that but I also think it comes down to the person. I think yes it's bad but Ronaldo doesn't have an appriciation of this club. You can't label all foreigners disloyal or as small minded as Ronaldo's being

It comes down to the people and some are genuine, some sadly aren't.

I just think

Sneijder and Robinho plus 40M. Look at that. If we bought in Ronaldhinio too, would we be weaker or stronger? It's very tough.

While losing Ronaldo will look bad, getting Ronaldhinio would be a coup. He's in his prime and I think would be here for many years, but it's all speculation

In principle I agree, but I think it comes down to the people and of course if we keep winning, then people will be more inclined to stay

Additionally, Ronaldo is showing in my opinion a lack of ambition. A player like him should be wanting to stay and win more especially in Europe. I think he's making a massive mistake but the fact is he's a prat because if he's using scolaris bullshit as an excuse then God help us.
 
I would take 50 mil pounds+ Robinho in a flash.

And btw,Real value Robinho at 30 mil pounds.
 
Sam#1 said:
As I say, there are a select few superstars. Casilas, Ramos, Sneijder and Ruud being good examples. Robben is when fit, but thats hardly ever. Cannavaro is way past his best and Gago, meh.

There awful performance in the CL would back this up, they are an overrated team, and nothing you say will change my opinion of this.
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Are you saying that just because it took us a decade to win the CL and failed to make an impact in the CL before 1999 we were overrated?
 
Sam#1 said:
When has there EVER been any big deals that have involved swaps? All these swap deals are just the media stirring things, in reality, it will just not happen

Plus, they don't have any players that we would want. They have a very average squad, with the odd superstar that wouldn't leave anyway.
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Exactly. Spot on.

Good post Sam.
 
devilish said:
Are you saying that players like Casillas, Ramos, Robinho, Robben, Sneijder, Van Nistelrooy, Cannavaro and Gago are average?
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Gago and Cannavaro (at present) are average in my opinion. The rest are good but nowhere near that top bracket of players. They don't compare to Barca or Utd, for instance, in terms of 'stars'.
 
devilish said:
Are you saying that just because it took us a decade to win the CL and failed to make an impact in the CL before 1999 we were overrated?
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Just look at their squad, it's nothing special.
 
I_live_cement said:
Gago and Cannavaro (at present) are average in my opinion. The rest are good but nowhere near that top bracket of players. They don't compare to Barca or Utd, for instance, in terms of 'stars'.
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Real outran Barcelona this season.

The problem with Real is they have too many stars. It had always been like that. Stating that you cant call them average. Tottenham or Newcastle are average, Real are not.
 
Sam#1 said:
Just look at their squad, it's nothing special.
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Its a mix of very good players.

Only thing missing is a Ronaldo and another big player just to add their usual "Galactico" value.

Anyways I hate Real and hope we fecking twat them in the Cl next year.
 
Sam#1 said:
Just look at their squad, it's nothing special.
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I wouldn't say that a team which is made up of players like Casillas, Robben, Robinho, Ruud, Raul, Sneijder and Ramos as average. If you had to strip Manchester United from Rio, Scholes, Ronaldo, Tevez Evra and Rooney they would look 'average' too.
 
Sam#1 said:
I'm talking big deals. Name me more than one big deal that has involved a swap of top quality players?
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Didn't Crespo join Lazio in a world record breaking deal that included 2 players going the other way?
 
devilish said:
Real outran Barcelona this season.

The problem with Real is they have too many stars. It had always been like that. Stating that you cant call them average. Tottenham or Newcastle are average, Real are not.
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Barca underperformed, everyone knows that.

Real are more of a team now then they have been for the past 5 years, which is why they did so well in the league. But they lack star players and their efforts to sign Ronaldo show this.
 
devilish said:
I wouldn't say that a team which is made up of players like Casillas, Robben, Robinho, Ruud, Raul, Sneijder and Ramos as average. Anyway everyone has their own Fletchers and OSheas.
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Admittedly, average was the wrong word. But it really is nothing special, it's certainly not a patch on ours, or Real Madrid teams of the past. Even if they add Ronaldo, they won't be good enough to challange in Europe imo.

They would be far wiser using the £70 odd million buying 3 or 4 top quality players, then just Ronaldo.
 
I_live_cement said:
Barca underperformed, everyone knows that.

Real are more of a team now then they have been for the past 5 years, which is why they did so well in the league. But they lack star players and their efforts to sign Ronaldo show this.
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Real are stronger and much more balanced. Just because they want Ronaldo that doesnt mean that they dont have star players. Its like saying that Manchester United are average just because they wanted Berbatov or Benzema.

We are talking like Scousers.
 
Sam#1 said:
Admittedly, average was the wrong word. But it really is nothing special, it's certainly not a patch on ours, or Real Madrid teams of the past. Even if they add Ronaldo, they won't be good enough to challange in Europe imo.

They would be far wiser using the £70 odd million buying 3 or 4 top quality players, then just Ronaldo.
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Totally agree and it seems most Real madrid fans do to.
 
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