UnitedRoadRed
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I didn't say the squad needs a radical overhaul.Well I think we are then starting to move too far away from the financial discussion about whether there has been a lack of investment in the squad or not.
I guess it boils down to the fact that I feel we still have a very strong squad that even without any more additions would be good enough to challenge for the league next year - whereas you seem to think the squad needs a radical overhaul. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree as our POV is so far apart.
So basically they've refinanced twice - each refinancing takes more money out of the club as well.I cant see them ever paying off all the debt - it wouldnt really make financial sense for them to do so, however it would make sense to reduce it.
The bond is in place until 2017 and at that point (or maybe before) they will refinance again. Whenever they see an opportunity to refinance on better terms then I am sure they will take it.
At the moment, I cant say for sure what will happen with the PIK - all I can tell you is that the bond prospectus makes it possible for the Glazers to use excess cash from the club to pay it off over time.
I expected that they would have started to do this by now as there is a lot of excess cash available but we found out from last week's quarterly report that they havent. This might be because they can only redeem the PIK at certain times of the year (possibly July/August) or it might be because they have a completely different plan for the PIK. Only time will tell.
The particular subject of the PIK is actually an area of big debate at the moment and there is very good (but quite lengthy) discussion on the Andersred blog for those who want to follow it:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6525088379436999555&postID=1104637207182165655&isPopup=true
Very valid point Ciderman. Good post.
Nothing is written in stone. Back in 2005 nobody would expect United to winn three PL-titles in a row, reach two CL-finals and have our best period ever. Who thought (in 2005) that Giggs, Neville and Scholes would be around 2010/11. And finally who could dream of that Real Madrid would pay us £80m upfront for a young winger and six years later SAF would be stil in charge, nearly 70 years old and more hungry then ever. You can't predict the future.
Another thing. There is no logic to buy players just because we have money available. It's better to invest when it's necessary. We need three new quality players in the next two years. Replacement for VDS, Scholes and Hargreaves. Estimate cost of £75m. Maybe we have to replace a few others who don't develop as expected, but that will not cost us so much.
The new rules means that we need more english players. Joe Cole fits that bill. Other players who can catch our intrest is for example De Gea, Jovetic or Hamsik.
Our squad is nearly complete. The founds (£75m) are there to invest for future success. I have no reason to belive the owners will think any different. Our transfer-history since 2005 suggest me to belive that.
To say that it's our best period ever is silly. Try 93-03, where we also won a hat-trick of titles, plus the treble and two other doubles, as well as the Intercontinental Cup.