ALL issues relating to the bond issue and club finances

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And my post count is? And I last posted when?

I may have balls but they are not made of crystal.

I couldnt tell you what your username over there is. For all I know you could be the biggest poster on the forum.

Lets face it, when you talk of spastics, you are more than qualified.
 
Here we go again :rolleyes:

Well do us all a favour then and tell us.

Who is it you work for ?

Hardly the hardest question in the world to answer.. Yet over on Red Issue, like here, you are desperate that no one finds out.

Perhaps we should invite Julie from RI to come in and tell us all what she found out. Apparantly it was very interesting. Very very interesting.
 
I may have balls but they are not made of crystal.

I couldnt tell you what your username over there is. For all I know you could be the biggest poster on the forum.

Lets face it, when you talk of spastics, you are more than qualified.

It's richio. Feel free to investigate. Do you require my wage slips too?
 
Well do us all a favour then and tell us.

Who is it you work for ?

Hardly the hardest question in the world to answer.. Yet over on Red Issue, like here, you are desperate that no one finds out.

Perhaps we should invite Julie from RI to come in and tell us all what she found out. Apparantly it was very interesting. Very very interesting.

Why don't you just tell us Fred or kindly feck off.
 
Well do us all a favour then and tell us.

Who is it you work for ?

Hardly the hardest question in the world to answer.. Yet over on Red Issue, like here, you are desperate that no one finds out.

Perhaps we should invite Julie from RI to come in and tell us all what she found out. Apparantly it was very interesting. Very very interesting.

Fred, I wouldn't tell you what I had for breakfast this morning yet alone who I work for.

I can tell you I definitely don't work for the Glazers or anyone connected with Manchester United.

Presumably in your world Ciderman, Rood and TMRD are all on the payroll as well?
 
This is they type of season where Utd fans could force the Glazers out. We're not going to win anything this year so a massive boycott of Old Trafford around December time until the scumbags sell up would surely give us a chance to boot them out. If not one single fan turned up for a home game in December than that would send a chilling message to the Glazers. Of course it would not help matters on the pitch but seem as we are in transition and not looking like we are realistically challenging for anything this year then I can only see it being a good thing.
December would be perfect as it would be the time that a potential buyer would look to purchase with the January transfer window around the corner to boost the team.
Is this idea really that hard to pull off? Liverpool have shown that there are ways to get rid of toxic owners. I think the fans need to do what is best for the club regardless of what Fergie says!
 
Basically you don't know do you. We've been here before.

Just like I didnt know he was Eaststand off Red Issue.

I think you'll find I was the one that worked out exactly who he was, and despite you saying the same back then, I was proven to be right. Wasn't I ?

I was right then.. Perhaps after looking an idiot last time, you should shut that fecking trap of yours...
 
Wow, and we were starting to clean this thread up as well.

What the feck is going on?

I have no interest in what GCHQ does for a living.

The glazer mob were starting to give some perspective and fairness and now its gone to pot again.

1 step forward 2 steps back.....
 
They won't. Don't ask me why. Discrediting gchq would be golden for them.

Hmmm, that's a bit unfair.

(1) I recommended GCHQ for promotion in the first place.
(2) I've posted in defence of him when allegations about why he posts the official Red Football line so frequently in the past have been made.

However, I'm no longer convinced of my initial stance on this.
 
Hmmm, that's a bit unfair.

(1) I recommended GCHQ for promotion in the first place.
(2) I've posted in defence of him when allegations about why he posts the official Red Football line so frequently in the past have been made.

However, I'm no longer convinced of my initial stance on this.

Why are you no longer convinced, ralphie?
 
Not this shit again :rolleyes:

Why don't you tell us all who GCHQ is, or stop with the childish shit? If it affects me as a United fan and completely blows what he is saying away, then surely it's in all our best interests to know? Otherwise, it's not making anyone look particularly mature.

I come into this thread to try to at least get a glimmer of hope we aren't as much in the crap as I think we are, not be subjected to he said/she said rubbish and utter nonsense about top reds and other forums.
 
Just like I didnt know he was Eaststand off Red Issue.

I think you'll find I was the one that worked out exactly who he was, and despite you saying the same back then, I was proven to be right. Wasn't I ?

I was right then.. Perhaps after looking an idiot last time, you should shut that fecking trap of yours...

Eh? Where did you expose him? And so what if he was eaststand? I don't think even you know what the feck you're on about.
 
The only problem with GCHQ is he does exactly what he accuses MUST and Andersred of doing but at the other extreme.

MUST for example highlight the risks of the Glazer model.

GCHQ completely disregards them.

Andersred at least seems to take opinion on board and has made great efforts to balance his opinion, in fact he has gone way to far in my opinion.

GHCQ has never made a single concession which is what irks me so much. Anyone who understands accounting to any level will understand the risks of the Glazers, he refuses to acknowledge.

On the subject of GCHQ's job, I thought it was common knowledge that he works in marketing?
 
Not this shit again :rolleyes:

Why don't you tell us all who GCHQ is, or stop with the childish shit? If it affects me as a United fan and completely blows what he is saying away, then surely it's in all our best interests to know? Otherwise, it's not making anyone look particularly mature.

I come into this thread to try to at least get a glimmer of hope we aren't as much in the crap as I think we are, not be subjected to he said/she said rubbish and utter nonsense about top reds and other forums.

The thing is, even if he were connected to united what would it matter. It's a side of the argument opposite to the must Standpoint argued by others. Both have an agenda. You don't have to accept their arguments but they both have an equal right to present them. Unlike ri you do t ban someone because their opinion isn't that of the majority.
 
Eh? Where did you expose him? And so what if he was eaststand? I don't think even you know what the feck you're on about.

As someone who supposedly reads Red Issue and knows so much about it, I am amazed you know so little about Eaststand.

And go back to when he first arrived here. I posted that I knew who he was and what he was about.. You said it was all a pack of lies blah blah blah.

Well I was right.

All I am saying is that what GCHQ does for a living could prove to be very relevant to this debate. Just like it was relevant over on Red Issue, and he did everything within his power to make sure no one found out.

Now ask yourself WHY that is ? I cant answer that for him. Only he can answer why he doesnt want anyone finding out what his profession actually is.
 
The thing is, even if he were connected to united what would it matter. It's a side of the argument opposite to the must Standpoint argued by others.

You must admit that there would be a problem if it was confirmed that a poster who had claimed to be independent was in fact found to be essentially on the payroll of those he was independently supporting?
 
The thing is, even if he were connected to united what would it matter. It's a side of the argument opposite to the must Standpoint argued by others. Both have an agenda. You don't have to accept their arguments but they both have an equal right to present them. Unlike ri you do t ban someone because their opinion isn't that of the majority.

That's all fair enough. It might skew my thoughts on what he is saying though if he did work for United or had some interest in leading United fans down the wrong road. However I don't think he does, otherwise surely we would have been informed of this?

As for R.I, well the less said about that place the better. Not that the list of people who are on there (which was posted a little earlier) is anywhere near correct.
 
That's all fair enough. It might skew my thoughts on what he is saying though if he did work for United or had some interest in leading United fans down the wrong road. However I don't think he does, otherwise surely we would have been informed of this?

As for R.I, well the less said about that place the better. Not that the list of people who are on there (which was posted a little earlier) is anywhere near correct.


Indeed.
 
You must admit that there would be a problem if it was confirmed that a poster who had claimed to be independent was in fact found to be essentially on the payroll of those he was independently supporting?

Well unless someone actually shows me the slightest bit of evidence of that its not an issue is it. And no Fred, Internet rumours are not evidence.
 
And of course, companies dont have offices in both London and Manchester.

I'm done with this nonsense frankly. I don't have to prove anything to anyone and I'm not going to.

We also don't require any evidence that you're a complete and utter certifiable loon because we established that fact a long time ago now.
 
Cool. We might not agree with everything gchq says or the way he says it but peddling little Internet rumours to discredit him is pathetic and without evidence should result in bans.

Where have I discredited him.

I said that what he does for a living COULD be relevant to this debate.

I have asked him to tell us all, but he refuses point blank.

Now why would he not want to tell us if as you say, its not relevant.

Over on Red Issue they had this same debate, and over there, he refused to do the same, however one of the mods using her powers of intuition and a bit of internet technology did some checking. And what she found out was quite interesting.

Now as you say, what that was is simply internet rumour, but its a rumour based around fact, and its a fact that GCHQ doesnt want you or I, or anyone else on here to be made public.

Yet again. I ask you why that is..
 
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