Shame we can't transfer some of our fans to them.
Or at least make them realise the difference in size of the clubs. Maybe take a tour of the south of England and see how many city shirts you spot
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Shame we can't transfer some of our fans to them.
Or at least make them realise the difference in size of the clubs. Maybe take a tour of the south of England and see how many city shirts you spot
I'm also waiting for this. Some peptard said it and see somehow it is taken as fact.
Chelsea walked the league last year and are nowhere near this season. Yes City have dominated the league but that doesn’t mean anything come September.
I quite like that although I was thinking of a possible diamond next season.
Martial Lukaku
Sanchez
Pogba New CM
Matic
Shaw Bailly Lindelof Valencia
DDG
I get the feeling we will buy a full back in the summer to challenge Valencia or Shaw and look to bring in a big name CM.
EDIT: Also not beyond the realms of possibility that Mourinho looks to improve on Martial next to Lukaku either.
While United are out of the running for the PL, would anyone put it past Mourinho to win the FA Cup and / or CL? The latter, in particular, is difficult but far stranger things have happened. It’s funny how the media narrative paints United out as some sort of barren wasteland when it comes to winning trophies.
Not really. The difference between the squads is vastly overrated.
How so? You know those are full career stats and not Arsenal stats? He's barely if ever played on the right for Arsenal. For Barce I'm sure he had great stats on the right because Messi, Xavi and Fabregas were giving him service and he was passing to them so his assist stats would rise. But that isn't his best position.
He plays on the left or middle at Arsenal because he's better there. Think about it logically, if Alexis is right footed, why would you want that lethal right foot further away from goal?
I can't see Mourinho shoehorning his best forward in Alexis into a position where he isn't as good because 'right side is your worse position'.
Results and performances would appear to suggest otherwise.
The ideal would be a fluid system where the players interchange all across a front three.
I can see him occupying all three positions here.
Sanchez in january and Ozil in the summer. Yes please, thank you Arsenal!
You'd think city had won the league for three seasons running the way some of our 'fans' go on about them.
There also seems to be this perception that they've won every game 5-0 with beautiful football. As excellent as they've been they've also had to win about 6 games in the last few minutes by digging out a goal in a game they didn't always set alight. This is why they will win the league of course but it's hardly peak era Barcelona either.
There also seems to be this perception that they've won every game 5-0 with beautiful football. As excellent as they've been they've also had to win about 6 games in the last few minutes by digging out a goal in a game they didn't always set alight. This is why they will win the league of course but it's hardly peak era Barcelona either.
Still don't want to get sucked in.
However, imagine how we could line up!
433
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Rojo Shaw
Matic
Pogba Lingard
Sanchez Lukaku Martial
However, imagine how we could line up!
433
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Rojo Shaw
Matic
Pogba Lingard
Sanchez Lukaku Martial
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Sometimes it sounds cliche, but sometimes players are looking for projects, some dreams and visions apart from money/trophies.
Maybe sanchez wants to be part of something that jose envision him doing.
Sometimes... We do get pogba to join us on our lowest point didnt we? And fletcher, john oshea left us when we're a trophy magnet, for something else with a different team.
Maybe sanchez wants to be part of something that jose envision him doing.
Sometimes... We do get pogba to join us on our lowest point didnt we? And fletcher, john oshea left us when we're a trophy magnet, for something else with a different team.
Sanchez could join city and be another cog in a machine that nobody cares about. Or he could join United and be the jewel in the crown of one of the world's great clubs. If I were him, I'd enjoy the challenge of trying to become a legend at Old Trafford.
Telling your grandkids that you dragged a club of our histroy out of the doldrums would be far better than telling them you won a trophy or two at an oil backed club.
At least in my opinion.
Right now, I work for an organisation I'm proud to be a part of, even though I could earn higher rewards elsewhere. It depends on what's important to him. He's 'won' things at Barcelona. But did he really do anything there? He could actually say he was pivotal here.
Telling your grandkids that you dragged a club of our histroy out of the doldrums would be far better than telling them you won a trophy or two at an oil backed club.
At least in my opinion.
Right now, I work for an organisation I'm proud to be a part of, even though I could earn higher rewards elsewhere. It depends on what's important to him. He's 'won' things at Barcelona. But did he really do anything there? He could actually say he was pivotal here.
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According to transfermarkt this is his stats for arsenal:
LW - 78-35-20
RW - 25-10-8
Just as good on the right as on the left according to these stats, but as I said, stats ain’t all, and I get your point.
It’s just that if we’re after him to use him on the left, I really don’t want him.
Eh, somehow I doubt the manager was trying to stop them.
Exactly. He would be moving to the best supported club in the world, the most successful in England and with the most decorated manager in the league. On a more tangible level, he would be taking a key role in a team who are in the latter stages of the Champions League and well positioned to be in the competition again next season. Yes, the league is gone this season and there is a hollow opportunity to collect a ceremonial medal over at Eastlands, and yes, City are a much more complete team too. The thing is, if the puzzle is complete, where is a new piece going to fit in? At 29, does he have time to wait around to find out?
Claiming this is just about money is idiotic. If our fans can't see this, maybe they are not really fans at all?
My point was that maybe certain players has a different perspective on what's best for them. City is a best bet for a trophy next season, but on the downside sanchez would become a peripheral figure there.
There's always a pro and cont in joining a new team
Yeah, I wonder why any player in the world joins us. Going back, wonder why Ronaldo joined Madrid, why Cantona joined United, why Rooney joined us etc. etc. It’s almost, almost as if players may also desire a really prestigious club, see the plan and want to make their names as the players that played a major role in bringing glory to such a club - oh, and yes, while earning good money while at it - and being one of the idols for the best-supported and loved club in the fecking world.
It’s bizarre really that some of our fans can overlook this. As for the “better chance of winning more trophies”, BS! City are on an unprecedented high but this won’t last forever. Even Pep’s Barca team didn’t win consecutive CLs and the Real team that has won 2 CLs (albeit just 1 La Liga) is in dire straits right now domestically and facing PSG in the CL.
If United land Sanchez and add 2-3 shrewd signings to this one, I’d argue we’d be well on our way to unseating City. The defeatism and pessimism as well as the Pep-fellating in here is nauseating at times.
Don't start this nonsense.
If he joined us, he'd never need to buy a drink in any bar in the world. He'd be swimming in champagne for the rest of his life and be a hero to millions.
If he joined City, he might get a free can of Carling in the arse end of Droylsden.
If he joined City, he might get a free can of Carling in the arse end of Droylsden.
The good news is, he's never actually played on the right for arsenal. So he can not actually play on the right for you just fine
He did play on the right at the beginning for udinese, without success, then played there for barcelona and their fans couldn't wait to see the back of him. Though he also played there for Chile, and was good for them at least
Wow, this thread has really gone to hell since Rio made an entirely reasonable comment on the telly.
Mate you’ve been chatting the most nonsense on the caf to date.
It really is. This place may as well be called Pep cafe at times. So many on here bowed down in adoration of their god Guardiola.
If he'd join us his career would be destroyed. He would come just for the money while our neighbors would win trophy after trophy. United as a club is past it and on a down spiral..
That's how some think it seems. We're amazed how Rio is saying something while we have fans who are saying similar things and worse.
I get it when Barca, Bayern and City fans get here and defend and salivate over Pep (best part is Bayern fans do it more than City ones) but when so many United fans do it. It's just strange.
That's how some think it seems. We're amazed how Rio is saying something while we have fans who are saying similar things and worse.
I get it when Barca, Bayern and City fans get here and defend and salivate over Pep (best part is Bayern fans do it more than City ones) but when so many United fans do it. It's just strange.
Under Mourinho, our most regular right winger has been Mata.The good news is, he's never actually played on the right for arsenal. So he can not actually play on the right for you just fine
He did play on the right at the beginning for udinese, without success, then played there for barcelona and their fans couldn't wait to see the back of him. Though he also played there for Chile, and was good for them at least
I don't think Sanchez would be in the side to provide width if we played him there. It would only be a starting position for him to press from.
He'll have role to get into the box and support Lukaku. Given our current formation, he can do that from the right just as easily as from the left.
What did he say?
At least I'm not claiming that anyone who disagrees with my point of view isn't a real fan.
No one's won the league back to back in ten years and people have already decided that next year's title is won as well. Madness.
That he should join City. More opportunities of trophies.
What do you expect when city and Ped Roidiola have destroyed our infrastructure!?
I think I will start this nonsense. Do you not think the points I made above that line were valid?
The most funny thing about the City winning everything narrative is, they haven't won anything yet under Pep, and in the last couple of years, we've won more.
That he has a beter chance of throphies at City than United, given the current standings. It's difficult to argue otherwise. It was a loaded question in the first place.
Sunday Supplement group about to start talking about this now.
Playing a right footed player on the right side of the pitch is logical. Inverted wingers may be in vogue but its far easier for players to play on their natural side. Its why we rarely have inverted full backs.
The last two title winning sides in England did not use inverted wingers either. Hazard played to the left of Costa last year, Pedro to the right. Mahrez and Albrighton also played on their natural sides. Not to mention this year's pace setters, Manchester City, use Sterling and Sane on their natural sides as well. It has not affected their ability in front of goal at all. I don't understand what you're saying about the right foot being further away from goal if Alexis plays on his natural side.
Who knows where Alexis will end up? I hope at United. Let's not pretend he can't play on the right though. That's exactly where Pep would play him. Its exactly where he played him before.
Footballing reasons: Man City
Pep reasons: Man City
Financial reasons: Man Utd
Hopes and Dreams reasons: Liverpool Fans
You may be right but the fact hes 29 and you dont know whats in his and his agents head doesnt make you right. Fergie tried to sign him years ago but he didnt want to come. Not everyone thinks Utd is the place to be, especially foreign S American players who see Barca and Real as the pinnacle.
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