It says nothing when Sanchez has played less than half of the minutes played by the others. Look at stats on whoscored without discriminating by game time and you will have terrible players at the top.
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It says nothing when Sanchez has played less than half of the minutes played by the others. Look at stats on whoscored without discriminating by game time and you will have terrible players at the top.
And rightly so. No way he should be threatening Martial position again.
Rotate him with Lingard and play through the middle or on the right if needed.
But we have not even seen him in the Lingard role.
Eh?
Not sure what is so hard to understand.
I think you need to read the post you quoted again my friend
I did, it says he would make our first XI stronger and implies it is in place of Martial if he continues his "form".
What did you take out of it?
Considering he has played very little football in a while that was a good performance, not sure how anyone could think otherwise. Looked gassed after 60 minutes and Solskjaer replaced him at the right time. Very encouraging to have a player of his ability back in the frame.
We want players been under pressure to deliver, whether that be Martial or anyone else.
We also want him to get the run of games on his position for a longer period of time.
Something he didn't have here for too long.
Ah I get it, it was a little confusing. Your rightly so was about being slaughtered and it can also read as rightly so he comes in for Martial
Just don't believe his(or most players) place in the team should be copper fastened as your post suggested.
Weird to see a couple of people suggest he should come in for either Martial on the left or for Rashford down the middle. Much of our rejuvenation has come from the blistering pace these two have devastated opponents with. Sanchez comes in when either of these two need a rest, or suffer a dip in performances. Even then I’d rather trust them to play themselves into form. These guys are no longer the future, they are the here and now (as well as the future).
I thought he struggled against a reserve right back but his goal was well taken and he worked hard.
I also agree with the people who want to see him in a different position. We know exactly what we get from him on the left, how we miss Martial's pace and dribbling, how it impacts negatively on Pogba etc. Mourinho completely ignored this and kept picking him there over and over again, hopefully Solskjaer won't make the same mistake.
I also agree with the people who want to see him in a different position. We know exactly what we get from him on the left, how we miss Martial's pace and dribbling, how it impacts negatively on Pogba etc. Mourinho completely ignored this and kept picking him there over and over again, hopefully Solskjaer won't make the same mistake.
Ah I get it, it was a little confusing. Your rightly so was about being slaughtered and it can also read as rightly so he comes in for Martial
I generally even agree with him, think he could possibly make our first XI stronger, but at this point of time definitely not on Martial position.
Absolutely, Sanchez knows a thing or two about it. I pretty much cleared what I meant in my reply. Martial should have a run of games knowing it is his position and allowed to have a bad day.
To imply Sanchez should go (again) on that position is baffling to me considering what happened in the last year or so.
Agree with you I want Martial to start a long run of games and hopefully sign an new contract.
Ahh what a pain in the ass this guy has become. Was supposed to be one of our main men but at the moment nobody knows even where he is supposed to play regularly. Putting Martial and Sanchez toe to toe is such a big mistake in my books. And the fact is Martial has been constantly good. It is not the left side we need to be better but the right side. Well, at least we have squad depth with him .
.Lovely goal, apart form that he was okay. Nothing more nothing less.
I agree and if his form dips then Sanchez is a great option to have to replace him. Don't forget Sanchez hasn't had a run in the team under Solskjaer, he looked a different player last night, it's a clean slate for everyone. I'm delighted to have both.
It's weird that a large section of our support seem to be actively hoping that Sanchez does badly. A firing Sanchez could take us to the next level imo.
Fair point.
His general movement and decision making is superior to most. I didn't see this whole "struggling against Niles" point tbh. I think some people expect Sanchez to be some sort of speed merchant, which he never was to begin with.
Sanchez never had blistering pace. He hasn't lost what he didn't have. He would beat a man with agility, footwork, intelligent movement, and 1-2 passing .
Even in his arsenal hey day fans complained his shift on to the right foot to beat people was too predictable and it was getting caught out too much. He didnt change it because he can't. Wenger also put him upfront because Giroud was garbage and board wouldn't spend, not out of some end of career pity.
It's his touch and passing I'm more concerned about and there's signs he's rediscovering it. He can remain a world class player if he sorts his basics out and gets in sync with his teammates.
I want to see what he can do under Ole in the Lingard role, with fullbacks high and Martial and Rashford either side. The pressure is firmly off him with others having stepped up. It's up to Ole to work with the player and manage individual and team chemistry.
Even in his arsenal hey day fans complained his shift on to the right foot to beat people was too predictable and it was getting caught out too much. He didnt change it because he can't. Wenger also put him upfront because Giroud was garbage and board wouldn't spend, not out of some end of career pity.
It's his touch and passing I'm more concerned about and there's signs he's rediscovering it. He can remain a world class player if he sorts his basics out and gets in sync with his teammates.
I want to see what he can do under Ole in the Lingard role, with fullbacks high and Martial and Rashford either side. The pressure is firmly off him with others having stepped up. It's up to Ole to work with the player and manage individual and team chemistry.
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He will do well in Ole’s system.
Nice to know there are posters who actually watched him rather than making up attributes he never had and claiming he lost them.
I've made a lot of comments on Sanchez in this forum. Let me just summarise what I think. If we had signed him this January for the same 'fee' and he played like he did against Reading, Newcastle and Arsenal yesterday. Everyone would be saying what a waste of money. Because he has been so so poor over the last year, his average performances have been magnified into great performances.
I want him to succeed like I do everyone who wears the Utd shirt, and I hope he does. But him being a success here will be the Sanchez, who has had to adapt his game to get the best out of his aging body, and not be the world class Sanchez we thought we were buying.
I want him to succeed like I do everyone who wears the Utd shirt, and I hope he does. But him being a success here will be the Sanchez, who has had to adapt his game to get the best out of his aging body, and not be the world class Sanchez we thought we were buying.
Ahh what a pain in the ass this guy has become. Was supposed to be one of our main men but at the moment nobody knows even where he is supposed to play regularly. Putting Martial and Sanchez toe to toe is such a big mistake in my books. And the fact is Martial has been constantly good. It is not the left side we need to be better but the right side. Well, at least we have squad depth with him
Sanchez plays from a left half/ left of a front three position. That is where he played for Arsenal, and was quite devastating for most of his time there (it soured in the end, like many Arsenal players). Can he play across the front three.. probably, but we can see where he operates most effectively, and more importantly, so can Ole/Phelan and it is no coincidence where they play him. Interesting question for you... where do you think Martial's best position is? He has been at United long enough. Because I think is a No 9.
With reference to Martial being constantly good, well, that may be your opinion. There is no way I can agree. You think Martial played well when he came on yesterday?
I don't think any of our players have been 'consistently good' this season. Not at all. Under Ole', now we are seeing some of our players, really play. But 'consistently good..'. Nope, cannot agree there. Mourinho took care of that.
Sanchez is the 2nd best player in the team to take-on a man after Martial. No idea what being finished at the elite levels means, it's just a nothing statement. Sanchez hasn't had pace for ages, his best season in his career was as a striker using his movement and finishing to get 49 goals and assists.
I am still waiting to see him on the right wing. I still think that we don't need some 60-70 mil right winger when we have him. Martial-Rashford- Alexis as first choice and Chong-Lukaku- Lingard as second choice attack looks great for me. But if Ole doesn't see him there then we have a problem. I don't see how either of them( Martial and Alexis) will accept rotation.
People misunderstand what elite players do. Elite players turn 50% percent plays in their favour. Sanchez does that. I think some people expect him to turn 10% plays in to 100% plays. He gave the ball away maybe twice at most, and kept it in some pretty disadvantageous situations multiple times. Some great touches and protected the ball very well. In my opinion that performance was better than Martial's recent performances. If you want someone who will try and beat his man and score a wonder goal every time he gets the ball, but fail most of the time, buy someone like Zaha.
Still not fully fit and hasnt played with Rashford and Tony up front. He is not super fast, but he still got decent pace and good acceleration. His twists and turns paired with his aggressiveness are what make him good, not his pure pace. Wont be easy to get into the team at the moment, same with Lukaku. Rashford, Martial and Lingard are mostly starters.
But we have seen him play and are able to envision what it would look like.
He also played centrally for Arsenal.
He will be even worse let's be honest. To go outside on your favoured foot you need acceleration + pace to stay ahead.
Sanchez is about balance + agility, which is why he prefers the left.
Give him a chance, he is still recovering from an injury. Took his goal superbly last night, but didn't put in a great performance admittedly. Like all the players coming out of the Mourinho induced malaise at United, he deserves to be given opportunities to show what he can do.
If he doesn't take the chance, then sure, sell him but to do that without seeing what he can do under OGS makes no sense.
If he doesn't take the chance, then sure, sell him but to do that without seeing what he can do under OGS makes no sense.
Let's give him until the summer. If he doesnt improve then he cannot have any excuses and say it was because of Mourinho. With that being said he has been one of our worst signings ever so far. Needs a massive improvement now otherwise we will cut him loose in the summer
I am able to envision what it would look like, and it wouldn't look very good to me. He is nothing like Lingard. There is a difference between playing as a striker ahead of two attacking midfielders and playing from the wing or as an attacking midfielder behind two forwards.
I don't know why people are so critical after Arsenal game. He is fantastic player. Can score and can create. He newer was( except in Udinese maybe) player who beats defender with his pace. He was always a player who uses his body balance to beat defender in a small area with which he gets space to shoot or pass. He never was a player who will beat a player like Rash or Martial do. He is more as inside forward playmaker.
And you think lingard would be a better attacking central midfielder than Alexis. Agree to disagree then.
Exactly.
Injuries and lack of form happen over a season. There should always be competition at Utd, our favourites shouldn't be guaranteed a start nor should we sell players just in case they have the cheek to challenge for a spot.
I know he’s played less than others, but calling him finished when he more consistently produces when he plays is ludicrous. I have little doubt he’ll be competing for being our top outputting attacker if he stays fit and plays. Ever since he joined us, his chance creation has been great. He’s a victim of variance followed by the black hole of Mourinho as much as anything.
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