I'd like to see him play behind Lukaku
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He's been hopeless in general.
That performance was alright. It's one you'd praise if it came from a 20 year old. It's functional. You want more than functional from Sanchez. In fact every good moment is something you'd mostly expect most 29 year old attackers to pull off. There's no brilliance whatsoever. It's an improvement in that he's not giving the ball away every 5 minutes. But this is more a Juan Mata peformance than what we need from our wingers. Nearly everytime he gets passed the ball with space to run into the defender catches up and he loses the chance.
Agreed. It'll suit his current version better.
Just move him to the right and let him drift in like Lingard and Mata do. Keep the Martial/Rashford rotation going on the left to compensate for the width.
Same. I'd rather we free up the wage bill and position in the 1st team because he occupies an important place. Looks like another Fernando Torres deal
He did a couple good things but he was mostly very average. It's better than he has been but still very far below from what we should be expecting from him. We didn't buy him and pay him whatever obscene wages he's on to have a couple good moments a game (good moments that didn't even lead to any goals/assists).
we've been playing a 4-4-2 diamond recently, the only difference is Sanchez has to do more defensive work from the left when we lose the ball.
He’s certainly not been good enough. I’m disappointed as I thought he would be such a sure thing. Fantastic player, never injured, been at a very good club and with PL experience. How on earth could he go wrong?!
I wasn’t expecting him to lead us to the title, or score the number of goals RVP did for us - but I did expect that sort of impact, for him to become our talisman.
Am hoping he finds some form and turns it around.
I wasn’t expecting him to lead us to the title, or score the number of goals RVP did for us - but I did expect that sort of impact, for him to become our talisman.
Am hoping he finds some form and turns it around.
Love the people trying to point out sanchez doing like 1-2 things right and ignoring the rest of his game each and every week. If that is what we wanted we could have simply kept mkhi. He was the king of playing like shite for most of the game then popping up for a goal/assist. Heck he did it while losing the ball a shitton less than sanchez did.
Imo that's False. Sanchez at his worst has tracked back and shown some fight if his quality has been missing.
Mkhi was just missing/end.
You may be right, but there's not much point in arguing about whether or not one utterly useless player has been slightly less shite than another utterly useless player was. They are/were both disasters.
Dont know why we never try it out. Jose sticks too often to principles that wont work too well
Not nearly playing as bad as some are suggesting. It's a pity Lukaku isn't a better foil for him at the moment but if they can improve that he'll look a lot better.
Better but still not great.
He has always been a player who likes a lot of quick touches and to dribble a bit, and he was so good because he could change direction on a sixpence and accelerate away from defenders. He seems to have lost some explosiveness in the last couple of years, and we don't exactly play the possession style to suit him. We like to sit deep and burst forward with fast, long passes. He's not especially quick once up to speed and he likes intricate one twos and short passes.
He's not been terrible but ultimately I think he's another square peg for a round hole.
Play him as a SS and Lukaku as CF?
I genuinely don't see Sanchez as a disaster. Its just that we've pegged him to some stupidly high benchmark.
Just give patience and time. I don't think Martial would do much better in a starting role. Sanchez is a player who will busta gut to track back to win the ball, or drop deep to get involved if needed. Hel lose the ball but show for it again every time because that's what's he's about.
Well Torres cost Chelsea £50m so it's hard to top that. But yeah, hard to disagree with that conclusion really.
He was bought as a marquee signing, on marquee wages. Of course we hold to him to a high standard.
He's had what, 25 games now? That's a fair chance in most people's eyes. And you've got evidence that Martial would do more - look at his performances in the first half of last season.
Sanchez does a great job of running around like a kamikaze when he loses the ball, but if we wanted someone to run around like a headless chicken we could just stick McTominay on the wing.
It's such an over simplification to just claim he runs like a headless chicken
Yeah he has had 16 apps (4 for us this season and clocked 2 assists). So what? Jose said to start judging his value add from this season and classed him as a player for 18/19. He knows what top players have to do to adapt and how hard it is to switch in January, so I'm inclined to give Sanchez more time beyond 4 games, especially when his stats aren't terrible.
Martial has had far more than 16 games where he's been anonymous. He's refusing to sign a new contract and looks half arsed on the pitch since I can remember. He literally has a flight attitude in a fight/flight situation since Sanchez came whereas Alexis seems to be far more of a fighter.
I know which player earns more patience out of the two, and that's aside from looking at what a beast he can be in the Premier League.
As for wages, yeah, big feck. Pogba isn't worth 200k a week, Rooney wasn't worth 250k a week and same for Falcao. But shit happens, we just have to hope they start delivering consistently when they're here.
If dropped, too right. Needs to fix up. He doesn't even shoot anymore.
Sanchez has played 4 games and created like 3 Big chances. Thought he should be on scoresheet more often, his overall contribution to the team has been good.
It's such an over simplification to just claim he runs like a headless chicken
Yeah he has had 16 apps (4 for us this season and clocked 2 assists). So what? Jose said to start judging his value add from this season and classed him as a player for 18/19. He knows what top players have to do to adapt and how hard it is to switch in January, so I'm inclined to give Sanchez more time beyond 4 games, especially when his stats aren't terrible.
Martial has had far more than 16 games where he's been anonymous. He's refusing to sign a new contract and looks half arsed on the pitch since I can remember. He literally has a flight attitude in a fight/flight situation since Sanchez came whereas Alexis seems to be far more of a fighter.
I know which player earns more patience out of the two, and that's aside from looking at what a beast he can be in the Premier League.
As for wages, yeah, big feck. Pogba isn't worth 200k a week, Rooney wasn't worth 250k a week and same for Falcao. But shit happens, we just have to hope they start delivering consistently when they're here.
Martial has shown far more than Sanchez has in a United shirt last season. It's not even remotely comparable.
Don't think he's dropped. Rested as Rashford isn't gonna play on the weekend and he needs games.
It seems like some already made an opinion on him and won't change it.It's such an over simplification to just claim he runs like a headless chicken
Yeah he has had 16 apps (4 for us this season and clocked 2 assists). So what? Jose said to start judging his value add from this season and classed him as a player for 18/19. He knows what top players have to do to adapt and how hard it is to switch in January, so I'm inclined to give Sanchez more time beyond 4 games, especially when his stats aren't terrible.
Martial has had far more than 16 games where he's been anonymous. He's refusing to sign a new contract and looks half arsed on the pitch since I can remember. He literally has a flight attitude in a fight/flight situation since Sanchez came whereas Alexis seems to be far more of a fighter.
I know which player earns more patience out of the two, and that's aside from looking at what a beast he can be in the Premier League.
As for wages, yeah, big feck. Pogba isn't worth 200k a week, Rooney wasn't worth 250k a week and same for Falcao. But shit happens, we just have to hope they start delivering consistently when they're here.
Martial's also played about 100 games for the club to Sanchez's 25. He's had more anonymous games for United because he's had more games, full stop. Giggs had more anonymous games than Martial - does that mean he was an inferior player?It's such an over simplification to just claim he runs like a headless chicken
Yeah he has had 16 apps (4 for us this season and clocked 2 assists). So what? Jose said to start judging his value add from this season and classed him as a player for 18/19. He knows what top players have to do to adapt and how hard it is to switch in January, so I'm inclined to give Sanchez more time beyond 4 games, especially when his stats aren't terrible.
Martial has had far more than 16 games where he's been anonymous. He's refusing to sign a new contract and looks half arsed on the pitch since I can remember. He literally has a flight attitude in a fight/flight situation since Sanchez came whereas Alexis seems to be far more of a fighter.
I know which player earns more patience out of the two, and that's aside from looking at what a beast he can be in the Premier League.
As for wages, yeah, big feck. Pogba isn't worth 200k a week, Rooney wasn't worth 250k a week and same for Falcao. But shit happens, we just have to hope they start delivering consistently when they're here.
On the fight/flight thing, were you making that criticism of Martial when he was scoring on his debut against our biggest rivals? Or scoring in a crucial Champions League game against Wolfsburg aged 19? Or scoring the last-minute winner in a cup semi-final?
Jesus wept. It seems all you've got to do to win over most of our fans is run after the ball when you've lost it and point at people in a spirited manner.
He's the best-paid player in the league, has a world-class reputation and 155 goals and 110 assists to his name; people can peg him to whatever benchmark they like, surely? This is his 5th season in the Premier League and he's been here 9 months now and yet still looks barely capable of making 5-yard passes to a red shirt. To say he's been disappointing, would be something of an understatement.
Unfortunately I agree with your other point - I don't think Martial is much better.
Right on point. Ozil's vision and passing ws often overlooked but it played a huge role in Sanchez game. Play him with Martial or a good passer and he will be a lot better
Watching him off the ball for us is an absolute nightmare. He has absolutely no clue how to operate in this team. Usually you let that slide with the belief that it will iron out but the one thing that is undeniable and tough to swallow is the fact that he is simply physically shot and done. He still thinks he has the body of 5-6 years ago and therefore still dribbles like that and he just doesn’t know any other way. There’s no adaptation of any other style of play at all in him and that is why he has the ridiculous ball loss stats. Need to get rid of him as soon as January. He’s robbing us each day of both money and other player potentials
Can't argue that not seen anything like what I expected from him but I can say pretty much the same for so many Utd players. Still so many unanswered questions about best positions or why our so called big players continue to not collectively put a performance together. Can you imagine how dangerous our team would be with Sanchez, Rom, Pogs, Fred and Martial firing? City and Liverpool seem to manage it????
With Jose confirming Rashford will start tomorrow, I can imagine it'll be in place of Sanchez on the left.
People expecting him to recapture his Arsenal form....he isn't surrounded by a system and players that suit the quick pass and move natural ability he has. For example, Lukaku is just not someone that will complement him all that well, like say a Giroud would.
I don't think it's a lost cause by any means - he's still managed to generate some big chances for teammates this season already. And as others have said, he offers more even when off form than the likes of Martial currently.
I don't think it's a lost cause by any means - he's still managed to generate some big chances for teammates this season already. And as others have said, he offers more even when off form than the likes of Martial currently.
I dont think he was as bad as some people made out against Watford.
Martial was cemented in the squad since he joined up until Jose challenged him. Your fight/flight example is very misguided when you point to his debut goal to clutch at straws with. When he has to fight for his position in the team with competition around him it's evident he can't much be bothered.
As for Giggs, really? You want to compare a genius playmaker and winger forever on his toes to a winger who continues to be flat footed since January? Jesus wept, I agree.
Sanchez is in his 5th season in the league and but his 1st full season under Jose mourinho who has a completely different way of playing to Pep or Wenger. Moreover he has a bunch of new team mates to get used to and clearly no patience from segments of the supporters.
Re. The bold bit, you clearly misinterpreted the entire argument if that's what you took from it. Martial hasn't performed since Sanchez came either. He has had opportunities starting when Lukaku was injured last season and off the bench otherwise and he's been half arsed. Plus he's not even bothering to commit to the club. Why the feck would any manager play him? But no, ignore all of those valid reasons and focus on the running bit.
To put it more simply, this.
Our tactics are not designed to get the best out of him as simple as that. He is a box player who rarely gets to be inside the box with the ball at his feet with time and space to shoot. Any wide player loaded with defensive duties and long ball build up will struggle to have impact on attacking side of the pitch.
After his slow start and bad first season everybody always said that he will be a different person after the summer, after a full pre-season with the club etc.
He had a full summer with no world cup to relax, train, get used to everything. Conditions can´t get any better than now, it´s time to hit form now. Now or never. I don´t see any sense to drop him again, make him fight for his place blabla. Find a position that suits him best, improve his linkup play with Lukaku (who is actually a monster in front of goal if feeded with the right balls) and make him focus on the important things, which are: running behind the lines, find spaces, assisting our strikers and score from time to time. Yes hard work and tracking back is good but it should never be his main attribute - at the moment it seems most of his performances get rated "he played bad but he tried really hard and tracked back".
He had a full summer with no world cup to relax, train, get used to everything. Conditions can´t get any better than now, it´s time to hit form now. Now or never. I don´t see any sense to drop him again, make him fight for his place blabla. Find a position that suits him best, improve his linkup play with Lukaku (who is actually a monster in front of goal if feeded with the right balls) and make him focus on the important things, which are: running behind the lines, find spaces, assisting our strikers and score from time to time. Yes hard work and tracking back is good but it should never be his main attribute - at the moment it seems most of his performances get rated "he played bad but he tried really hard and tracked back".
I was going to say that he needs to put in a good performance tonight, with it being a big stage but what should be a good game to shine.
Sounds like he might not play though, unless he's on the right or down the middle.
Sounds like he might not play though, unless he's on the right or down the middle.
£50m was like £100m+ back then. Hilarious business.
I'd let Sanchez go on a free if push came to shove at the end of the season. We'd save huge money given his salary. It might be too late though, he's fecking salary has already upset other players (Pogba, DDG).
No, I don't think Martial is better than Giggs.
I was simply referring to the comment of the previous poster - that Martial has had more average games for United than Sanchez. Of course he has, because he's had more games full stop. Following that logic, Martial is a better player than Giggs because Giggs had more average games for us.
Sorry you didn't grasp that. Perhaps I should have explained it more clearly.
Martial has been consistently average / worse than Sanchez since Sanchez arrived. So there is no value in putting him, who doesn't even want to commit to the club, ahead of Alexis.
They've both been consistently average. If anything Martial's looked more threatening in the brief amount of time he's had. And it would be interesting to see Sanchez's commitment if the roles were reversed and he was the one being frozen out.
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