This match was screaming out for Shaw's ball-playing ability. Telles is a good back-up and deserved a run with Shaw's terrible form this season, but if Shaw can get back into semi-decent form then he's obviously a couple of levels above him. It's just up to Shaw to show he deserves the spot (something I hope he does soon).
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Although sometimes he has his moments, I think, he just lacks physicality. He has no speed, stamina and strenght to be a premier league starting left back. His overlaps are lazy, he constantly gets in trouble when he tries to get back to his defensive positions, and his defending itself isn't confident at all. I miss Shaw.
He's clearly a good back up, but should be no more.
Although I find it hard to criticize him when his CB partner continually sells him short and leaves him for dead on a regular basis.
Although I find it hard to criticize him when his CB partner continually sells him short and leaves him for dead on a regular basis.
Simply not good enough to be starting games. Shaw must be given his place back asap!
Absolutely agree.
He's not been great, but he's been better than Shaw this season.
I don't think either of them is really good enough, both have poor defensive positioning and fall asleep or disappear too often.
In the long term both need to be replaced.
I don't think either of them is really good enough, both have poor defensive positioning and fall asleep or disappear too often.
In the long term both need to be replaced.
Is it me or is Telles like the Mata equivalent playing at LB?
Just a matter of time before Shaw takes back his spot, Telles has a great crossing but that's about it. Shaw is superior in pretty much everything else.
He's solid but no more than that. Surely Shaw is fit enough to start today.
Agreed, Telles works hard and tries his best, but it seems he doesn't have good understanding with Bruno & Rashford, hopefully Shaw plays today and he gets back into form.
I think people are forgetting how poor Shaw has been the last few months, accident waiting to happen. I hope he like many of our players finds some form asap. Telles isn't ideal but isn't making the mistakes Shaw has been doing this season.
I'm willing to give him way more time. We gave Shaw years and he's shown he's not the answer.
Aston Villa 2:2 Man Utd
I thought he was really, surprisingly good in the first half
Then he was total garbage in the second half.
Then he was total garbage in the second half.
Can't defend.
Nobody behind in the build up to Coutinho's goal, yet he stops running and lets Coutinho go. Bizarre. Had he kept up with him he could've stopped the equaliser. Just not switched on.
As the guy above said. Can't defend. Not a real defender. More of a wide midfielder.
Went awol for villas 2nd goal leaving PC unmarked on far post. Prefer Shaw all day long.
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Had a very good first half, looked nice linking up with Elanga.
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Shaw should've started ahead of him. Telles can't deal with the rigorous nature of the PL.
Wasn’t Shaw suspended?
You're right.
Put in a few decent balls into the box but overall he's quite a limited player. Not the best defensively either. Seems he can go awry quite easily when it comes to team shape too.
Great signing.
Great signing.
What do you want for £15m? Says everything he can keep Shaw out of the side this season.
Telles only kept his spot because he was lucky enough to start in Carrick's last game and he did well enough to warrant a run under the new manager.
However, Shaw has put in better performances than Telles lately. Shaw has created more chances and has had 2 assists in the few games he's played during Telles's run. Shaw is the much better player of the two defensively as well.
And when did that happen? Shaw’s only been on the bench twice. Right after his back to back concussions where Rangnick said he wasn’t fit to play and the match after. So Telles has really only been chosen over Shaw once all season. One match isn’t keeping him out of the side for the season.
For £15m I expect someone to be able to run faster than a walking pace, have the slightest idea of how to defend and do more attacking than just whipping in random crosses, the majority of which go directly to the keeper. He’s shite.
Shaw is better but Shaw has been kinda atrocious early in the season (especially when ole was In charge)
Telles is a good back up but should not be a starter
However he should still be ok for games like this
Telles is a good back up but should not be a starter
However he should still be ok for games like this
Villa are a very physical and fast moving team. I had doubts Telles would handle the physical aspect before the game. He's better against teams that we dominate possession wise because he has little defending to do
Yeah, that’s exactly how I saw it too. We have a bunch of players like that actually. Great for one of half a game. Diabolical in the other half. It’s weird.
I think it alludes to the mentality problem that has been discussed to death. When the going gets tough, these players crumble.
I thought he played fairly well, but his fitness isn’t great and clearly tired a lot towards the end.
I do think he’d be best as a wingback if we ever try the 352 again.
Shaw as a LCB that over laps him would be ideal,.
I do think he’d be best as a wingback if we ever try the 352 again.
Shaw as a LCB that over laps him would be ideal,.
Where was he for the equalizer? Defending the back post has been an issue for us.
Keeping him out for one game validates what I’ve said. Shaw is having a woeful season and shouldn’t expect to automatically start on Wednesday.
He was one of the best players on the pitch in the first half, go back and watch it again, he looked good down the left with Elanga. Some people on here are incapable of a balanced view of anything, 1/10 or 10/10.
He's not getting the credit he deserves, imo.
People are saying a lot of complimentary things about our first 30 minutes. That was supposedly when United were in control of the match.
Well, it wasn't really United who were in control. It was Telles. 49 touches in the first 30 minutes. Significantly more than anybody else on the pitch. He was running the show from leftback.
The last 60 minutes were when United lost their grip of the game. That was also when Telles got used less.
You could make the argument that Telles should have forced his way into the match in the final hour. That's a fair criticism. And his defending wasn't always great. But for all things he could have improved on, he did far more that was good.
Anybody who praised the first half an hour should be praising Telles doubly as much.
People are saying a lot of complimentary things about our first 30 minutes. That was supposedly when United were in control of the match.
Well, it wasn't really United who were in control. It was Telles. 49 touches in the first 30 minutes. Significantly more than anybody else on the pitch. He was running the show from leftback.
The last 60 minutes were when United lost their grip of the game. That was also when Telles got used less.
You could make the argument that Telles should have forced his way into the match in the final hour. That's a fair criticism. And his defending wasn't always great. But for all things he could have improved on, he did far more that was good.
Anybody who praised the first half an hour should be praising Telles doubly as much.
Good post, fair enough, I actually quite like Telles and never mind seeing him on the team sheet.He's not getting the credit he deserves, imo.
People are saying a lot of complimentary things about our first 30 minutes. That was supposedly when United were in control of the match.
Well, it wasn't really United who were in control. It was Telles. 49 touches in the first 30 minutes. Significantly more than anybody else on the pitch. He was running the show from leftback.
The last 60 minutes were when United lost their grip of the game. That was also when Telles got used less.
You could make the argument that Telles should have forced his way into the match in the final hour. That's a fair criticism. And his defending wasn't always great. But for all things he could have improved on, he did far more that was good.
Anybody who praised the first half an hour should be praising Telles doubly as much.
I am one of his biggest critics but he linked up really well with Bruno and Elanga especially with those one twos which made us look threatening again on the left flank. His defending always leaves a lot to be desired though
Brentford 1:3 Man Utd
He's a terrible defender. Doesn't provide enough going forward to compensate either.
Dalot Linda Varane were rock solid.
Dalot Linda Varane were rock solid.
Is Telles maybe better than Shaw? Curious to know Rangnick's take.
I thought Telles was ok. He doesn't possess Luke Shaw's talent but he seems to give 100%. Wasn't a game for his crosses, as it was far too easy for Brentford's tall central defenders to head them clear.
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