Alex Sandro | On the market in January

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I want a lb in his peak. Sick and tired of getting young players with potential for that role. We've had a problem at LB since Evra left and it needs filling yesterday.

Moreover Daniel Alves and Valencia show that that position can have longevity beyond the age of 30.

Yep, we can go the prospect route at right-back with Valencia and Young around, also with Fosu-Mensah a potential candidate there.
 
He'll be 27 in January. We can get, what, 3 good years out of him at most. Well pass his peak.

I would avoid this and go for someone younger with a high ceiling.

Good call. I like us to continue bitching about our problem at left back next year because he can't settle in. Than, watch Ashley Young rescue us again from another transfer mistake.
 
We should have signed Guilherme Arana.
It looks like Mourinho wants a more established and experienced LB to come in and perform right away. If we were going for young LB's, along with Arana, we could have moved for Tierney, Aaron Martin, Sessegnon and Gaya among others.
 
Hard to do an exact comparison, but I'd say he's similar to Alaba in a lot of aspects - fairly industrious, running almost non-stop, tall-ish for a fullback, quick in recovery despite sometimes over-committing in attack, and good on the ball in terms of passing and dribbling - though not as big of a difference maker in offense as the likes of Marcelo and Roberto Carlos in the past (Guerreiro from Dortmund is more likely to emerge as a potential matchwinner à la Marcelo) - and not as good a defender as Luís over the last half-decade. Since moving to Juventus, Sandro became a more efficient attacker and a better defender too - though his form has dipped a bit this season after emerging as one of the Top 3 leftbacks in club football in 2016/17. To get an idea of how effective he is in virtually all phases of the game when he's on form, here are a few Serie A statistics from last season:

All things considered he's a better footballer, defender and leftback than Rose, IMO. Put it this way: if non Premier League clubs were given the chance to sign Sandro/Rose - the overwhelming majority (if not all) would choose the former.


Thanks for the detailed response, with everybody saying x over y I think it's important to clarify why.

After looking at him again, I think his biggest strength is athleticism, he looks capable running the whole left flank for 90min.
 
He'll be 27 in January. We can get, what, 3 good years out of him at most. Well pass his peak.

I would avoid this and go for someone younger with a high ceiling.
White text? No? 27 is not good enough anymore? Bloody hell.
Edit: i knew it. It was strange post from you so i suspected but.. yes, i am idiot
 
He'll be 27 in January. We can get, what, 3 good years out of him at most. Well pass his peak.

I would avoid this and go for someone younger with a high ceiling.

Can't tell if joke or this is a widespread mentality on here anymore...
 
Could be on. Still haven’t signed Mourinho’s token Brazilian for our squad yet...
 
Now it gets more interesting.
 
Would be very happy with this signing but Castles recent track record is poor.
 
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So it sounds like Sandro wants to leave and Juve will only sell for a ridiculously high fee. Plus, there's the fact that Chelsea will almost definitely also make a move if he is available, so this will be a difficult transfer to get through.
 
It would be a dream. He's the second best LB in world after Marcelo. We can't get anyone better than him.
 
January is a bit premature, in my opinion. Quite a few reasons for this...

  1. Mourinho talked yesterday about giving Shaw chances this season, so if he goes and signs a new top left back in 3 weeks then that goes out the window.
  2. Ashley Young is currently playing very well and deserves to keep playing so long as he keeps delivering.
  3. We have quite a few LBs as is and need a clear out, more quality over quantity. Best time for this is the summer.

I had Shaw as certain to go (still think he'll go to be honest) but if Mou wants to give him chances, then we should re-assess the situation after those chances are given. My belief on that is that Shaw has a slim chance of reaching the level Sandro is at, while the latter is a finished product and a certainty. I would sell Darmian and one of Blind/Shaw depending on how Shaw does. Then bring a quality LB like Sandro.
 
thats the spirit.
We thought Lukaku was destined to go to Chelsea too. Anything can happen in transfers.

If we came with the proper offer we'll get him.
Scrap that, I thought they were at Chelsea together but Conte left before he joined. Castles hasn't been great for us in terms of transfer stories though so I'd take it with a pinch of salt.
 
Scrap that, I thought they were at Chelsea together but Conte left before he joined. Castles hasn't been great for us in terms of transfer stories though so I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

I agree with taking Castles with a pinch of salt, as I don't trust him much either. I was just pointing that nowadays we can't say for sure there's a destined transfer to happen and we had seen examples.
 
I agree with taking Castles with a pinch of salt, as I don't trust him much either. I was just pointing that nowadays we can't say for sure there's a destined transfer to happen and we had seen examples.
I know but with Lukaku there was the Mourinho/Pogba connection
 
He would be worth the money, even at £70m. You know what you get from him, a world class left-back.
 
Big Bald Dunc links us.


Simple diversion tactic being used by Mou mouthpiece to pressure spurs into selling and raising price for chelsea. Duncan does it for Mourinho and Mendes clients all the time.
 
Simple diversion tactic being used by Mou mouthpiece to pressure spurs into selling and raising price for chelsea. Duncan does it for Mourinho and Mendes clients all the time.
Make sense even though I still doubt Rose link. Let's us remember that Alex Sandro doesn't have European passport. It would be troublesome to obtain work permit to sign him in January with all the negotiation.
 
Make sense even though I still doubt Rose link. Let's us remember that Alex Sandro doesn't have European passport. It would be troublesome to obtain work permit to sign him in January with all the negotiation.
Not sure about the rules but he spent 5 years in portugal and 3-4 in Italy, pretty sure he must have applied for a dual citizenship?
Also he makes the Brazil squads regularly doesnt he? He should have the permit no problems unless my assumptions of the rules is shit.
 
It looks like Mourinho wants a more established and experienced LB to come in and perform right away. If we were going for young LB's, along with Arana, we could have moved for Tierney, Aaron Martin, Sessegnon and Gaya among others.

I haven't seen him but Sevilla (assuming they're still smart even with a new head in charge) paying a decent fee (for them) for him and him being in the Brazilian league team of the year and the highest rated young player in the league on whoscored (#2 being Arthur, who seems likely to go to Barca for a big fee) just seems like everything you would want to hear about from the next Brazilian LB, and considering there are always 3-4 at any given time good enough to play for the best 10 teams in the world (Alex Sandro, Marcelo, Filipe Luis and Telles and a couple others seem next), seems like a good chance of hitting.

I still don't know why we didn't sign Mendy. He's not too tiny for Mourinho (like Gaya, say) and he's a fine athlete and an even better crosser from deep which seems like what we need with our leftwinger being direct (since Martial and Rashford are closer to 9s than 10s) and not so much about intricate linking up to play the LB in on the overlap (which you get more from 10s playing wide like when Pienaar would play Baines in routinely). Effective in both 4 and 3 at the back setups. And he was proven at a high level and young, which is important at a position so based around energy and speed for like 90% of great modern fullback. I don't think there's anyone like that available this summer, unless I'm forgetting someone.
 
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