Alex Iwobi

Looking great. The one caveat is that he's done all this in a glittering attacking unit who are flying at the moment. The real test is whether he can keep playing well when they're struggling, the way both Rashford and Iheanacho, for example, have shown that they can for United and City respectively.

Iwobi came into the side at the start of the year - but we weren't playing good football at the end of last season when he was impressing.
 
He doesn't have particularly impressive pace, quickness, or dribbling ability in one-on-one situations but he has quick feet and his football IQ, movement, composure on the ball, and vision are fantastic, especially for a young player. Basically, he is the exact opposite of Oxlade-Chamberlain. He works really well in the current setup because he offers a counterpoint to Walcott - a wideplaymaker to offset a traditional winger - and because he has the movement, touch, and speed of thought to combine with players like Ozil, Cazorla, Walcott, and Sanchez in very quick sequences.

His goals+assists statistics aren't amazing (although not bad) but they really understate his contribution to our attack. He has been in the middle of a ton of flowing moves, often delivering the ball to the guy who then delivers the final ball to a goal scorer. The second goal against Chelsea is a good example.
Little bit of Muller about him. Ungainly and doesn't look super technical but always in the right place and usually delivering the right ball.
 
He's an awesome player. Himself, Alexis and Ozil make for an exciting attack.
 
He doesn't have particularly impressive pace, quickness, or dribbling ability in one-on-one situations but he has quick feet and his football IQ, movement, composure on the ball, and vision are fantastic, especially for a young player. Basically, he is the exact opposite of Oxlade-Chamberlain. He works really well in the current setup because he offers a counterpoint to Walcott - a wideplaymaker to offset a traditional winger - and because he has the movement, touch, and speed of thought to combine with players like Ozil, Cazorla, Walcott, and Sanchez in very quick sequences.

His goals+assists statistics aren't amazing (although not bad) but they really understate his contribution to our attack. He has been in the middle of a ton of flowing moves, often delivering the ball to the guy who then delivers the final ball to a goal scorer. The second goal against Chelsea is a good example.

I'm just judging him from that Twitter compilation but yeah, basically he's the glue guy, who does all the 'hard-simple' (IMMA GONNA COIN THE FECK OUT OF THIS PHRASE OKAY) stuff. Similar to what I said about Lingard in his thread, although Iwobi looks more dynamic and a more promising talent.

I kinda thought Campbell was going to be sort of like that for you guys. What happened? Looked fantastic for Costa Rica and Olympiakos.
 
He doesn't have particularly impressive pace, quickness, or dribbling ability in one-on-one situations but he has quick feet and his football IQ, movement, composure on the ball, and vision are fantastic, especially for a young player. Basically, he is the exact opposite of Oxlade-Chamberlain. He works really well in the current setup because he offers a counterpoint to Walcott - a wideplaymaker to offset a traditional winger - and because he has the movement, touch, and speed of thought to combine with players like Ozil, Cazorla, Walcott, and Sanchez in very quick sequences.

His goals+assists statistics aren't amazing (although not bad) but they really understate his contribution to our attack. He has been in the middle of a ton of flowing moves, often delivering the ball to the guy who then delivers the final ball to a goal scorer. The second goal against Chelsea is a good example.

I would agree with this assessment. He's a hugely intelligent young player.
 
Looks good, does young Alex. Who were they picking ahead of him at the U-21 level anyway??
 
Too bad wenger is going to stifle him like Wilshere Walcott chambers Ox Gibbs
 
Too bad wenger is going to stifle him like Wilshere Walcott chambers Ox Gibbs
You have zero idea what you're talking about. I suggest you go and watch our matches starting from 2006 if you really believe that. It'll only take a few days if you keep at it.
 
You have zero idea what you're talking about. I suggest you go and watch our matches starting from 2006 if you really believe that. It'll only take a few days if you keep at it.

What would that prove? That those guys weren't talented? Or that they were talented but they didn't reach their potential under Wenger?
 
What would that prove? That those guys weren't talented? Or that they were talented but they didn't reach their potential under Wenger?
That Wenger should be credited for sticking by a few of them when another manager would've flogged them in a season. Blaming him because players don't play consistently like their highlight reels on youtube is frankly ridiculous.
 
That Wenger should be credited for sticking by a few of them when another manager would've flogged them in a season. Blaming him because players don't play consistently like their highlight reels on youtube is frankly ridiculous.

One could argue that's kind of a point of a manager too. Knowing when to let a player go so that it doesn't affect the team. Depending on guys like Walcott year in year out while not going for guys like benzema or Suarez has cost you multiple times.

There isn't anything to boast about keeping players when they don't perform.
 
One could argue that's kind of a point of a manager too. Knowing when to let a player go so that it doesn't affect the team. Depending on guys like Walcott year in year out while not going for guys like benzema or Suarez has cost you multiple times.

There isn't anything to boast about keeping players when they don't perform.
You just hopped on to another point.

Where is the bit where he 'stifled' them?
 
You just hopped on to another point.

Where is the bit where he 'stifled' them?

I didn't. Stifling would mean not reaching the potential. Surely keeping players as subs without selling them is kind of stifling in itself. Like we did to an extent with Hernandez or Chelsea did to Sturridge. Chambers for instance effectively was stuck on the bench for 2 of what should have been his developing years?
 
Walcott seems to be doing very well lately.. Takes his chances well and is working really hard.. But for me Alexis has stepped it up and on his day Özil is unplayable.. Iwobi seems to fit well into this. Still have my doubts but so far so good. Not sure he would have stood out in a team with LVG as a manager.
 
Iwobi's first touch is near perfect, you can tell the whole team is happy to pass him the ball anywhere, even if he's surrounded by defenders. I love watching him play.
 
Walcott seems to be doing very well lately.. Takes his chances well and is working really hard.. But for me Alexis has stepped it up and on his day Özil is unplayable.. Iwobi seems to fit well into this. Still have my doubts but so far so good. Not sure he would have stood out in a team with LVG as a manager.

Do you think sanchez and Walcotts form is in any way related to Iwobi and his intelligence/composure to link up with them? He's involved in most their goals..
 
Do you think sanchez and Walcotts form is in any way related to Iwobi and his intelligence/composure to link up with them? He's involved in most their goals..
They seem to function very well together. I am not sure he has had more effect to Arsenal's play than Sanchez. But he has truely won many over and rightly so..
 
Walcott seems to be doing very well lately.. Takes his chances well and is working really hard.. But for me Alexis has stepped it up and on his day Özil is unplayable.. Iwobi seems to fit well into this. Still have my doubts but so far so good. Not sure he would have stood out in a team with LVG as a manager.

I think this summer if Theo had been sold nobody would have cared, some might have even celebrated. This season though he looks a different player, tracking back winning the ball back and in attack looks full of confidence. He already has 5 goals this season and just hope he can stay fit and keep this form up. Reckon he could get us 20+ goals in all competitions if he stays fit.
 
I think this summer if Theo had been sold nobody would have cared, some might have even celebrated. This season though he looks a different player, tracking back winning the ball back and in attack looks full of confidence. He already has 5 goals this season and just hope he can stay fit and keep this form up. Reckon he could get us 20+ goals in all competitions if he stays fit.

The effect of staring a move to West Ham in the face.
 
Theo always looks like a different player at the start every season though?
 
Theo always looks like a different player at the start every season though?

Not every season but quite often yeah he's looked to have turned a corner, usually followed by a injury lay off of about a year or so. I think he realises now though that the usual Theo season of a few standout performances mixed in with the average to the awful are not good enough anymore. There's too much competition for places, and no other big club will sign him if that continues.

Still has it all to prove though, like Roy said.
 
Do you think sanchez and Walcotts form is in any way related to Iwobi and his intelligence/composure to link up with them? He's involved in most their goals..

I think so to some degree. For a start Iwobi playing on the left means Sanchez has been able to be played up front.

It also means we have one wide player that won't lose the ball, compared to last season where we had Sanchez who took everyone on (and lost the ball a lot) and Ox/Walcott who are poor at keeping posession. Ozil and Cazorla trust Iwobi and pass it to him in amongst opposition defenders and you can expect he will either find another option or work past the defenders - that's something the others can't do from a standing start.
 
Theo always looks like a different player at the start every season though?

Not really, he has been pretty shit for years now. I think that is why a lot of our fans wanted him out. I think mentally he has accepted he is a right winger now and is playing like one. Before the media had him convinced he was the next Henry but that wasn't ever his best position. I think he needed the setback in the summer to give him a kick up the arse. Fair play to him, you can either sulk or actually do something about it. It looks like he is doing something about it.

Some stat I saw the other day that the most successful tackles he has made in a season was 18 in 2011/2012 after 35 games, this season he has 12 in 6 games. Him tracking back is helping us look more solid and win the ball higher up the pitch.
 
Will he be their martial

Completely different type of player, he's not really flashy and probably won't get highlights of individual goals but always gives a clever pass in the final third and moves into space. More of an Ozil type of player and actually out Oziled Ozil some games this year and last year.

You know when an attack breaks down because a player miscontrols their first touch, or gets tackled or the player misplaces a pass or the player dribbles into a poor position. That basically doesn't happen with Iwobi and he always creates space for others because of this.

Looking great. The one caveat is that he's done all this in a glittering attacking unit who are flying at the moment. The real test is whether he can keep playing well when they're struggling, the way both Rashford and Iheanacho, for example, have shown that they can for United and City respectively

Our attacking play has only been good since Chamberlain was dropped for Iwobi.

He's nothing like Rashford or Iheanacho, he's playmaker, not a striker. He was good last season when we struggled for goals. As a playmaker who isn't flashy and isn't an out and out goalscorer, opposition fans typically won't rate him as highly as fans.

I'm not saying he'll be world class or great as he isn't a great dribbler and isn't a world class athlete and doesn't have a great shot. But he's very useful.

I'm just judging him from that Twitter compilation but yeah, basically he's the glue guy, who does all the 'hard-simple' (IMMA GONNA COIN THE FECK OUT OF THIS PHRASE OKAY) stuff. Similar to what I said about Lingard in his thread, although Iwobi looks more dynamic and a more promising talent.

I kinda thought Campbell was going to be sort of like that for you guys. What happened? Looked fantastic for Costa Rica and Olympiakos.

I was disapointed Campbell was loaned out, as he is an intelligent player, high workrate, but got tired after pressing and a bit slow and his end product was average. He was better than Chamberlain and Walcott last year but probably has a lower ceiling.
 
Little bit of Muller about him. Ungainly and doesn't look super technical but always in the right place and usually delivering the right ball.

I've thought about that comparison too - obviously far fewer goals in Iwobi and not nearly the same quality or influence. But he falls into that same general category of player for whom movement, speed of thought, and decision making are their best attributes.

Completely different type of player, he's not really flashy and probably won't get highlights of individual goals but always gives a clever pass in the final third and moves into space. More of an Ozil type of player and actually out Oziled Ozil some games this year and last year.

I think Ozil really likes playing with him. I'd never really thought about this but Ozil says that he was a big fan of Jay Jay Okocha (Iwobi's uncle) growing up and it makes a bit of sense given that Okocha was a big player for both Eintracht Frankfurt and Fenerbahce in the 1990s. Now he plays with the nephew and just said that Iwobi is like a hybrid of Okocha and Edgar Davids. I don't quite understand that claim - Okocha was incredibly tricky and lightning quick - but its high praise! And very different from the exasperation you sometimes see on Ozil's face when playing with Oxlade-Chamberlain.
 
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I wonder what position he will end up in? Maybe CM if he improves the defensive side of his game.
 
Good young player who is doing well because he makes the right decision and does it quickly, has a solid all round game without being spectacular at anything. He doesn't have the X-factor to me of a Dembele, Rashford, Martial etc but he can be a good player. I like him.
 
Always impressed with Iwobi when I see him.

May not directly impact the game in terms of goals and assists but is clearly a talented useful player and still young.

May not make it to the very top, but will likely still have a more than decent career and at Arsenal too.
 
Been very impressive, and gladly our national team look to have a decent pool of talent again with the likes of him, Kelechi, Musa and Ighalo.
 
Been very impressive, and gladly our national team look to have a decent pool of talent again with the likes of him, Kelechi, Musa and Ighalo.

Is Kelechi the kid Arsenal signed?
 
Been very impressive, and gladly our national team look to have a decent pool of talent again with the likes of him, Kelechi, Musa and Ighalo.

Success and Onazi as well. Moses is decent.

Have you seen much of Chikatara?
 
Success and Onazi as well. Moses is decent.

Have you seen much of Chikatara?

Aye, Success and Onazi are talents too. Onazi is particularly key in the middle of the park I think.

Can't say I've seen much of Chikatara though.
 
How was Iwobi rated as a youth player? Really nice player.

Not really, he has been pretty shit for years now. I think that is why a lot of our fans wanted him out. I think mentally he has accepted he is a right winger now and is playing like one. Before the media had him convinced he was the next Henry but that wasn't ever his best position. I think he needed the setback in the summer to give him a kick up the arse. Fair play to him, you can either sulk or actually do something about it. It looks like he is doing something about it.

Some stat I saw the other day that the most successful tackles he has made in a season was 18 in 2011/2012 after 35 games, this season he has 12 in 6 games. Him tracking back is helping us look more solid and win the ball higher up the pitch.

I've said something similar about Walcott recently, I think he's definitely changed his mentality this season.