If you think a handful of goals following a purple patch that tailed off is a good indicator of his total quality as a player then sure. The eye test tells you a hell of a lot more about where Garnacho is as a player.
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If you think a handful of goals following a purple patch that tailed off is a good indicator of his total quality as a player then sure. The eye test tells you a hell of a lot more about where Garnacho is as a player.
You're talking amortized costs for this year, we still pay the whole amount over time, and that has its own consequences, no? That's how are still stuck with a failed 60m bet, Casemiro, as an unsellable asset on massive wages.
If after Garnacho Brexit Jim starts the same move on Mainoo, I'm done until Ratcliffe is gone
We obviously have different opinions on him so fair enough but again he’s only 20 I don’t think he could have done much more to prove himself. This is a league that a young Salah and De Bruyne couldn’t perform in, Amad had a failed loan at Rangers, Saliba had to be loaned out about 3 times before he was ready, Grealish was playing Championship football all at Garnacho’s age
Anyway game time I’ll be back when Garnacho bags
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I think most people think anything over £50m is probably good business for United. Most people rate Garnacho but it's only a few who seem to think he has a 'high ceiling' and keep throwing around names like Ronaldo when his numbers are mentioned. Most people see a decent player who will be lucky to emulate Nani one day in terms of ability and success.
I don't understand your point? If we sell him for £50m, we make £50m profit, not £20m. He's classed as home grown, it's 100% profit on the books. Genuine world class players aren't that inconsistent at any age. They're not effective in games some times but they aren't running down blind alleys, they aren't over complicating the final pass or not passing when the forward is open, they're not taking pot shots and not tracking back. This isn't inconsistency, it's habitual behaviour, it's basics.
If we had a genuine top talent we wouldn't even be having this discussion, we'd just know it. It would be clear to see.
The day we start signing players like Jude Bellingham from Birmingham and telling him we'll let him go to Madrid in 3 seasons, we'll give him guaranteed game time and a buyout clause to make it easy for him to leave is the day we become a selling club. Allowing Sancho to sleep in late and miss meetings choosing to ignore that behaviour because we plan on selling him in a season anyway is the day we become a selling club. Selling Garnacho for £70m is just good business.
Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying and my stance is that unless Napoli find £70m they can whistle. I'd rather keep him for 3 years and see how he develops. Worst case he doesn't kick on and we can hopefully get £30m for him anyway at that point.
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I wouldn’t be buying anyone over 25.
Sorry misunderstood what you were trying say. Yes, agree, I am 100% sure wile will get a better player as a replacement from outside. Even, some in the youth are already technically better at the same age like Ibragimov.
Totally agree, take a long term approach. If 3 out of 5 make it then the other two will be sold without stupid contracts.
He ended last season with 9G/4A, Hojlund with 15G/2A, and Mount with 1G.
My eye test showed me a goal of the season, good initiative and creativity, often let down by raw decision making for the shot / killer pass that 19 year old wingers tend to improve over time.
Still a good bet. Man United get more value now by keeping Garnacho than by selling him for his market price or even a little above.
£70 million you say?
And he thinks he's worth more than £50k a week 
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Watch Dibling and then tell me Garnacho is an obvious “world class talent”
His technique is so poor for how much people rate him
His technique is so poor for how much people rate him
What is Amorim going to say? He's is not going to say he is a poor for my system, is he? Amorim has to work with the best he has right now.
It is both a PSR issue and a case of finding someone who better fits the system. If Garnacho was a perfect fit, then there would be no discussion about a transfer.
He looks physical but scored 3 goals in 20 games this season
40m is the starting price for any half decent players nowadays
Playing like Simple Jack tonight
Said it yesterday but I just don’t think he’s that good. He’s only hyped because of a couple of wonder goals. His footballing ability is not top level and that’s got nothing to do with tonight’s game
Yet that’s absolutely what people do when they talk about transfers here.
They focus on a players purple patch and then say « if we had proper scouts/structure/DOF/manager (chose your culprit), that’s the kind of signings we should have made! » then said player fades away and cycle starts again with a new player.
We should have absolutely bought Ferguson, kept Garner and Iqbal, sold Diallo, buy Mitoma and Denis Zakaria and so many more I’m forgetting
Hes been our best attacker except his very poor finish. Happy with what ive seen so far
He's been awful and missed a sitter
Hes been terrible for christs sake.
He certainly has initiative which is a good thing. I think he also shows a real lack of understanding for the game.
If you lot think he's a 70m player god knows what you think Amad is worth.
Living in a dream world youWho has been better? Fernandes or Hojlund
Didnt answer the questionLiving in a dream world you
Scared?
Hows Yoro been by the way?
Pretty sure this thread is about Garnacho buddy. Why would I come into a Garnacho thread and start discussing Yoro, Bruno or Hojlund.Didnt answer the question
Scared?
Hows Yoro been by the way?
Our attack is piss poor, and last time I checked he played in attack
Didnt answer the question
Scared?
Hows Yoro been by the way?
It's a poor question because they've all been awful. He just happened to miss the easiest chance of the game so he'll get the criticism.
Arbitrary and speculative percentages aside, this misses the rather significant point that perhaps Garnacho just doesn’t suit Amorim’s system as well as other players might. He’s not a 10 and he’s not a WB. Maybe he can be coached into being one of those, but maybe not.
Again what is this guys standout trait that has everyone convinced he’s a future star?
“Good creativity” even though Garnacho ranks essentially at the bottom for any sort of passing metrics. He had a decent run of assists when he played on the right because it forced him to use his strong foot to pass and not just cut in and shoot, but he was hardly creating chances for fun.
“Good creativity” even though Garnacho ranks essentially at the bottom for any sort of passing metrics. He had a decent run of assists when he played on the right because it forced him to use his strong foot to pass and not just cut in and shoot, but he was hardly creating chances for fun.
Both have been shitDidnt answer the question
Scared?
Hows Yoro been by the way?
How valuable is Garnacho actually to this team?
He has one standout quality and that is his level of entitlement.