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Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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Clearly wants rid
When does the transfer window close - tonight? Presumably no deal is coming through, so does that mean we stood strongly by our valuation and decided not to sell because no buyer came in at the right price? Or was there a hint of lighting a fire under Garnacho's ass with all the transfer talk? I'd presume not the latter because the chatter on bids/ transfers was quite high so felt like an actual deal was indeed being considered
It closes Monday night
Clearly wants rid
Don't get rid. He's mint and will get better. Only 20 ffs.
Come on United, don’t be a dick.
I must say, I thought we should take 60/70m for him but in the last few games, he has shown that we need him, especially with Rashford out, we need someone with pace and directness.
I still think long term we need better, so the offer has to be north of £80m for us to sell.
I still think long term we need better, so the offer has to be north of £80m for us to sell.
Not sure if you were implying that the club wants to sell Garnacho but the headline is likely based on the quote below, which more or less implies the reverse in regards to Garnacho. Amorim was also full of praise for Garnacho's recent improvements during the press conference.
“That part is true [clubs being able to raise money by selling Academy players] but I want players like Kobbie and Garnacho. The focus is that we have to improve our Academy and you have to bring more. Because that is something all the clubs in England have to take advantage of – the players who came from the Academy. To play, to feel the shirt and also to sell. So, our focus is to bring more. The rest, I just want to prepare with both of them for the next game.”
Would not be surprised if he stays now!
*more quotes to the above tweet from Fabrizio tweet
*more quotes to the above tweet from Fabrizio tweet
He called both garnacho and rashford out.
One reacted correctly and will become better. One did not.
We need to right kind of players and I believe amorium was testing that and got his answers.
One reacted correctly and will become better. One did not.
We need to right kind of players and I believe amorium was testing that and got his answers.
I’ll be relieved if we get to the end of Monday and he’s still a United player I have to say. Been a couple of times this window I thought he was off. Hoping there isn’t some kind of late twist.
For the love of God, do not sell this guy. He's one of our few shining lights.
If he played for someone else and we were linked with him, people would be absolutely salivating over his YouTube highlight reel, as well as THAT goal, and saying how he's only 20 and he's already this good, we've got to get him etc.
The manager's comments seem pretty clear, he wants him here. Hopefully that means he's staying. Serious clubs do not flog off their best prospects. I'd be utterly disgusted with the club if we sell him.
If he played for someone else and we were linked with him, people would be absolutely salivating over his YouTube highlight reel, as well as THAT goal, and saying how he's only 20 and he's already this good, we've got to get him etc.
The manager's comments seem pretty clear, he wants him here. Hopefully that means he's staying. Serious clubs do not flog off their best prospects. I'd be utterly disgusted with the club if we sell him.
If we didn't have Garnacho he is the player we would all be looking to sign. He is clearly one of the best young players in the world and his stats back this up. He is one of the very few players we have to make us exciting to watch, yes not everything comes off, but he's 20, that's how things work, your decision making gets better as your get more experience, but the raw talent is clearly there. He is literally the only thing in the last handful of games that makes us somewhat watchable, he's unpredictable, exciting and productive.
I can't wrap my head around the idea of selling him. There literally isn't a player we could sign with this money that would make me less upset. Not saying Garnacho is currently the best, but I would rather invest the time and effort into Garnacho so he becomes one of the best, instead of going out and buying some somebody else's player. This is literally what United is all about.
Kudos to Amorim and Garnacho for putting this all on the club, Amorim clearly wants him, glad all those Glazer apologists can no longer hide behind the idea it's tactical, and Garnacho clearly wants to play here. If, god forbid, he is sold, it's 100% on the club and this fanbase needs to let them know this is not acceptable at United to sell our future, for any reason.
I can't wrap my head around the idea of selling him. There literally isn't a player we could sign with this money that would make me less upset. Not saying Garnacho is currently the best, but I would rather invest the time and effort into Garnacho so he becomes one of the best, instead of going out and buying some somebody else's player. This is literally what United is all about.
Kudos to Amorim and Garnacho for putting this all on the club, Amorim clearly wants him, glad all those Glazer apologists can no longer hide behind the idea it's tactical, and Garnacho clearly wants to play here. If, god forbid, he is sold, it's 100% on the club and this fanbase needs to let them know this is not acceptable at United to sell our future, for any reason.
I do think that his change in mentality has helped him here. After him and Rashford were dropped, Garnacho didn't start another game until Arsenal in the cup. Then reports came out saying around 55m -60m a deal can be done.
Now, since then Amorim's comments dont seem of a manager who wants to let him go, he has been very positive about his attitude and yesterday has come out saying he has changed everything.
Then we also see reports that the price has gone up to 80m. Might be a hint that the club changing their mind on selling him?
We should keep him at least until summer. If we do decide to sell him, we'll get more in the summer market.
Some section of United fans have some weird issue with Garnacho. He is an academy graduate and both ETH and Amorim is picking him ahead of their favourites. He must be doing something right
I really hope so. You can already see the change in his game as well, now he's looking to pass rather than try and shoot every single time. If he keeps doing that he'll become a huge threat.
And based on the manager's comments he's responded in the right way to criticism and come back better. That's the kind of mentaility you want in your squad. The Anti-Rashford, if you will.
Ok, I've changed my mind. I don't want him sold now. He has started doing things that he wasn't doing with Ten Hag. That cutback for Mainoo's goal would've never happened with Ten Hag. He always took the shot with the left leg, where he can not generate power or precision. He is running more, losing fewer balls, and from what the coach is saying, he is starting to actually listen. He seems to be understanding the positioning more.
I just hope some of the off-field drama goes as well.
I just hope some of the off-field drama goes as well.
This is what we want as fans though, especially with young players. Take what the manager is telling you and implement it in your game.
He could easily have moaned and pushed for a move, it was the easy way out.
Instead he decided to put his head down, take what the manager is saying and improve his game for the team, for himself too.
His recent performances have been really good imo, I have been very critical of him in the past but its good to see a young player look to improve.
Especially when senior players have poor mentality.
Stupid question. If united sell Garnacho for say 50 Mil as this is the figure most frequently used . How much would it cost to get a similar player back as Quenda is being priced at 60 Mil in the summer and not as much a forward player? And what player would you pick to replace him?
yes lets keep, the lad's coming good
Still standing by Hojlund can be a special player but Garnacho can't?
It would be really odd if he leaves now.
He's been playing a lot, is starting to play better, Amorim speaks positively of him, the transfer noise has quietened down, and there's just 3 days left. I expect he'll probably start on Sunday too. And I've no idea what we expect to do with the money given there would be no time to spend it, or what benefit we'd get out selling him now vs selling him in the summer.
It just doesn't have the feel of a player about to leave.
He's been playing a lot, is starting to play better, Amorim speaks positively of him, the transfer noise has quietened down, and there's just 3 days left. I expect he'll probably start on Sunday too. And I've no idea what we expect to do with the money given there would be no time to spend it, or what benefit we'd get out selling him now vs selling him in the summer.
It just doesn't have the feel of a player about to leave.
I think he’ll stay. And I’m glad. We need him.
Yea if we sell him we need to replace him with a 10 or 9 with pace.
If the manager is happy with him and thinks he can use him, fair enough.
It's interesting but it is the first manager since SAF where I feel the same, if he's happy, I'm happy.
3 more sleeps then we can relax until the summer
Why is Amorim saying these things when the transfer window is almost closed? Could've said it a lot sooner. Looks like they wanted to sell but it fell short and are now trying to save face...
Good. Hopefully he is staying.
Or maybe he was willing to sell and changed his mind over other matters, such as what he's seen from Garnacho.
The thing with Garnacho is we’ve signed a lot of players over the years and they haven’t worked out. Many have looked good elsewhere before they play for us. I see a lot of risk in losing a player like Garnacho and trying to sign a “better” replacement.
One of the best things about him as we already know that the shirt doesn’t weigh too heavy on him. He can handle the pressure and the expectations of being a United player. For me, he has the right amount of confidence and that little bit of arrogance that you need to play for us. I’m glad it looks increasingly like he will stay. I think letting him go would have proved a big mistake.
One of the best things about him as we already know that the shirt doesn’t weigh too heavy on him. He can handle the pressure and the expectations of being a United player. For me, he has the right amount of confidence and that little bit of arrogance that you need to play for us. I’m glad it looks increasingly like he will stay. I think letting him go would have proved a big mistake.
Good point, agreed.
Me too.
Why are you even perpetuating the idea this was a tactical decision from Amorim, this was always about money, the owners, and debt. They didn't make the decision to sell one of our most promising players and valuable assets because in the first 3 weeks Amorim didn't like him. It's just an unrealistic assertion, or if in the unlikely scenario of being true, an absolutely ridiculous way to run a football team.
Selling Garnacho was always about money and anyone suggesting otherwise is just doing work for the Glazers and needs to have a rethink.
Let’s be real, we all knew Garnacho needs a bit of sorting out given his character. In an era known for difficulties navigating coach player relationships given the level of player power and status and influence they carry, Amorim seems like the perfect guy to walk the fine line of being a positive, relatable figure and consistent, stern but fair standard setter and authority figure. A bit unfortunate that the culture around the club has devolved to the point where a manager trying to fix that culture is met with so much push back, but refreshing to see a talent like Garnacho respond so positively.
Moving forward, I think he’s proven with this that anyone not willing to put in the work or meet those standards is a player who shouldn’t be at the club, much like SAF ran things. Damning evidence against Rashford, and lends credence to the fact that Amorim is telling the truth about how he’d still be willing to bring Rashford back into the fold and that it’s nothing personal, just business and holding firm to boundaries and standards set by the authority at the club.
Moving forward, I think he’s proven with this that anyone not willing to put in the work or meet those standards is a player who shouldn’t be at the club, much like SAF ran things. Damning evidence against Rashford, and lends credence to the fact that Amorim is telling the truth about how he’d still be willing to bring Rashford back into the fold and that it’s nothing personal, just business and holding firm to boundaries and standards set by the authority at the club.
I think you misunderstand, I am meaning if he wants to keep him, I personally don't care.
This makes no sense. I mean, he couldn't really say Garnacho had responded well to the situation until... Garnacho responded well to the situation.
Clearly wants rid
Of course he wants to get rod of him. This is the same manager who wants Rashford out and and and….