Alas poor Carrick...WTF has happened?

Absolute Fruit Cake said:
No, he did not!
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He won't on a regular basis, but last year he did actually catch up with him and muscled Yaya off the ball.

Absolute Fruit Cake said:
Yaya is not being praise for being a man possessed, right? He does so for the individual impact he had on the match. Carrick does not do that. I'm not saying Carrick is ineffective, just that he does not turn up for all the big matches. His performance also seems to degrade everytime opponents play a fast pressing game.

I don't know, maybe if Fellaini is instructed to take the ball forward, then our midfield might be better.
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Again, I just don't understand your arguments. "Yaya is not being praised for being a man possessed, right?" What does that even mean?

Neville said he thought Scholes was better than Lampard and Gerrard not for his individual achievements but for the way he dictated matches with posession, when to speed up the game, when to slow down the game etc. To a lesser extent, that is what Carrick also does. At the same time he's a decent tackler and very good at intercepting. His passing is also very, very good.
 
Quite poor. Ponderous on the ball. Didn't support the defence either. I thought in the first half Anderson was better. He atleast passed the ball forward and created something. Carrick - zilch
 
He needs to get his finger out. He was a passenger in the first half and was slightly better in he second... Though it's still far from the level we expect from him.
 
Seemed to go into a shell after the yellow card. His passing was fine but he barely provided any cover for the defence. Kept having sessegnon run around/through him.

I suppose its typical Carrick though. He starts slow but finishes a season strong.
 
It's happening again where the person next to him is changing every single game. He always goes into crab mode when that happens.

I'm sure he'll kick on once November comes round in typical Carrick fashion but we need him to do the business asap.
 
He needs to stop whacking straight balls up at forwards who are marked, they are practically impossible to control. He does it constantly, and it's simply giving the ball away.
 
Maybe strikers could learn to move into better positions and actually learn to control the ball for a change.
 
Amar__ said:
Maybe strikers could learn to move into better positions and actually learn to control the ball for a change.
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No he was taking too long on the ball.

Complete passenger. Anderson was better than him in the first half in my opinion. Despite everything Anderson is still the best CM we have who takes things forward which is quite unbelievable
 
My mate rang me this morning (I fell asleep 5 minutes into the first half cause I played cricket during the day and batted all day) ranting and raving about how he wants Carrick gone. Which was a bit funny because we play the 'he hates him, I stick up for him' shtick and I enjoy it, it's fun.

He said in particular he was smoking lasers to people that were impossible to control the entire game. :lol: Can't say I couldn't believe that.

edit: Oh someone said that above. :lol:.
 
Yikes in the second half when they cut through us and Jones (who was forced to foul and receive a yellow) went utterly mental at Carrick who was just jogging back. Weird, I just watched MOTD and there were a few instances of him just ambling through the shot after they cut right through us and had a chance. The second goal as well. He just comes jogging through the shot as if not really knowing what he'd been doing :lol:.

There is, still for me, HUGE question marks over his defensive ability on the counter. Where his supposed 'great reading of the play' is just non existent.
 
ghaliboy said:
There is, still for me, HUGE question marks over his defensive ability on the counter. Where his supposed 'great reading of the play' is just non existent.
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I did mention this before. Give him time and space and Carrick can operate fluently, but against a pacy opponent, who presses up the pitch, he is woefully inadequate. Liverpool, City & WBA all proves this.
 
Interviewed on SSN just now. Said he really wants to stay at the club and would love to sign a new contract. His existing one is up at the end of the season so he's one that we should really tie up because as a free agent surely he'd draw the attention of a lot of continental clubs.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
Interviewed on SSN just now. Said he really wants to stay at the club and would love to sign a new contract. His existing one is up at the end of the season so he's one that we should really tie up because as a free agent surely he'd draw the attention of a lot of continental clubs.
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I think he's a bit like Rio in that he's well and truely settled in the area, happy at the club, the club are happy with him so there is no pressure on the Contract. Just a formality.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
Interviewed on SSN just now. Said he really wants to stay at the club and would love to sign a new contract. His existing one is up at the end of the season so he's one that we should really tie up because as a free agent surely he'd draw the attention of a lot of continental clubs.
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At his age ? You think so ? English players (specially older ones) aren't known to be travelers.
 
kouroux said:
At his age ? You think so ? English players (specially older ones) aren't known to be travelers.
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But as far as English players go - Carrick is very un-English. (hence why he never got a look-in for England until recently).

There would certainly be interested if we let him go.. whether, he'd want to go abroad himself is another thing, but he'd be amazing in somewhere like Italy.
 
He'll sign new contract, it's just how we usually do with players in their thirties, they usually get two year contract(one+one), and Carrick deserves big money, he is our most important player.
 
Carrick would do well in Italy. If I was him I could see the appeal in that at some point, winding down his career somewhere sunny and beautiful, in a league that may as well have been designed to perfectly complement his skill set. But I wouldnt worry about tying him up in the sense of worrying he will get away, I think he would stay with us as long as we wanted to keep him. Tho I am basing that on nothing in particular, maybe he would be up for listening to other offers if we left it too long... I cant see it but who knows.
 
BTW, I'm not saying I think that Carrick would want to go, but I'd rather not have some Milan type team dangle an offer in front of him especially if this isn't a good season for us.
 
He's started this season below par. We need him to pick it up soon given the quality of our other midfielders.
 
Doesn't this happen basically every year? He takes a few games to get going and the proceeds to be unplayable for a while during the mid-season. He's 32 though so his level may drop a tad even if he never relied much on his physicality. He'll have to be replaced a couple of seasons down the line but we seem to have sorted that out with the purchase of Fellaini.
 
kouroux said:
At his age ? You think so ? English players (specially older ones) aren't known to be travelers.
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There'd be quite a few clubs willing to take a punt, Milan and Inter for starters. He could be a hit in Italy and I'm sure he'd at least consider a move to a country like that to see out his career, 2 or 3 years outside England couldn't hurt.
 
Sarni said:
There'd be quite a few clubs willing to take a punt, Milan and Inter for starters. He could be a hit in Italy and I'm sure he'd at least consider a move to a country like that to see out his career, 2 or 3 years outside England couldn't hurt.
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Yeah it's impossible I suppose, just that it'd be weird to have an english player as old and as good as him playing abroad. Carrick is important for Utd, I hope he gets the extension and retires at Old Trafford.
 
Probably one of the few English players that would do well overseas. Actually, he'd dominate the Italian league. He has been pissing on Italian club midfields for years.
 
Sarni said:
Doesn't this happen basically every year? He takes a few games to get going and the proceeds to be unplayable for a while during the mid-season. He's 32 though so his level may drop a tad even if he never relied much on his physicality. He'll have to be replaced a couple of seasons down the line but we seem to have sorted that out with the purchase of Fellaini.
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I don't think Carrick has ever been a player that's ever been unplayable. But yeah he gets better as the season goes on. At
Least that's been the case during his better seasons.
 
Seen a lot of posters criticise him in the match thread. Don't know why. He's looked good under pressure and made a couple of important tackles.
 
Carrick, and Adnan have been United's best players in the first 45 minutes.
 
Sultan said:
Carrick, and Adnan have been United's best players in the first 45 minutes.
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Agreed. I'd also add Nani in there. Usually Carrick struggles under intense pressure, but he's done really well. One of his best games this season.
 
Yup played well. Looks like the fate of our season rests on him single-handedly holding up our midfield.... again.
 
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