There's no way anyne can honestly think Carrick played well in that game. He was utterly pathetic.
There's some kind of Scott Parker syndrome going on with him and you lot...he can spend the entire game completely failing to do his job, but as long as he passes the ball a few times and is so far out of position that he's not actually on the tv screen, he played "quite well"
Can someone explain to me what exactly it was that Carrick did well yesterday?
He provided less protection to the back four than Wayne Rooney and offered the sum total of feck all when we were in possession...every single attack went through Scholes...every single Aston Villa attack went past Michael Carrick.
If he was a new player who we'd signed in the summer he'd have been relegated to the Bebe Basement by now.
It's because Michael Carrick plays in a way that when he's good you don't really notice what he's doing, and when he's bad you notice only that we're getting battered defensively because he just goes missing.There's no way anyne can honestly think Carrick played well in that game. He was utterly pathetic.
There's some kind of Scott Parker syndrome going on with him and you lot...he can spend the entire game completely failing to do his job, but as long as he passes the ball a few times and is so far out of position that he's not actually on the tv screen, he played "quite well"
Can someone explain to me what exactly it was that Carrick did well yesterday?
He provided less protection to the back four than Wayne Rooney and offered the sum total of feck all when we were in possession...every single attack went through Scholes...every single Aston Villa attack went past Michael Carrick.
If he was a new player who we'd signed in the summer he'd have been relegated to the Bebe Basement by now.
It doesn't work against any team. There are just teams who we can sort of get away with it against.
A bit like how putting Macheda in goal wouldn't work in any game, but you might get away with it at home to Reading providing they didn't get any shots on target all game.
Cleverley, Anderson, Fletcher, all could make a claim for his place in the side.
It's because Michael Carrick plays in a way that when he's good you don't really notice what he's doing, and when he's bad you notice only that we're getting battered defensively because he just goes missing.
Carrick is the most pointless midfielder we have in my honest opinion, he cedes any ball playing ability to Scholes when he's played alongside him, he's so unmobile that I think Carragher and Mertersacker would probably win in a race and that costs us defensively and it's frustrating.
It's frustrating because you can tell in the fleeting times he does impose himself that he's a very good footballer, he's a great passer, he reads the game as well as anyone, he's a good finisher and he can shield the defence if he's not paired alongside a man who will also not do any running. It's a crying shame, because he's too old to change his demeanor.
I do believe our defensive worries begin with Carrick. He's slow at tracking back, offers squat cover for the back four, the opposition midfield goes through him like he's a passenger. Baffling really how he's still starting given his form and general level last 2 years...
While he certainly hasn't been as good as last season, it's bizarre that people are criticising his performance against Aston Villa. We dominated the match and it was not as comfortable as it should have been due to poor defending by Smalling for their first goal, and ineffectual bordering on terrible displays from the wingers. Carrick made 133 passes, and United had 70% possession, totals likely to be among the highest all season.
But of course people will not let actual facts get in the way of their agendas. If you repeat a lazy, unperceptive, and blatantly untrue analysis of Carrick's performance often enough, it will become fact. Carrick has played in every minute of every Premier League match so far this season, but of course Ferguson is wrong and Carrick offers nothing to the team.
Who do you suggest we play instead of him?
I wouldn't say they start with carrick. Scholes is far worse in most cases, which leaves the centre exposed which can't be covered by Carrick alone.I do believe our defensive worries begin with Carrick. He's slow at tracking back, offers squat cover for the back four, the opposition midfield goes through him like he's a passenger. Baffling really how he's still starting given his form and general level last 2 years...
.But of course people will not let actual facts get in the way of their agendas. If you repeat a lazy, unperceptive, and blatantly untrue analysis of Carrick's performance often enough, it will become fact. Carrick has played in every minute of every Premier League match so far this season, but of course Ferguson is wrong and Carrick offers nothing to the team.
The problem is that there is no alternative to Carrick. Fletcher/Jones could be but they're both out. I'm still waiting for the day Carrick, being a senior player, actually comes out of his shell and takes more responsibility for controlling our midfield. He is really devoid of any footballing personality.
The problem is that there is no alternative to Carrick. Fletcher/Jones could be but they're both out. I'm still waiting for the day Carrick, being a senior player, actually comes out of his shell and takes more responsibility for controlling our midfield. He is really devoid of any footballing personality.[/QUOTE
You will be waiting a long time Freak he is not Roy Keane. But why not instead of getting frustrated just enjoy the elegant midfield player that is Michael Carrick? Outside Gerrard he is right now the best English midfielder in the country and he's ours. I'm glad to have him he's very underrated in my opinion but I remember the days of Rio and Rooney in midfield and Djemba Djemba O'shea and Miller.
I may be watching a different game but i think he was probably one of our best player against Arsenal.
The problem is that there is no alternative to Carrick. Fletcher/Jones could be but they're both out. I'm still waiting for the day Carrick, being a senior player, actually comes out of his shell and takes more responsibility for controlling our midfield. He is really devoid of any footballing personality.
You will be waiting a long time Freak he is not Roy Keane. But why not instead of getting frustrated just enjoy the elegant midfield player that is Michael Carrick? Outside Gerrard he is right now the best English midfielder in the country and he's ours. I'm glad to have him he's very underrated in my opinion but I remember the days of Rio and Rooney in midfield and Djemba Djemba O'shea and Miller.
I'm kinda surprised of some of the comments about Carrick, for me he is integral to our play, his passing and reading of the game is second to none.
If he was Italian we would rave about him but because he is english who likes to pass the ball it is frowned upon!!!!
The problem is that there is no alternative to Carrick. Fletcher/Jones could be but they're both out. I'm still waiting for the day Carrick, being a senior player, actually comes out of his shell and takes more responsibility for controlling our midfield. He is really devoid of any footballing personality.
Well that's why we're starting with 3 in midfield(or should be starting with 3 in midfield anyway since we don't have 2 quality midfielders to run the game in the center).I wouldn't say they start with carrick. Scholes is far worse in most cases, which leaves the centre exposed which can't be covered by Carrick alone.
Except last season he was very good.
He was hit and miss. Nowhere near his first years alongside younger Scholes in the team and nowhere near consistent throughout the season. He started off picked up and finished well.
Bar the first couple of months he was excellent throughout. Stop rewriting history, he really was good last year.
Which makes this season all the more disappointing.
As I said he finished very well I agree with that but from the start of the season till end of November he was all over the place in most games.
Overall very good season given the season before, but he really didn't set the bar too high.
Come on, that's just not true is it? In fact, it's a whole load of nonsense! The first game he started was against Swansea in the middle of November! Before which he had only made a handful of sub appearances (where he looked fine might I add) due to injury problems and the form of others.
Still, he made his first start in November, and what's that? Why he won the (prestigious) "Redcafe player of the month" award for that month, see:
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/player-month-november-2011-a-345002/
Carrick isn't at his best at the moment, but don't start being all revisionist
Come on, that's just not true is it? In fact, it's a whole load of nonsense! The first game he started was against Swansea in the middle of November! Before which he had only made a handful of sub appearances (where he looked fine might I add) due to injury problems and the form of others.
I think you are revising history here.
