The problem is that no one else in our midfield can do the build-up work that Casemiro has been tasked to do. I don't think Ugarte can excel at the build-up role either, unfortunately. The re-build is an ongoing process with or without ETH. Slot's comments on us are pretty generic but currently used by a segment of our fans to chase ETH out. Most of what he said can be applied to City by the way. We beat them the same way.
Adrien Rabiot - you're not going to believe this but his Mum is his agent and a circus
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I don't think he tells him that. Mainoo and even Bruno don't get rid of it as quickly as Casemiro, and neither did Amrabat nor Eriksen. Casemiro is just not great under pressure which is why he does it. He had some periods and games at Madrid where his passing looked as awful as we've seen with United. It's not a surprise for this to be a much more frequent occurrence when he's older and in a tougher league.
I got my fingers burnt with Tosin. I thought that he would provide cheap cover for our CB. Turned out that he would not. His outrageous salary would have upset the wage structure as players would be asking why United's 3rd-4th choice CB is earning more then they do. Rabiot is a similar type of player. On paper he seems the perfect deal and yet no one is touching him. I think what he is asking far exceeds anything that would make sense
Yeah until I see talk from reliable Utd sources he's willing to lower his demands I remain skeptical
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The obsession with this guy.
And we have the same ever summer.
It's another Gaitan job
And we have the same ever summer.
It's another Gaitan job
Yeah I am obsessed because would be useful addition to squad who is lacking midfield depth
This would be a woodward regime type of signing.
We're trying to get RID of these primadonnas and malcontents. Not add more.
We're trying to get RID of these primadonnas and malcontents. Not add more.
If we can negotiate a reasonable wage (we won't) he'd be a good addition. Our midfield is pathetic, beggars can't be choosers.
Exactly but some just see him and his mum as toxic
Why is there (seemingly) so little interest in this guy?
Can only think it's wage and contract demands
He's gonna derail his career for money as many players are nowadays.
I’m not up to speed, but what were Tosins demand/what is he earning at Chelsea?
Would be cool if he counts as homegrown then. Would make him my first choice to replace Shaw. He was solid in every game he played at the African nations cup.
Because his mom is greedy.
Its around 120k which would be around to what Martinez and Yoro (ie the most promising young CB in the world) is earning.
Yeah, that would’ve caused major discontent in the squad. It’s funny, it seemed like Woodward and his cronies were handing out circa £100k contracts like candy during their reign, so I didn’t even bat an eyelid when you said £120k for a “squad player”….but yeah, the new regime at least seems much more competent and getting us back on the right track in terms of squad building and not just rewarding players for the sake thereof.
We all hate super agents but they have a role in football. I remember Mino explaining his role in an interview at the pool with a certain Balotelli. It happened just after the Pogba-Man utd deal. He explained how he spent 50% of his time working on that deal and another 50% of the time, cap in hand while trying to find a club for Balotelli. This season United would have struggled big time if it wasn't for Pimenta (Mazraoui and De Ligt) and Mendes (Yoro and Ugarte) who facilitated the deal.
Players with family members as agents usually lack guidance. I remember Wanda crying her eyes off on live telly because Icardi was stripped of the captain band which was the first major push out of the club. Not only she made Icardi look stupid but it ruined any power he might have had on the negotiation table
No. We never were, it is all clickbait. Sneijder mk2.
Some might say that he was a free agent but that's not how players would see it. The way they would see it is that United's 4th choice is being paid as much as United's best CB. That would cause unrest
The problem is winning begets more winning. If we miss out on the UCL again it'll cost us $50M, which could've pay for the additional midfield signing.
I'm not saying Rabiot is the answer, nor that we shouldn't have patience. But if we're currently one midfielder away, we should try to address that. It's not even just injuries; you want to have at least one midfield sub without a huge dropoff. I hope Casemiro is still at that level.
If his money was managed well he's probably on a situation where he could realistically stop playing football at any point. De Gea waited a year to find the right club he wanted to go to. Rabiot is not a GK and a little younger, so 6 months of inactivity may be a little more impacting. He also probably need to play in club to keep being selected in the NT (not necessarily though)... But he could absolutely take a sabbatical and find a contract (not at a top club perhaps).
Honestly that's kind of the life to be in a position where you can say "my way or the highway" and hold up for better conditions / clubs that have your preference.
I don't know if registration close much latter elsewhere but I suppose we'll hear about his whereabouts within the week.
Were we ever? I would hope you would know, you've mentioned him all summer.
He's not in the position to say "my way or the highway". He's in a highly competitive field that moves quickly, and he wants to play at the top level. He needs to adjust or he will miss out. He's definitely not in control. He still has ambitions to play at the top so being able to retire is irrelevant, if he retires now he'd look a mug and be disappointed with his career I bet.
De Gea also didn't get what he wanted, he had to settle because none of the clubs he wanted would pay him what he wanted or they didn't guarantee him as a long-term starter. Being a footballer is not like working a normal job, they do not have the same power as they're replaceable, they lose value the more they don't play, and their careers are short.
Robiot is good, but he's not so good that teams are desperate for him.
Totally agree. Erik is clearly unable to sort the midfield out and it will be clear when just replacing Casemiro with Ugarte won't fix it. However, saying that Casemiro has not declined and it's all due to Erik's tactics is just factually incorrect
It's not that I think he would but that he could if he really wanted.
I'd be surprised he didn't sign anywhere.
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It’s been reported by various media outlets we are not interested in him
Im surprised he hasn’t moved to Türkiye considering he’s still playing National football. Not having a club definitely hinders his plan to play for France. Surely he would’ve taken the option of a Türkiye club unless he has some negotiations planned with a club in Europe. Deschamps has already commented how it’s hampering his selection with the France team
True, however maybe he will see sense and reduce demands which could bring us to table
His mum would probably fall out with Ten Hag within the first week.
I think we should offer him a 3 year contract. Our first choice midfield 2 is Mainoo and Ugarte. Beyond that we have Eriksen and casemiro don't seem to be able to cope physically atm. We need Rabiot to provide a safe rotation option in Central midfield.
Is he the perfect solution? No. But he's better than McTominay ever was and if we wanted a perfect solution we should have spent the money in the summer.
Yeah he's an expensive option but we're not broke as a club.
Is he the perfect solution? No. But he's better than McTominay ever was and if we wanted a perfect solution we should have spent the money in the summer.
Yeah he's an expensive option but we're not broke as a club.
Save yourself the stress, it won't happen, not this year, or any year.
No he's definitely not the perfect solution but he would certainly be an upgrade on McTominay
Thats a blast from the past.
Yeah lets buy Rabiot so when Ten Hag has shown us all he can get Ugarte to play like current Casemiro, then he has a fall back option to do the same again.
I see Rabiot as someone capable of playing 6/8
We need 10/10 not 6/8
Adrien RabiNo
I dunno, two ****s. They might get on.
Yeah never thought of it like that, so maybe