Influences. Great, an agent looking for a big money move.
Adnan Januzaj
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Okay now it's time that we can all panic.
Urgh, I can't be arsed with this again. Would be a complete disaster to lose Januzaj.
Not good..
So it's just the same panic levels up here as it is down in the newbies, thanks for the confirmation guys.
Moysey sign him up.
Moysey sign him up.
It's gotten hysterical. All it needs is for someone to mention the prospect of a place in the first XI tomorrow for Ashley Y...
Better stop there.
"Influences". Fantastic.
SAF started coming out with the same kind of "hints" with Pogba.
SAF started coming out with the same kind of "hints" with Pogba.
If he starts vs west brom I bet he will say
I just caught the end of the uncut press conference on mutv about half an hour ago and I'm 99% sure that first line is not an accurate quote. Basically he didn't say "but". He said he has influences around him which I took to mean he's looking to stay and has influences around him i.e the likes of Giggs and other players.
Yeah I'm officially worried. The fact he acknowledged there's a complication isn't reassuring.
Unless Sally's right. Fingers crossed
Unless Sally's right. Fingers crossed
Just offer him whatever he asks for and play him every now and again and it'll be fine. We made two basic errors with Pogba i.e. we refused to offer him £20k he asked for (and people on here thought it was the correct decision to make) and we gave him absolutely no time in the first team. Let's not repeat any of them.
And so it begins...
Adnan Januzaj: Aiming high
At just 18, Adnan Januzaj has already made three first-team appearances for United and a bright future awaits - so does plenty of hard work to make sure he gets there. Nobody realises that more than Adnan himself...
Adnan, your career has progressed quickly in the past few months - how are you finding it all?I'm really enjoying myself. I played quite a few games in the Reserves last season and I thought I did well, and from there I had the chance to go on tour in the summer and it was a good opportunity for me to show what I could do for the team. It was a great experience for me and ever since I've been working hard. Now the manager has given me my chance in the first-team in the Community Shield and against Crystal Palace.
It started last season getting a squad number and a place on the bench at West Brom. That must have meant a lot in such a significant game...I was really happy because when a big, big manager like Sir Alex gives you a shirt number your thought is that you can really do something for this club.
Then you went on the pre-season tour around the world...It was a big experience for me. I'm young - I'm only 18 - so I learned a lot being around the players every day, people like Giggsy, Ferdinand, Evra and Rooney.
You made your competitive debut at Wembley in the Community Shield. What was that like?I felt good when I went onto the pitch. I felt confident. I had ten minutes and said to myself, 'for ten minutes, work hard and show the fans what you can do.' I try to be that way when I play; to be confident, play as well as I can and do my best for the team. At first, when you come on and see all the fans it's a very attractive occasion. You want to prove your quality and I was just happy to be on the pitch for United.
In a way, was your league debut against Crystal Palace an even bigger occasion?It was my first Premier League game for United and my first at Old Trafford, so it felt very special. I was in front of another big crowd and I was shocked to get about 25 minutes. When I got the call to say I was coming on, I was surprised. But I went on and tried to play my game.
Is there a specific detail that stands out in your memory about the match?The noise of the crowd. Playing in front of a crowd that big could be scary for a young player but you quickly realise everyone is behind you at Old Trafford. That gave me the belief to play with the qualities I have. It really helped having that support behind me because you get a feeling that everyone wants you to do well.
Were your family there and what did they make of it?My dad and my mum were there. They want the best for me and, naturally, they want to see me play every game! It's my first match so they were really happy for me. I talk to my dad a lot about football; he knows the game well. I work hard on the pitch and do what he asks me to do because whenever he has told me to do something and I have done it, it has worked out well. He's the reason that I am at United. He's had a big influence on my career, so he was proud to see my debut.
Not many players make their Manchester United debut at 18...I read that a few players have done it at a similar age - Giggs, Beckham (both 17), Scholes (19)... they're all big players. It gives me a boost and I will try to follow those players. I try to ask players like that what I can do to stay in the team or to become a better player. I'm learning all the time.
Do you have a role model at the club?Everyone gives me advice, that's the great thing here. People want you to do well and want to help you develop your game. I speak a lot with Patrice [Evra] and
What impact is it having on your game being around those players every day?Everything is quicker. The games are quicker, you have to think faster and play quicker. I'm training with great players almost every day so I do what they tell me but at the same time I want to bring my own qualities too. That's important. You have to do both.
What's it like training with the likes of van Persie, Rooney and Kagawa?Their technical qualities are brilliant, so just playing alongside them raises your standards. You learn little things like when to speed up play, when to pass, when to hold the ball, all those things... by watching experienced players it just becomes natural.
You played on the left against Palace, but we've seen you up front for the U21s or dropping deeper too. What's your ideal role?My favourite position is as no.10, but I've played on the left and the right. Wherever I play I'll do my best and give everything for United because that's my job. Playing in various positions gives you an appreciation for playing as part of a team. That's what I want to do.
What's next? You've made your debut, what are your next aims?First, I'd like to stay in the squad. I want to play as many games as I can and become the best player I can possibly be. I know that I need to keep working hard every day to achieve that.
Fans' questions: Supporters on Facebook put their questions to Adnan...
Who is your favourite
player of all time, and why?
Zidane and Riquelme were two players I always liked as a kid. They're technical players and they always looked so relaxed on the ball. They were the star players in their teams, the play always went through them and they controlled the games. Giggsy, of course, is a legend. Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney are also top players.
What is your biggest aim in your football career? - Junior Flygerian Adekunle
To win every trophy that is possible... you have to aim high!
Apart from playing football, what else do you enjoy doing? - Kim Dauda
I just like chilling out when I am away from the training ground. I'm working hard! So I like to rest or go shopping and go out for something to eat. Just normal things like this.
You're a new member of the senior side - who is your best mate in the first-team? - Stuart Clarke
I have a good relationship with everyone at United. I talk to everyone, especially Patrice and Giggsy as I said, and also Robin. They always give me advice and help me a lot because they want me to play for United. Robin is a brilliant player, so is Patrice and he is also a very funny guy.
There's a lot of talk about which national team you will play for - you're eligible to play for Belgium and Albania. What's your view about international football? - Karl Dempsey
At the moment, international football isn't something that I have thought a lot about. I know that first I have to concentrate on what I do for United because that is the most important part of my career right now. I want to play well for United and give everything for my club.
At just 18, Adnan Januzaj has already made three first-team appearances for United and a bright future awaits - so does plenty of hard work to make sure he gets there. Nobody realises that more than Adnan himself...
Adnan, your career has progressed quickly in the past few months - how are you finding it all?I'm really enjoying myself. I played quite a few games in the Reserves last season and I thought I did well, and from there I had the chance to go on tour in the summer and it was a good opportunity for me to show what I could do for the team. It was a great experience for me and ever since I've been working hard. Now the manager has given me my chance in the first-team in the Community Shield and against Crystal Palace.
It started last season getting a squad number and a place on the bench at West Brom. That must have meant a lot in such a significant game...I was really happy because when a big, big manager like Sir Alex gives you a shirt number your thought is that you can really do something for this club.
Then you went on the pre-season tour around the world...It was a big experience for me. I'm young - I'm only 18 - so I learned a lot being around the players every day, people like Giggsy, Ferdinand, Evra and Rooney.
You made your competitive debut at Wembley in the Community Shield. What was that like?I felt good when I went onto the pitch. I felt confident. I had ten minutes and said to myself, 'for ten minutes, work hard and show the fans what you can do.' I try to be that way when I play; to be confident, play as well as I can and do my best for the team. At first, when you come on and see all the fans it's a very attractive occasion. You want to prove your quality and I was just happy to be on the pitch for United.
In a way, was your league debut against Crystal Palace an even bigger occasion?It was my first Premier League game for United and my first at Old Trafford, so it felt very special. I was in front of another big crowd and I was shocked to get about 25 minutes. When I got the call to say I was coming on, I was surprised. But I went on and tried to play my game.
Is there a specific detail that stands out in your memory about the match?The noise of the crowd. Playing in front of a crowd that big could be scary for a young player but you quickly realise everyone is behind you at Old Trafford. That gave me the belief to play with the qualities I have. It really helped having that support behind me because you get a feeling that everyone wants you to do well.
Were your family there and what did they make of it?My dad and my mum were there. They want the best for me and, naturally, they want to see me play every game! It's my first match so they were really happy for me. I talk to my dad a lot about football; he knows the game well. I work hard on the pitch and do what he asks me to do because whenever he has told me to do something and I have done it, it has worked out well. He's the reason that I am at United. He's had a big influence on my career, so he was proud to see my debut.
Not many players make their Manchester United debut at 18...I read that a few players have done it at a similar age - Giggs, Beckham (both 17), Scholes (19)... they're all big players. It gives me a boost and I will try to follow those players. I try to ask players like that what I can do to stay in the team or to become a better player. I'm learning all the time.
Do you have a role model at the club?Everyone gives me advice, that's the great thing here. People want you to do well and want to help you develop your game. I speak a lot with Patrice [Evra] and
Giggsy. They have great experience, they're big players at the club and have gone through everything I'm going through. Their advice is important. If I play on the left, Patrice is just behind so he helps me, and I'm playing in a similar position to Giggsy. I ask him questions all the time as he's been a top, top player for so long. He's a good teacher.What impact is it having on your game being around those players every day?Everything is quicker. The games are quicker, you have to think faster and play quicker. I'm training with great players almost every day so I do what they tell me but at the same time I want to bring my own qualities too. That's important. You have to do both.
What's it like training with the likes of van Persie, Rooney and Kagawa?Their technical qualities are brilliant, so just playing alongside them raises your standards. You learn little things like when to speed up play, when to pass, when to hold the ball, all those things... by watching experienced players it just becomes natural.
You played on the left against Palace, but we've seen you up front for the U21s or dropping deeper too. What's your ideal role?My favourite position is as no.10, but I've played on the left and the right. Wherever I play I'll do my best and give everything for United because that's my job. Playing in various positions gives you an appreciation for playing as part of a team. That's what I want to do.
What's next? You've made your debut, what are your next aims?First, I'd like to stay in the squad. I want to play as many games as I can and become the best player I can possibly be. I know that I need to keep working hard every day to achieve that.
Fans' questions: Supporters on Facebook put their questions to Adnan...
Who is your favourite
player of all time, and why?
Zidane and Riquelme were two players I always liked as a kid. They're technical players and they always looked so relaxed on the ball. They were the star players in their teams, the play always went through them and they controlled the games. Giggsy, of course, is a legend. Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney are also top players.
What is your biggest aim in your football career? - Junior Flygerian Adekunle
To win every trophy that is possible... you have to aim high!
Apart from playing football, what else do you enjoy doing? - Kim Dauda
I just like chilling out when I am away from the training ground. I'm working hard! So I like to rest or go shopping and go out for something to eat. Just normal things like this.
You're a new member of the senior side - who is your best mate in the first-team? - Stuart Clarke
I have a good relationship with everyone at United. I talk to everyone, especially Patrice and Giggsy as I said, and also Robin. They always give me advice and help me a lot because they want me to play for United. Robin is a brilliant player, so is Patrice and he is also a very funny guy.
There's a lot of talk about which national team you will play for - you're eligible to play for Belgium and Albania. What's your view about international football? - Karl Dempsey
At the moment, international football isn't something that I have thought a lot about. I know that first I have to concentrate on what I do for United because that is the most important part of my career right now. I want to play well for United and give everything for my club.
Juventus will have arguments unfortunately. Pogba wanted £30K per week at most, now he is probably worth double that.
we wont lose him. We will pay whatever is needed to keep him.
I hope it gets sorted quickly, one way or another. If this rumbles on for another month or two then I think it's likely he'll be leaving.
The sole fact that we let our most talented youngsters enter the final year of their contracts without negotiating new deals with them sooner is worrying enough, they cost peanuts to maintain and we've hardly ever saved any money by not offering them longer deals (we often keep players who clearly won't make it way beyond what we ought to for some reason, see Macheda, it's players like Morrison and Pogba we have problem with).
You have to think that Adnan would have signed by now if he was really committed to sticking around
He will stay. No fear, he will get gametime this season.
Morrison was a headcase. Pogba wanted regular first team football. It was not just money.
If we lose Adnan despite offering decent money and game time we might as well abandon signing promising non-British youngsters. Their heads are so easily turned.
Under the age of 18 they can only sign for 3 years maximum. If we want to tie Januzaj, for example, up on a longer term deal we have to wait until they're over 18.
You can, but you don't have to.
Yeah, Moyes actually says:
"I think he's keen to stay, yeah. He's got some influences around him..."
then the press woman cuts him off.
It was always obvious there were problems.A worry for me is that DM will be afraid to do something revolutionary or 'contrary to the club's traditions' by offering Adnan a release clause based on playing time, and we'll lose him as a result.
At the moment Moyes is doing what Fergie did with Pogba - trying to sweet talk him into signing without providing what the player really wants - an opportunity to show he can do the job. If he gets that, I believe Januzaj will sign. If he doesn't, all the guff about the club's tradition of giving young players a chance is just hot air.
Is he doing that? Because I'm pretty fecking sure I saw him playing in the premier league a couple of matches back and in the league cup midweek.
He's just made his premier league debut, a debut he didn't expect, a few matches into David Moyes tenure at the club. He also took him on his first tour. If he's denying him chances he's making a poor job of it.
I submitted my last post before completing it.
The last two paragraphs:
The next few weeks should tell the tale. There won't be many better opportunities to play a young talent than against weak opposition early in the season. Hopefully he'll get his chance, do well, establish himself firmly in the rotation, and everyone will be happy.
Edit: If by influences, DM means Januzaj's father and agent, he'd have done better to keep his mouth shut. I'm sure Adnan has greater confidence in those close to him than he does in David Moyes. That's not going to change. So why risk pissing them off?
The last two paragraphs:
The next few weeks should tell the tale. There won't be many better opportunities to play a young talent than against weak opposition early in the season. Hopefully he'll get his chance, do well, establish himself firmly in the rotation, and everyone will be happy.
Edit: If by influences, DM means Januzaj's father and agent, he'd have done better to keep his mouth shut. I'm sure Adnan has greater confidence in those close to him than he does in David Moyes. That's not going to change. So why risk pissing them off?
Well, without the "but" in the sentance it means that influences might even be construed as a positive thing.
Okay I've just watched the press conference, no longer feeling worried over that earlier little panic. The reporter actually mentioned influence first with regards to his dad and then Moyes mentioned it later on. Seemed very positive about it.
With regards to your last paragraph, with the greatest of respect, what in the feck are you on about?
We need to sort this out sharpish before it takes on a life of its own. Give him a generous contract and get him some significant time on the pitch.
That januzaj is more likely to trust his dad and agent compared to moyes, not an outlandish claim and not much wrong with it.
So it's basically Telegraph taking the quotes out of context.
The Guardian doesn't even mention the influences part.
The Guardian doesn't even mention the influences part.
It does sound like Pogba all over again
Slightly nervous now, wasn't at all before.
How have you come to that conclusion? Moyes has handed the lad his debut and played him against Liverpool. Given our opening fixtures it's good that he's featured three times already, more than Zaha and you must see that he is in Moyes plans. In the interview above Januzaj spoke about the importance of the crowd at OT, he will need to get used to hostile away grounds and not be thrown in at the deep end. Moyes can't be criticised for his approach so far. He's spoken about Adnan in glowing terms and is easing him in correctly, he even said he considered starting him against Palace so his first start can't be too far away.
Adnan at the age of 18 has had 3 appearances in our 7 first matches so far and yet the morons here are comparing this with Pogba and blaming Moyes if he doesn't sign the contract. Doesn't make sense.
For what it's worth, I think he'll sign a new contract. People who've watched the interview(in this very thread) are telling that Telegraph got it wrong and the Guardian didn't obviously saw it important enough to mention it.
For what it's worth, I think he'll sign a new contract. People who've watched the interview(in this very thread) are telling that Telegraph got it wrong and the Guardian didn't obviously saw it important enough to mention it.
i missed those days when we have scholes who doesn't need an agent, gary neville and giggs who are both more concern about the length of the contract rather than the amount of money received.
nothing against adnan as he has the rights to ask and think deeply about his career, but my god what a great thing if we happen to have another scholes or gaz and giggs of course (in terms of commitment, loyalty, respect and love to Manchester United) in our team again.
nothing against adnan as he has the rights to ask and think deeply about his career, but my god what a great thing if we happen to have another scholes or gaz and giggs of course (in terms of commitment, loyalty, respect and love to Manchester United) in our team again.
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