Adnan Januzaj

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If we lose this kid, it would be two of our best talents in succession. That represents a worrying habit. It might be just 2 players but it's a lot for a club of united's size.

And if we lose the next one, the one after that and the one coming up behind him, we will have lost 5 in a row. However, as it stands we've lost one and everything else is hypothetical bullshit based on unfounded press speculation. It's not uncommon for players Januzaj's age to enter the final year of their contracts before beginning renegotiations. Things change quickly at that age so it makes sense from both the club's and the player's perspective. There's absolutely nothing unusual about this situation other than the papers eying an opportunity to exploit the frail nerves of drama queens given that the last one - extremely uncharacteristically - got away.
 
And if we lose the next one, the one after that and the one coming up behind him, we will have lost 5 in a row. However, as it stands we've lost one and everything else is hypothetical bullshit based on unfounded press speculation. It's not uncommon for players Januzaj's age to enter the final year of their contracts before beginning renegotiations. Things change quickly at that age so it makes sense from both the club's and the player's perspective. There's absolutely nothing unusual about this situation other than the papers eying an opportunity to exploit the frail nerves of drama queens given that the last one - extremely uncharacteristically - got away.
What's wrong with hypothetical bullshit? Are you telling me in your 9 years here you haven't speculated at all and good old Elliot only posts about fachts? Come on mate, half of everything we post is hypothetical bullshit and the other half is our personal opinion on stuff.

As for "frail nerves of drama" queens, feck knows who you're talking about. Nothing's happened on the januzaj front so I doubt anyone is shitting themselves already.
 
My point is, our logic is not always valid. You say they are established players who could have been starters anywhere, but I do not recall us saying that at the time.

With Hazard, it was 'he say's he want's to play behind the striker. We have Rooney/Hernandez - Hazard would start ahead of Hernandez while Chelsea have Mata, which = he will choose us'.

With Thiago, it was basically 'Bayern have good midfielders, we have rubbish midfielders = he will of course choose us'.

In reality, I don't think it can be ruled out that Adnan feels his career (or his bank balance) would be better served away from Old Trafford. At present, in my view - the overwhelming evidence is that he has not signed a new deal and his current one allows him to go free in a matter of months. Until this fact changes, the likelihood is that he will leave in my view. Again, we can say 'he only has Young and Valencia who haven't been playing well, wheras City have x,y,z, so of course he will stay' - but the mind of a footballer is wierd and usually full of pound signs to be fair. The mind of their agents even more so.

Of course it cant be ruled out - like I said, people make strange decisions sometimes. I think you're being far too analytical about it. Young players regularly are not "tied down" early to contracts. He hasn't publically indicated he wants to go, the club are probably speaking to his agent - indeed the only things suggesting there is any issue is pointless speculation in tabloid papers or half baked websites who before the Palace game probably wouldnt have run a story anyway.

Bottom line is he's around the first team, the club clearly want to keep him, he's talented and should have a bright future - but I can't see City or any other team offering him mega-bucks because he isnt the finished article. He isnt Pogba - who clearly wasn't happy about his standing at the club, which to me is likely the major reason why he left.
 
Learn to read posts.

If we lose this kid, it would be two of our best talents in succession. That represents a worrying habit. It might be just 2 players but it's a lot for a club of united's size.


Thanks for the advice.

You should also stop being a drama queen and stop moaning about each and everything in your life. Take this advice and apply it to your life aswell, might help you.
 
What's wrong with hypothetical bullshit? Are you telling me in your 9 years here you haven't speculated at all and good old Elliot only posts about fachts? Come on mate, half of everything we post is hypothetical bullshit and the other half is our personal opinion on stuff.

As for "frail nerves of drama" queens, feck knows who you're talking about. Nothing's happened on the januzaj front so I doubt anyone is shitting themselves already.

What's wrong with hypothetical bullshit would be the bullshit part, mate. As you so cleverly pointed out, as outsiders we all speculate to some degree regarding what goes on at the club. But that doesn't exempt us from thinking, trying to see the forest for the trees, considering sources, etc. If anything, it makes it all the more important. Otherwise, we get people talking about how we can't keep losing our best talents (plural, ya dig..?) when it's happened once in....friggin' decades, probably.

As for your last sentence, I think certain people are shitting themselves because nothing's happened on the Januzaj front, failing to see that there's nothing unusual about that.
 
Thanks for the advice.

You should also stop being a drama queen and stop moaning about each and everything in your life. Take this advice and apply it to your life aswell, might help you.
I don't need your nonsensical advice. Also, you know feck all about my life let alone good posting.
 
What's wrong with hypothetical bullshit would be the bullshit part, mate. As you so cleverly pointed out, as outsiders we all speculate to some degree regarding what goes on at the club. But that doesn't exempt us from thinking, trying to see the forest for the trees, considering sources, etc. If anything, it makes it all the more important. Otherwise, we get people talking about how we can't keep losing our best talents (plural, ya dig..?) when it's happened once in....friggin' decades, probably.

As for your last sentence, I think certain people are shitting themselves because nothing's happened on the Januzaj front, failing to see that there's nothing unusual about that.
Erm you missed the point completely. My post clearly inferred that it would be a case of "keep losing" IF we lost this chap. Ya dig? Like, plural?

As for my post, it's something we all do here and you know it. I really don't feel the need to explain making a post based on something hypothetical, to you. That's silly.
 
What is an interesting issue is why we always end up in a situation where this happens. If we are so convinced we have signed a brilliant player like Januzaj and Pogba to name 2 - why do we keep giving them 3 year deals ? It's hardly ideal to have an 18 year old with one year left of his contract is it ?
 
What is an interesting issue is why we always end up in a situation where this happens. If we are so convinced we have signed a brilliant player like Januzaj and Pogba to name 2 - why do we keep giving them 3 year deals ? It's hardly ideal to have an 18 year old with one year left of his contract is it ?


I think there's a time limit to the pro-deals. It's either two or three years. That's why this situation keeps on arising.
 
What's wrong with hypothetical bullshit would be the bullshit part, mate. As you so cleverly pointed out, as outsiders we all speculate to some degree regarding what goes on at the club. But that doesn't exempt us from thinking, trying to see the forest for the trees, considering sources, etc. If anything, it makes it all the more important. Otherwise, we get people talking about how we can't keep losing our best talents (plural, ya dig..?) when it's happened once in....friggin' decades, probably.

As for your last sentence, I think certain people are shitting themselves because nothing's happened on the Januzaj front, failing to see that there's nothing unusual about that.

We wanted to keep both Pique and Rossi, but couldn't 'satisfy their ambitions'. By all accounts, Fergie was pissed off when Pique wanted out, and wouldn't even talk to him for a while. He also spoke of Rossi being the future, but then bought Tevez, and that was that.

I think you underestimate the difficulty of retaining top young foreign talent, not tied to the club by sentiment, if we can't offer them a first team place. As I say, I think we're very likely to keep Januzaj - all the signs are promising - but nothing is cast in stone until he signs.
 
I hope money and playing time is not an issue for contract renewal. When we loss Pogba our midfield is a joke, I hope we won't loss Januzaj too when we have Young playing in first team.
 
We wanted to keep both Pique and Rossi, but couldn't 'satisfy their ambitions'. By all accounts, Fergie was pissed off when Pique wanted out, and wouldn't even talk to him for a while. He also spoke of Rossi being the future, but then bought Tevez, and that was that.

I think you underestimate the difficulty of retaining top young foreign talent, not tied to the club by sentiment, if we can't offer them a first team place. As I say, I think we're very likely to keep Januzaj - all the signs are promising - but nothing is cast in stone until he signs.

Pique and Rossi were 21 and some ways away from being first choice in their positions when they left, even though they both would have been solid back-up. Basically, United was no longer the best place for them to further their careers, for the moment I can't see Januzaj having any such concerns.
 
Erm you missed the point completely. My post clearly inferred that it would be a case of "keep losing" IF we lost this chap. Ya dig? Like, plural?

As for my post, it's something we all do here and you know it. I really don't feel the need to explain making a post based on something hypothetical, to you. That's silly.

We can't keep losing talents indicates that it's happened more than once already. Basic grammar, mate. Seems you meant to say we can't keep losing our best talent. If you don't say what you mean you don't mean what you say and that jazz.
 
We didn't wanted to keep Rossi anyway. He got sold because he had no opportunities here as we signed Tevez the same summer. Pique had a year left on his contract and wanted to go to Barcelona. Even if he was a first team player here, I doubt that would've turned differently.
 
Morrison was also a big talent along with the likes of Pogba and Keane. So we have lost more than one promising youngsters in recent years, whatever be the reason for their departure.
 
Morrison was also a big talent along with the likes of Pogba and Keane. So we have lost more than one promising youngsters in recent years, whatever be the reason for their departure.

We didn't lose Ravel, Sir got rid of him.
 
"The case with Ravel is well documented,” Ferguson said on Tuesday night. “I think he’s better out of Manchester to be honest with you. He’s got a great talent, but having to deal with that is very important."
 
We can't keep losing talents indicates that it's happened more than once already. Basic grammar, mate. Seems you meant to say we can't keep losing our best talent. If you don't say what you mean you don't mean what you say and that jazz.
You're being extremely pedantic mate. Not sure what the purpose of that was apart from wasting both your and my time. My point is that we lost pogba who was supposedly one of our brightest young talents at the time. And if we lose januzaj, making it two in a row, it would be abysmal.

Having said that, I don't think it will happen. How often does that happen at a big club like united anyway.
 
You're being extremely pedantic mate. Not sure what the purpose of that was apart from wasting both your and my time. My point is that we lost pogba who was supposedly one of our brightest young talents at the time. And if we lose januzaj, making it two in a row, it would be abysmal.

Having said that, I don't think it will happen. How often does that happen at a big club like united anyway.

Oh. My. Days. You make it sound as though we're in some sort of crisis.
 
I can't believe Januzaj is leaving us, I'm so upset to have another Pogba on our hands. I blame Ed, I blame him for everything.
 
You're being extremely pedantic mate. Not sure what the purpose of that was apart from wasting both your and my time. My point is that we lost pogba who was supposedly one of our brightest young talents at the time. And if we lose januzaj, making it two in a row, it would be abysmal.

Having said that, I don't think it will happen. How often does that happen at a big club like united anyway.

My point is that there's nothing to indicate Januzaj's leaving other than speculative newspaper snippets that wouldn't even exist if Pogba hadn't left. I thought that was clear. You kinda forced my hand with the pedantry by picking out a small part of my post and saying I've missed the point when even with regards to that small part I had done no such thing.
 
"The case with Ravel is well documented,” Ferguson said on Tuesday night. “I think he’s better out of Manchester to be honest with you. He’s got a great talent, but having to deal with that is very important."

It was a very strange situation. Something changed drastically within a short period of time because he was on the cusp of the first team and was offered a new deal according to Fergie. Then suddenly he was being offered around other clubs and left.
 
Ravel asked for over £30k a week, didn't he? I guess that demand from an 18 year old who missed so much game time through his misbehaviour was kinda the last straw for Sir Alex
 
Does anyone really believe he's off? The official words from the boy himself seems that he's really keen to stay. Now some shite tabloid gossip websites are making a meal of his contract expiring at the end of this season, and it's panic button. Adnan seems keen to play football from the way he's spoken.

City have got some pretty talented boys on the fringes of their squad who can't get a game. I think even a kid as naive as Adnan will know that would be a ridiculous move.
 
Is there actually anything beyond the word of a couple of random journalists supporting this? Doesn't seem to be anything to worry about at this point.
 
My point is that there's nothing to indicate Januzaj's leaving other than speculative newspaper snippets that wouldn't even exist if Pogba hadn't left. I thought that was clear. You kinda forced my hand with the pedantry by picking out a small part of my post and saying I've missed the point when even with regards to that small part I had done no such thing.
And I agree with you. There is nothing to suggest he'd leave yet. But the pogba thing happened so its natural for people to look at this and say "that can't happen again". Also it's not just because of pogba it's also because he's got not long left on his contract. I wouldn't say it's completely make believe. With such little time left in his contract anything can happen
 
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