Sterling looked brilliant at first last year, like pretty much every English winger seems to before turning mediocre. He's only 18 himself though but Januzaj is certainly a bigger talent.
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And the Nobel Price (in all categories) the year after that?
Calm down mate, we all like him and he is very promising but still too early.
Those opposition supporters would be clueless idiots then.
That's actually a very good point. An 18 year old is not close to his physical peak. Thus, if he stays relatively injury free, he can only improve on his physical attributes.
Possibly. He seems to have reached his full height already, so I'm sure the physio team can manage his filling-out to keep him in whatever shape they fancy. He doesn't strike me as the sort who is naturally going to end up very broad, and I think that suits his style, so we shouldn't look to bulk him up on purpose.
He's the first player I've ever seen come from our youth team that save something disastrous is destined to be a permanent fixture in our first XI for years to come.
He's 3.5 years younger than Oscar who is one of the best young players in that position, but in terms of development he could easily be where Oscar is now in 12 months.
I personally can see Rooney leaving in the Summer and Januzaj becoming a permanent fixture behind RVP, almost like Jose has done with Oscar/Mata (a little short term pain for a big long term gain).
He's 3.5 years younger than Oscar who is one of the best young players in that position, but in terms of development he could easily be where Oscar is now in 12 months.
I personally can see Rooney leaving in the Summer and Januzaj becoming a permanent fixture behind RVP, almost like Jose has done with Oscar/Mata (a little short term pain for a big long term gain).
Sure, but if Sterling had played for United and done as well as he did last season, you might think otherwise. He's better on FIFA after all
Pacy players like Sterling who have pace and trickery often have a wow factor that the objective fan appreciate. Januzaj is a more laid-back player who is a lot more elegant in his playing style, like a Berbatov with more pace and agility. It takes a while before he will gain that same recognition, I think. Again, I agree with you - just adding to the discussion here.
Agreed
And I think if he carries on this way for the rest of the season he'll have the 7 or 11...whichever he fancies more.
Sure, but if Sterling had played for United and done as well as he did last season, you might think otherwise. He's better on FIFA after all
Pacy players like Sterling who have pace and trickery often have a wow factor that the objective fan appreciate. Januzaj is a more laid-back player who is a lot more elegant in his playing style, like a Berbatov with more pace and agility. It takes a while before he will gain that same recognition, I think. Again, I agree with you - just adding to the discussion here.
Januzaj has a level of calmness and maturity well beyond Sterling and pretty much every young player in world football.
Januzaj can do the elegant playmaking thing and dribble through a defence, though. He's got the wow factor and the quality. He's been beating a man or two for fun ever since the start of the pre-season tour.
Nani hasn't shown that ability for such a long period of time so it's not what I want to see, it's what I'm seeing.
Intermittent flashes of promise isn't enough to stop people from saying 'what is he doing?' whilst naturally getting behind the up and coming kid because he has more chance of developing into the top player we all want to see.
Given the inconsistent form of all our senior attacking midfielders and wingers Januzaj will get more than a bench role and deservedly so.
I agree, but the way he goes about beating a man isn't as flashy as say Sterling's method, and thus the average Joe of football fans will sometimes look at the flashy player with a big WOW tattooed to his eyelids.
I haven't seen many young players outside England, so I can't argue either way, but your description of him seems legit enough.
People told me to calm down when I said he'll get 10-15+ appearances this year, people told me to calm down when I called him a special talent, I'm not going to have you tell me to calm down now either.
You may not agree, and that's your prerogative, but for me he's nailed on to win the young player of the year if he carries on like this all season. And barring injury, I see no reason why he won't carry on like this. He's an intelligent player, the most intelligent 18 year old I've ever had the fortune of seeing at this club, even more so than Ronaldo because he was about skill and pace.
Adnan has come into our team and seemingly given everyone a lift, he's arguably become one of our most influential players and one of our most important assets now. Of course he will have to be managed properly, and we wouldn't want to run the risk of burn out, but IMO you don't make this kind of impression and impact at this age at a club like United and not go on to win the young player of the year.
You may not agree with me, or want to wrap him up in more cotton wool than I do and that's fine, but don't tell me to calm down with my opinions on him.
I'm sure Moyes won't take such a myopic view. Nani was great heading into the Stoke game, and even though he was poor he managed an assist. Players have had, and will have shit performances from time to time. Like someone above said, if Adnan keeps on making an impact, then and only then will he earn a first team spot.
The problem with my comment is that you'll have the likes of Oscar in the short list I'd imagine and it would be hard to say he's not a strong contender to win it this year.
But I don't personally think that he should even be allowed to be in the category, I think the category should have an upper limit of 21.
But I don't personally think that he should even be allowed to be in the category, I think the category should have an upper limit of 21.
It's utterly ridiculous that an eighteen yr old who has just made the transition into our first team has been our second best attacker after Rooney. I know Adnan's super talented but some of the senior players also needs to get off their arse and start working hard.
He didn't get an assist, he helped create the goal. Oh yes, I'm being that guy.
More seriously though, if we're picking a team for Saturday based on form, then our wingers should be Kagawa and Adnan... (though actually, he should work out some way to have Hernandez, RVP and Rooney all start, but I don't think thats feasible).
Simmer down. RVP is scoring as fast as last year, and Hernandez still can't not score when given the chance. Kagawa simply hasn't been played much, but he was good in both his recent appearances. What you're really saying is that Nani and Valencia need to be playing better, which is true. I don't include Young because I don't think he's ever been good enough to be honest, and I'd probably give a couple more of our youngsters chances over him.
Besides, Januzaj is genuinely a brilliant player. Was Lee Sharpe shit because Giggs forced him out of the team?
People need not allow themselves to get carried away with the lad. Yes he is amazing but the true test of his mettle will come with time: how he handles fatigue; injuries; teams marking him out; rough-house tactics; and dips in form.
Having said that his potential at 18 is probably on a par with what I saw with Ronaldo's and might I add, better than Rooney's at the same age.
He is excellent, hope he keeps it up but we need to a slight reality check. Moyes isn't going to play him every game and the lad will have a dip in form at some point.
Let's not compare him with established regulars for Adnan isn't one at the moment and needs to do more over time to earn that right of comparison. Just enjoy him for what he is, an immensely exciting prospect!
Having said that his potential at 18 is probably on a par with what I saw with Ronaldo's and might I add, better than Rooney's at the same age.
He is excellent, hope he keeps it up but we need to a slight reality check. Moyes isn't going to play him every game and the lad will have a dip in form at some point.
Let's not compare him with established regulars for Adnan isn't one at the moment and needs to do more over time to earn that right of comparison. Just enjoy him for what he is, an immensely exciting prospect!
Um why are people saying Adnan has to consistently impress to merit a place? Isn't that a given.
As KM said he's been a shining light along with Rooney whereas the likes of Nani and Kagawa have occasionally been good without actually particularly being productive.
Nani would be my first choice right winger and naturally I think Januzaj will make more impact from the left than Kagawa and based on the performances of all the wingers this season I don't quite understand what more Januzaj has to do to start games myself. Sure he's young and needs to be managed well, but when he lad is 100% fit and mentally in the right place he should definitely play.
As KM said he's been a shining light along with Rooney whereas the likes of Nani and Kagawa have occasionally been good without actually particularly being productive.
Nani would be my first choice right winger and naturally I think Januzaj will make more impact from the left than Kagawa and based on the performances of all the wingers this season I don't quite understand what more Januzaj has to do to start games myself. Sure he's young and needs to be managed well, but when he lad is 100% fit and mentally in the right place he should definitely play.
Assistant Steve Round on Januzaj's best position: "If you ask Warren Joyce, he'd say he felt his best position was no.9."
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Wait what standard do the established regulars set? Who are the established regulars? Valencia played in the opening few. Nani's started the last few. Young has been in and out. Kagawa has been in and around?
Seems as though Zaha aside, it's a fairly level playing field at the moment.
Sure, but if Sterling had played for United and done as well as he did last season, you might think otherwise. He's better on FIFA after all
Pacy players like Sterling who have pace and trickery often have a wow factor that the objective fan appreciate. Januzaj is a more laid-back player who is a lot more elegant in his playing style, like a Berbatov with more pace and agility. It takes a while before he will gain that same recognition, I think. Again, I agree with you - just adding to the discussion here.
The Dortmund fan on here called him a special talent a couple of weeks ago and every commentator has been seriously impressed with him every time he's played so I'm not sure that's the case. I was watching the game on a French stream last night and even when he lost the ball out by the right touchline towards the end with a little shimmy and jink back on the outside, the commentator's only reaction was to say "Adnan Januzaj, un incroyable talent". He's getting plenty of media coverage so I don't think it'll take long at all.
Maybe Ramsey would win it? If not Player of the year award? I am not sure whether he will be qualify for the award, he will be 23 next year though.
I would have Nani and Januzaj as first choice wingers based on form. I think you could maybe make a case that they have both been equally as impressive, but Januzaj edges it for me. The diversity in skill-set puts them ahead of their competition. With Kagawa, I just don't think he has the explosive nature to take men on and it's why he's not suited to play on the left in our current system. He's more suited to a methodical approach, it has to be systematic, whereas Januzaj is more direct and has no problems with take ons.
Interesting. Though I think is vision would be partly wasted up front, he really has the eye for a good pass so I'd rather have him pulling strings further from the goal. Plus even playing behind the 9, he manages to get into really interesting spots time and time again (his movement is excellent).
Jamie Redknapp is one of his biggest fans. Absolutely loves the boy.
Januzaj is a special talent but I feel some get slightly carried away. Last night someone called him world class, not sure whether they were joking or not. But he should be starting vs Fulham. I don't know why but I always fear for burnout with young players. Like Sterling was really good when he broke onto the scene then I remember Rodgers saying in the 2nd half of the season he had to take him out of first team action for a bit because of fatigue and it led to a few injuries.
As a young lad I don't think Januzaj should start every game at this level. Very physically demanding but at the moment with his current form he should be starting most of our matches. But obviously we should be wary of overusing him.
Januzaj is a special talent but I feel some get slightly carried away. Last night someone called him world class, not sure whether they were joking or not. But he should be starting vs Fulham. I don't know why but I always fear for burnout with young players. Like Sterling was really good when he broke onto the scene then I remember Rodgers saying in the 2nd half of the season he had to take him out of first team action for a bit because of fatigue and it led to a few injuries.
As a young lad I don't think Januzaj should start every game at this level. Very physically demanding but at the moment with his current form he should be starting most of our matches. But obviously we should be wary of overusing him.
Maybe I went a bit far to say he's nailed on to win it. But he'll definitely be up there.
Very interesting, I didn't think he looked that good the times we stuck him up front last season for the reserves.
He's the new Messi.
I think what we need to remember in the differences between the likes of Januzaj and Sterling is that Januzaj doesn't spend much time running at full speed. He's really elegant on the ball and glides past his players, I don't think he would suffer from burn out in the same way.
I agree with adexkola, it's perception. If the name on his shirt was Nani the knives would be out for wasting good opportunities. It's too early to say whether he's erratic or not, or if he has a solid head on him to make the right choice with ball at feet in space. I absolutely love the lad and believe he will become a great player but I'm not going to paper over the cracks. And I'm pretty sure the coaching staff would have had a word with him to assess his options a bit before just letting rip. Not all of his shots were 'wrong' decisions, just a few and I love the fact that he's confident enough to take the chance. It's just something I noted as a consideration and a potential 'weak' point because from the talk in this thread you'd swear he's already better than Zidane, Mata and Silva all in one go
And Nani's form this season has been what???
Nah I'm pretty sure Warren Joyce wouldn't say Januzaj is best as a number 9. I listening to that interview last night and I think Round was just trying to highlight his versatility. He mentioned that Januzaj can play as a number 10, 7 or 11, then said if you asked Joyce he'd probably say number 9 is his best position.
Plus Januzaj definietly isn't best as a number 9.
Plus Januzaj definietly isn't best as a number 9.
What's the big deal being a bit over excited about one of our young players?
Can't say I agree, his decision making for an 18 year old is out of this world. I just watched the game this morning, and there was one moment when he was waiting for Hernandez to make a decent run, the run that Hernandez made ended up dragging a couple of the defenders away with him which opened up the space for Adnan to take on the shot and I applaud him for doing so. I'm glad he's got the confidence to take on shots, and this will only improve that part of his game.
Well yes he's less direct but it doesn't mean he won't be fatigued. He still works very hard and I'm sure he covers a lot of ground. I just think we should err a bit of caution.
As I said I think he'll play a lot of games this season but I think there will be times when we take him out like we did last week rested him vs Socidedad and Stoke.
I think Rodgers small squad meant he had to play Sterling but when they made a couple of signing in the January window they were able to take him out of action for a bit. We've got many options in Januzaj's position so that shouldn't be a problem.
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