His dad needs to chill out?
Adnan Januzaj
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Is that just a poor translation? Seems a bit out of context in that sentence and I can't see him saying this whilst he's still in negotiations, considering how diplomatic he has been about it so far.
Jesus, he could have cut that interview down by 80% by just saying: 'I haven't talked to representatives from any national teams, because Adnan wants to focus on Manchester United first and foremost.'
In fact, add 'we haven't finished the contract yet, but he will stay at United', and I've just summed up everything of value in that entire interview.
In fact, add 'we haven't finished the contract yet, but he will stay at United', and I've just summed up everything of value in that entire interview.
Agree, but interesting nevertheless, thanks for the translation, Revan.
Oh yeah, definitely worth reading. Cheers Revan! Having a jab at the dad not you.
Well the press came from Kosovo to England to make a program about him so why would he cut it down its not as if he was just coming out and making a statement in the media
His dad sounds like a dick. Trying to protect his son from the circus by creating an even bigger circus.
Thanks for translating all that Revan.
Adnan's Dad seems a but controlling but there is no doubt he has his best interests at heart and wants to see his son be the best he can possibly be.
I find the whole 'negotiating' with National Teams thing weird, but I suppose it's not common for someone to have so many options. I understand a bit why the Belgium manager had that little rant. Also surprised that England seems a real possibility (though an unlikely one) and wasn't just dismissed out of hand like Serbia/Croatia/Turkey. Kosovo is clearly in his heart though.
All the signs regarding signing for us seem positive.
Adnan's Dad seems a but controlling but there is no doubt he has his best interests at heart and wants to see his son be the best he can possibly be.
I find the whole 'negotiating' with National Teams thing weird, but I suppose it's not common for someone to have so many options. I understand a bit why the Belgium manager had that little rant. Also surprised that England seems a real possibility (though an unlikely one) and wasn't just dismissed out of hand like Serbia/Croatia/Turkey. Kosovo is clearly in his heart though.
All the signs regarding signing for us seem positive.
Nice work, Revan.
Excellent work. Thanks a lot Revan.
I think it's because he sees his home country as Kosovo, but since he can't play for them because they have no team, he doesn't really care too much for who he plays for. The difference between the countries he specified that have no chance is that in general, people from Kosovo or Albania hate Serbs and it's a little insulting to them to even suggest they are part Serbian.
Great work, Revan, thanks!
Promising quotes from his father regarding us. Have heard nothing but positive comments from all parties regarding his future here. Just waiting for the official announcement of the renewal.
One question though. What if he choses to play for let's say Albania. He gets a few caps and in the meanwhile Kosovo is allowed to field a national team. Will he be able to switch to Kosovo in such a case if he wanted to?
Promising quotes from his father regarding us. Have heard nothing but positive comments from all parties regarding his future here. Just waiting for the official announcement of the renewal.
One question though. What if he choses to play for let's say Albania. He gets a few caps and in the meanwhile Kosovo is allowed to field a national team. Will he be able to switch to Kosovo in such a case if he wanted to?
I assume that would only be possible if he played for the Albanian youth teams and not the full team. I think once his Dad makes a decision they'll stick to it. I just don't get the whole talk of 'negotiatons' with these national teams. As special as he is, at 18 they can't be expecting promises or guarantees from international managers, and surely that shouldn't influence what nationality he 'feels' or chooses.
Just a guess, but his dad may feel that if he plays for Albania (or indeed Kosovo) it's like Giggs for Wales. He might want them to agree to let him dodge friendlies, summer camps etc. If Januzaj does become a big name - Albania may suddenly find themselves being offered money, or favours, for friendlies. Potentially friendlies on the other side of the world. The kind of thing that could affect his club form without doing much for him as a player or even as a proud citizen.
It's not that unlikely. Portugal's friendly fee went up with Ronaldo, until Ronaldo started getting injured before the games - leaving them with a two tier pricing system, with/without Ronaldo. Clubs like Madrid and Barca get different friendly fees depending on which players appear. National teams (particularly ones with less money) are doing the same calculations.
Did I misread that or was Januzaj at Trafford FC?
Anyway, sounds like he's a decent lad. I'm convinced!
It was just the press whipping up links to Serbia and Turkey. Yet he takes it all seriously. Probably he is so sure that his son is going to be the best player in the world he just assumes every country is trying to get him.
I guess that can go two ways: puts unbearable pressure on the player that will crack them, or builds Incredible self confidence.
Certainly CR7 didn't need such a pushy father to make himself what he is.
I understand some of your points.
Surely he'd want to play friendlies though given that he's never likely to make a tournament with either of those teams. We have several players who travel all around the world.
It was the Belgian coach Wilmotts who said he wasn't willing to negotiate and from his comments it seemed like the negotiation was based around appearances and selection etc but the outrage Adnan's Dad expressed "this is shameless!" etc suggests maybe not?!
In terms of nationality, shouldn't he play for the country he feels he represents then negotiate from there, it's not like club football where you choose the best deal/offer. You don't tend to pick your country (though I understand he's in a situation where there is a choice to be made) but should the decision be about finance/deals or should it be about representing the nation you feel you belong to? Maybe my view on this is too idealistic?
Well his dad does. "I want Adnan to play for Kosovo" doesn't really give us much of an indication of what Adnan wants. Apart from to please his dad.
I don't quite get what Belgium and Albania have done to piss him off so much either. Enquire about him? Talk about him when asked by the press? The horror. THE HORROR!!
If this was really about doing what's best for Adnan from a cold hard career benefit standpoint, then obviously he'd play for Belgium. That would quite clearly be the best for his development and career if he wants to be the best in the world. And since he doesn't really seem to care enough to make the decision himself, it seems like his dad has created this whole kerfuffle out of his own identity crisis.
If he wants to be the world's best player.. not sure playing for Albania is going to help things. Unlike some greats of the past this lad is fortunate to be able to play for a talented nation and they're acting like arses about it. Oh well if he goes on to play for England by Euro 2016, I won't be complaining.
It is interesting that his father is open to the idea of him representing England. It could be that they are prepared to wait for Kosovo to be recognised as an international footballing nation so they are prepared to keep that avenue open. In purely cynical terms him: playing for England is going to be the most financially lucrative route for him.
I'm sure there's a precedent somewhere for this - but I can't be arsed to dig it up. Montenegro springs to mind. Anyway, one way to make such a switch would - of course - involve Kosovo gaining full independence, becoming a national state. Then he could, if he should want to, apply for citizenship (which he would undoubtedly get) and the problem would be solved. In the case of Kosovo being allowed to play officially as a national team (without gaining independence as a country) it would obviously be trickier. My guess is that he would be allowed to switch, given the special circumstances, but I don't know the formalities here - again, there should be a precedent somewhere.
Thanks for the translation, Revan - very interesting stuff. One thing to note is that this is - as the father says himself - very sensitive. It's not simply about football and which team would best suit the lad's development - it's about a very complicated and painful piece of European history.
hope he aint as "fatherly" as this chap!!!
Interesting enough, this journalist (who is one of the best in Kosovo and made the interview with Adnan) is one of the biggest United fans I know.
Who's this?
Tennis player called Jelana Dokic
Yeah he was there along with Ravel Morrison and a few other players.
Oh, if Kosovo gets accepted in FIFA, I think that it will have many chances to qualify. A lot of national teams have now many Kosovans (Switzerland leading the way) and Januzaj is just the first one from the young generation.
In fact, Albania should had easily finished second in their group (going by the quality of players) but they have a very defeatist entality (believe me, I have heard many times, important people there saying that even a draw would be a good result, even in cases when a draw would had mathematically eliminate them from the competition). The new coach started well, but then the history repeated itself and then won just two points in the last 5 games (they had 9 after the first five). Completely different would be if Kosovo would get accepted in FIFA, considering that the best Albanian players are anyway from Kosovo.
From what I understood, he is pissed off from Albanian FA, because they didn't contact him to speak about Adnan, but they started a campaign to get Adnan to play for Albania, made sick propaganda like he can play for Serbia and asked a lot of people to talk about him. All of that, without even talking with his camp.
Kosovo is indipendent since 2008. The problem is that it can't be a member of UN, because of the Russian veto. Anyway it has been recognized from 105 countries, including 22 from 27 members of EU, and pretty much the entire Western civilization (without Spain and Southern America countries).
Kosovo isn't accepted on FIFA/UEFA primarly because Platini is a twat and has very good relations with Serbian FA (one of the biggest stadium in Serbia recently has been called Michel Platini). Blatter make some good decisions in our favor, but considering that UEFA is very powerful, Platini has done his best to turn them back. He says that it isn't personal and the only reason for that is that Kosovo isn't accepted on UN, but this isn't even required and there are many cases when a team plays without getting accepted on UN and in fact not being indipendent at all (Gilbraltar the latest one, then Faroe Islands, Palestina, 4 other parts of UK, Switzerland until 2001 etc). Pretty much he is using an inexistent law as an excuse.
Anyway, in case that a new country gets accepted on FIFA, I think that players have the right to play for that state, regardless for whom they have played before. Also, I think that Januzaj have a Kosovan passport anyway.
Aye - I meant fully independent as in recognized by the UN. The main problem is the Serbian part of Kosovo - isn't that so? Is it viable at all to form a state without including this area, i.e. let Serbia keep it as an enclave of sorts? Probably a theme for another thread, by the way.
Anyway, it does seem strange Kosovo aren't allowed to play official matches - but I suppose that too is basically down to the same thing: Political tension, Serbia's relationship with Russia, the whole package.
Well, it was occupied from 1913 until 1999, but not anymore.
Yes, that's correct. Serbia controls around 25% of Kosovan territory. And in that place live half of Serbian community, around 5% of the population of Kosovo.
Sounds exciting. Do they do package holidays?
The thing I don't like here, is that his father looks like Mazinho in steroids.
Wilmots never said anything about any negotiating with anyone about playing time (or whatever) being initiated from either side. Wilmots was asked about a hypothetical situation by the journalist. He was asked if he would offer playing time or a guaranteed place in the world cup squad in order to convince a player (any player) to choose for Belgium. This was obviously asked in the context of Januzaj's NT situation being in the news a lot, but it was purely hypothetical and asked in a general sense. Januzaj is one of many young Belgians with more than 1 nationality who have the same kind of choice to make, Zakaria Bakkali who made his debut against Wales being another one of themfor example. So Wilmots just replied he would not offer something like that to anyone, which is obviously the only right answer to give.
Januzaj's father is not very bright if he doesn't understand that Wilmots isn't claiming at all that any 'negotiating' like that was ongoing or terms like that where demanded or something. What I actually think is that Januzaj's dad is a pushy father that wants his son to fulfill his dream (his dream of his son playing for Kosovo), rather than let his son make his own choices. Calling out Wilmots for this non-issue is a cheap way of missinterpreting the press in a convenient way to suit his own goal. The way it appears to me is that the dad is taking the opportunity to take this non-issue and use it as an argument towards his son to not choose Belgium, because he prefers him to pick Kosovo. The part of 'focussing on United' seems to me as a false reason to buy time and wait/hope until Kosovo is recognized by FIFA to play official games, so he can push his son into that direction.
Maybe Adnan wants to play for Kosovo as well. We really have no idea, because if the question is raised about his preference, all we hear about is dad's preference. Right now it seems to me that his dad is pushing him in the direction that he wants, rather than Adnan making his own decission. I really hope that when he does make a decission, it's not going to be because of dad's pressure to choose x country.
Overall, I hope he signs a new deal with United. But I don't like his dad very much. The way he presented himself is annoying me.
EDIT:
Here's a link to the part of the interview with Wilmots where he was asked the hypothetical question. The reporter mentioned Januzaj, but then said that the question he was going to ask was not about the player but about the principle (of negotiating playing time). It's in French.
http://www.rtbf.be/video/detail_marc-wilmots-sur-les-nationalites-multiples?id=1861420
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Adnan Januzaj's agent/father: "The negotiations are going well with #United and I believe Adnan will stay with them." #JanuzajAgent or father or both? Because his agent is Dirk De Vriese and not his dad.
Either way the signs are positive.we need to give a whopping welcome tomorrow!
Bloody great news. Get the lad tied down to a nice 5 year contract
Third times a charm right guys? For your Pogba's and Morrisons, you gotta have a Januzaj come along too
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