Adnan Januzaj

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Cristiano_RAFC said:
What I actually think is that Januzaj's dad is a pushy father that wants his son to fulfill his dream (his dream of his son playing for Kosovo), rather than let his son make his own choices. Calling out Wilmots for this non-issue is a cheap way of missinterpreting the press in a convenient way to suit his own goal. The way it appears to me is that the dad is taking the opportunity to take this non-issue and use it as an argument towards his son to not choose Belgium, because he prefers him to pick Kosovo. The part of 'focussing on United' seems to me as a false reason to buy time and wait/hope until Kosovo is recognized by FIFA to play official games, so he can push his son into that direction.

Maybe Adnan wants to play for Kosovo as well. We really have no idea, because if the question is raised about his preference, all we hear about is dad's preference. Right now it seems to me that his dad is pushing him in the direction that he wants, rather than Adnan making his own decission. I really hope that when he does make a decission, it's not going to be because of dad's pressure to choose x country.
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This is how it comes across to me too. We could be completely off the mark, because you never know with small snippets of interviews, but it's certainly the overriding impression from what we've got. Which makes it a bit jarring when presented with the reasoning that it's all in the best interest of Adnan.

He should undoubtedly choose a National Team he actually wants to play for, and not simply the one that'll guarantee him the most success or development or whatever. But if you're going to pretend thats a factor (which the open contemplation of England certainly seems to imply) it becomes a fairly obvious veneer of bullshit when the choices are Belgium vs Albania and Kosovo.

On the other side though, it's possible his father is doing a Mourinho and protecting his son from any criticism he might get from his own choice or statements. If he came out and said he wasn't sure about representing X, and then later did, it wouldn't ingratiate him much to the fans (See Rooney and, well, anyone who's ever done that) so much better to take the hit yourself as a controlling father.
 
Each time this is successful - i.e. we get a contract signed and Januzaj goes on to be a successful part of the first team - it will make it easier to convince the next player.

Part of the reason the vultures - both in the media and other clubs - are circling so voraciously is because of the precedent set by Pogba. Juventus, in particular, can hardly be blamed for wanting to have a go given how well the Pogba thing worked out for them.

It's vital that we start to set a better precedent with Januzaj, because our academy is as good as I've ever seen it at the moment, and we're about to have a growing number of potential first-teamers on our hands. We need to have a culture of getting them efficiently into the first team in place.
 
These youngsters are like buses, you wait years for them and 3 practically come at once. Except the first 2 were out of service cnuts and the third is a limo.
 
Hellboy said:
Because his family don't feel Belgian.
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His father doesn't feel Belgian, but then his father wasn't born in or grow up in Belgium. So I think what Rams is getting at is that this generational disconnect makes it a little unfair for his father to be in sole control of the decision. His father is going to have different priorities.

But then again, this very difference could be the reason for the stalling. Maybe the lad genuinely isn't sure, and is torn between pleasing his father and the place he grew up, with the added mixer of the chance to play competitively at international level thrown in, so they're waiting until he can make a more informed and settled decision, with his dad taking the flak for his indecision in the interim.

We don't really know. But the whole thing does seem to be very little to do with Adnan focusing on his club career tbf. Because if anything it's now a far bigger distraction than it could've been.
 
Fergie did mention in that Charlie Rose interview about how the fathers often tried to live their lives through their son's.
 
Mockney said:
His father doesn't feel Belgian, but then his father wasn't born in or grow up in Belgium. So I think what Rams is getting at is that this generational disconnect makes it a little unfair for his father to be in sole control of the decision. His father is going to have different priorities.

But then again, this very difference could be the reason for the stalling. Maybe the lad genuinely isn't sure, and is torn between pleasing his father and the place he grew up, with the added mixer of the chance to play competitively at international level thrown in, so they're waiting until he can make a more informed and settled decision, with his dad taking the flak for his indecision in the interim.

We don't really know. But the whole thing does seem to be very little to do with Adnan focusing on his club career tbf. Because if anything it's now a far bigger distraction than it could've been.
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Maybe the kid is being brainwashed because his father seems very politicized. Personally, I don't care about his international future. For sure, if he wants to be the best player in the world playing for Belgium will help his cause but at the end of the day they are from a different culture, so you have to respect his fathers decisions regarding his son.
 
I don't care what nation he plays for, although it's a shame for the kid that he is never likely to play in a World Cup if his father gets his way, but my only concern is that he signs a new long term deal with United.
 
:lol: they're having the British/English debate on daily politics.
 
I'd love him to declare for the 3-Lions. Means he won't be going anywhere for at least 5 years!
 
Although I'd have liked to see him join an international team that plays football at a level that would benefit him, at least he'd be available for United more and we wouldn't have to worry about his head been turned by the many inevitably egotistical stars that he'd be playing with at say, Belgium. It could be a blessing in disguise.
 
Hellboy said:
Because his family don't feel Belgian.
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Voila. And because Adnan visits Kosovo every year. And speaks Albanian. And said that his father is behind him and will listen to his advice, because he knows his stuff.

Have explained many times here, Kosovans who have emigrated outside of Kosovo (in all cases I know) still feels Albanian Kosovan (even if they have been borned somewhere else). Same here I think.
 
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/...-commit-manchester-united-121529710--sow.html

He is giving positive signals as yet unlike Pogba. Let's see how this pans out. Great news that he is added to CL squad though that was given and bound to happen.
I think regarding Januzaj, club has done everything possible. Take him to tour in summer, give chances in team, give start, include in CL squad... One may say, why not get him signed earlier? But from what I know, there is limit to contract years for players below certain age and besides, his agent and father will want to delay it a bit even if club is willing to get him tied down soon, just to see if they can get better deal out of club.
Lets hope he/his father/his agent don't act like a cnut and don't try to hold club to ransom.
 
Do we think he'll start against Southampton?

I almost feel like Moyes is in a tricky situation with this one. Given the form of our other wingers, he deserves his chance to keep the momentum going, but we shouldn't be putting our creative hopes on such an unexperienced lad if we can help it.

Of course, if he plays and doesn't perform, outsiders (and fans!) will criticise Moyes. If he doesn't play and the result doesn't go our way, standard criticism.

We should be able to win regardless, but just a thought. I just recall Ronaldo making an early impact and then starting a game or two and being all over the place. To Januzaj's credit, his decision making does look quite impressive and he chooses the right pass/run regularly.
 
Cling Bak said:
Do we think he'll start against Southampton?

I almost feel like Moyes is in a tricky situation with this one. Given the form of our other wingers, he deserves his chance to keep the momentum going, but we shouldn't be putting our creative hopes on such an unexperienced lad if we can help it.

Of course, if he plays and doesn't perform, outsiders (and fans!) will criticise Moyes. If he doesn't play and the result doesn't go our way, standard criticism.

We should be able to win regardless, but just a thought. I just recall Ronaldo making an early impact and then starting a game or two and being all over the place. To Januzaj's credit, his decision making does look quite impressive and he chooses the right pass/run regularly.
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I think it's a no brainer. He's played so well last time out, he deserves nothing but a start.
 
Ramshock said:
He wants the best as in no continuity in his sons life. He was born in Belgium and had his football education here whats wrong with playing for the country of his birth and staying with the club that brought him up?
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He already fecked them off to join you lot (orobably on the advice of his dad).
 
Cling Bak said:
Do we think he'll start against Southampton?

I almost feel like Moyes is in a tricky situation with this one. Given the form of our other wingers, he deserves his chance to keep the momentum going, but we shouldn't be putting our creative hopes on such an unexperienced lad if we can help it.

Of course, if he plays and doesn't perform, outsiders (and fans!) will criticise Moyes. If he doesn't play and the result doesn't go our way, standard criticism.

We should be able to win regardless, but just a thought. I just recall Ronaldo making an early impact and then starting a game or two and being all over the place. To Januzaj's credit, his decision making does look quite impressive and he chooses the right pass/run regularly.
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Of course he should start against Southampton. He's earned it. Besides, who else would we play there; Ashley Young?
 
Cling Bak said:
I almost feel like Moyes is in a tricky situation with this one. Given the form of our other wingers, he deserves his chance to keep the momentum going, but we shouldn't be putting our creative hopes on such an unexperienced lad if we can help it.
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This is being overstated on the caf at the moment. Januzaj was our best player in that game and scored the goals, but we won the game because the whole team got back into it, and a number of players contributed to our resurgence.

Similarly, starting Januzaj against Southampton would not mean putting all the responsibility for creativity on him. We'd also be playing Rooney, who's flying, Carrick, who is also in good form, Nani, who was good and showed promising signs against Sunderland... etc.

We'd simply be picking him because we thought he was a better option than his competition on that wing. At the moment that's Young and Kagawa, so I'd say that's not too much of a stretch, and not too much pressure either.
 
Cling Bak said:
Do we think he'll start against Southampton?

I almost feel like Moyes is in a tricky situation with this one. Given the form of our other wingers, he deserves his chance to keep the momentum going, but we shouldn't be putting our creative hopes on such an unexperienced lad if we can help it.

Of course, if he plays and doesn't perform, outsiders (and fans!) will criticise Moyes. If he doesn't play and the result doesn't go our way, standard criticism.

We should be able to win regardless, but just a thought. I just recall Ronaldo making an early impact and then starting a game or two and being all over the place. To Januzaj's credit, his decision making does look quite impressive and he chooses the right pass/run regularly.
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Not involved in the qualifiers this week either, so he surely must start.
 
It looks that his father interview has had a big effect on FSHF and Albanian opinion. Now FSHF is saying that they will do everything in order to convince Januzaj to play for Albania, while there has started a campaign against head of FSHF, Armando Duka. It's name is similar to the 'Say yes to Albania' campaign that was launched for Adnan. It is called 'Armando Duka, say yes to resignation from FSHF' :lol:

Of course, this won't happen cause he has very strong links, but that man is a cancer to Albanian football. If it wasn't for him being a corrupted incompetent cnut, Granit Xhaka and Xherdan Shaqiri would be playing for Albania now.

Anyway, at the moment, like Januzaj I don't care that much which national team he choose. The most important thing is to chose to continue with United. Like for the rest of his career.
 
Revan said:
Of course, this won't happen cause he has very strong links, but that man is a cancer to Albanian football. If it wasn't for him being a corrupted incompetent cnut, Granit Xhaka and Xherdan Shaqiri would be playing for Albania now.
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If what you say is right, I can see a way out for you... he sounds like the perfect candidate to take over from Blatter when he finally goes!
 
David Moyes is confident Adnan Januzaj’s new-found stardom will not go to the Manchester United youngster’s head.
Januzaj’s two-goal match-winning heroics for the champions in their 2-1 victory at Sunderland catapulted the 18-year-old attacking midfielder to the world’s attention.
But United boss Moyes said Januzaj will not be fazed by his sudden high-profile and fall by the wayside, like other promising young players in the past have done.
For example, 17-year-old debutant Federico Macheda scored a 90th-minute wonder-goal to clinch a win over Aston Villa that helped clinch the title for Sir Alex Ferguson’s side.
Since then, Macheda has regressed and been sent out on loan to clubs in Germany, England and his native Italy - now 22, he recently spent a month at Championship club Doncaster.
But Moyes said there was no way Januzaj will suffer the same fate - and even compared the Belgium-born starlet to a young Wayne Rooney.
“He’s a boy who has no problem playing for the reserves,” said the Scot. “He’s got no problem training with the reserves, he’s got no problem training with the youth team.
“He’s got no real ego to him, he’s a really humble boy.
“He’s been really well looked after by his dad and his family, and that’s kept him on the right way. He’s a good boy, level-headed, and I think he can handle anything that comes his way.
“I’ve had words with him. I’ve spoken to him about what he has to do and with young boys there are going to be dips at times, and there will be games when you see it.
“We’ll try to make sure we look for that. But at the moment I don’t see that. I see him on the ball, I see him confident, he’s capable of going past a player, he can pass it very well, so I see a really good football player.”
Moyes claimed Januzaj is at the same level Rooney was at when the striker broke through under him at Everton 11 years ago, but sounded a note of caution against expecting too much, too soon.
“I can only really judge him by some of the people I have seen over my career, who I would say were top young players,” he added. “Charlie Nicholas was one, when I was being brought through at Celtic, Paul McStay... obviously Wayne Rooney. Ross Barkley too.
“I would have have to say Adnan would be in that category. He certainly wouldn’t be out of place among those names, as an 18-year-old footballer.
“But it’s important to remember he’s still only 18. He’s not even 20, he’s 18. Some players will play for clubs when they are 18, but I think to play for Manchester United at that age is a big thing.”
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Moyes also said that he and the club are confident that he'll sign a new deal and they want to get it done quickly.
 
akash02 said:
Fergie did mention in that Charlie Rose interview about how the fathers often tried to live their lives through their son's.
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Parents who have led unfulfilled lives tend to do this.
 
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