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It's sad to think it's come to this.
Imagine if we could look into the future, at the end of the David Moyes' season many would be predicting he is one of the best players in the EPL by now... not on the verge of selling him at cut price to get rid...
I hope so.I firmly believe things will turn around for him. Van Gaal's philosophy killed his confidence.
I firmly believe things will turn around for him. Van Gaal's philosophy killed his confidence.
I think he's finished here, but will have a good career abroad in Italy or somewhere like that.
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be. People can blame it purely on LvG, whereas Adnan takes a lot of the blame as well.
He is immature and his performances were fading by the back end of Moyes' season anyway.
I do not buy the "he is immature. He has an attitude problem". It's just convenient journalism. When he was scoring he was praised for having a calm head and proffesional attitude then suddenly he had a bad attitude. It's just making up a story that sells.
No shit he was fading away. He was 18 in a terrible team. If Jose doesn't play him this season he will be gone and have a very succesful career whever he goes.
I agree here. Any wonder why the immature and I'll disciplined rumours spiked during LvG's reign? Almost every youngster that was dropped had a mental issue. We didn't get that when he was younger in Moyes' time. Same story ran with Pereira as well who wanted to go out on loan to further his career. That sounds like a player with solid mental strength, doesn't it? Convenient and lazy journalism that our fans have jumped on!I do not buy the "he is immature. He has an attitude problem". It's just convenient journalism. When he was scoring he was praised for having a calm head and proffesional attitude then suddenly he had a bad attitude. It's just making up a story that sells.
No shit he was fading away. He was 18 in a terrible team. If Jose doesn't play him this season he will be gone and have a very succesful career whever he goes.
I agree here. Any wonder why the immature and I'll disciplined rumours spiked during LvG's reign? Almost every youngster that was dropped had a mental issue. We didn't get that when he was younger in Moyes' time. Same story ran with Pereira as well who wanted to go out on loan to further his career. That sounds like a player with solid mental strength, doesn't it? Convenient and lazy journalism that our fans have jumped on!
It's unfortunate that our fans have used that to beat him with. I bet they weren't saying that a few seasons ago especially when PSG were reportedly interested in him. If he went I'm sure we could be dealing with a Pogba pt 2. The funny thing is that he is still a kid. Blimey!!!Yes. Also there is absolutely no evidence except for words. In someone like Balloteli's case we could see the stuff happening outside the pitch. How come we never hear of Januzaj in any bar fights/speeding tickets/controversies?
He is your typical LAD. Wears snapbacks, talks in slang and loves to hang with his "bros" and bang hoes.
When he was playing well, he was showing a maturity beyond his years in terms of decision making. He was an unknown quantity when he first came through. Teams started figuring him out more and more as time went on. You receive more respect from defenders and players double up on you.
I think the hype went to his head. He became more and more of an individual player. This is what let him down at BVB. They attack as a unit, but he was slowing down attacks by dallying on the ball and trying to dictate things to his own rhythm. They like sharp, crisp attacks.
It happens all the time in football. It could even happen to Rashford, but he has shown great mental strength so far.
And his attitude was called into question when Ferguson went on a rant aimed towards him during a FA Youth Cup match a few years back.
It's unfortunate that our fans have used that to beat him with. I bet they weren't saying that a few seasons ago especially when PSG were reportedly interested in him. If he went I'm sure we could be dealing with a Pogba pt 2. The funny thing is that he is still a kid. Blimey!!!
To be fair, managers like Fergie will only get involved with a young lad like Adnan like that if they see something special in them and really want to push them. Fergie was only full of praise and excitement with Adnan when it came to his retirement and he was just on the fringes.
Well obviously you would want him to be able to dribble past players, but I'm saying that I don't believe the dribbling to the capacity he showed in that season is in his arsenal. He's tried playing that way the past 2 years and he hasn't been able to do it. That's why I want to see him go back to how he played pre-Moyes where he was praised for his intelligence on the pitch.Well if this is his natural game and that wasn't then bring back his "un-natural" game any day of the week please.
Where does this Januzaj has an attitude problem stuff come from?
Has he actually done something to suggest he has a bad attitude or is it just all twitter/paper waffle.
How would he combine with Payet from the bench?Should go to west ham. Him and Payet combining would be worth the admission fee alone.
Tuchel made some pretty damning comments about him not having the necessary commitment and dedication to advance his career at his age. Tuchel has the reputation of being pretty blunt at times and not dressing up ciriticism with phrases, but he is usually not that blunt.
The question here is if that was just in connection with his attitude towards his loan move (although he wanted to come here) or his attitude in general. It is still too soon to write him off, though. Nonetheless this will be a vital season in his career and determine a lot of his future as football player.
Why is everybody so obsessed with selling players? We sold so many players going into last season that we literally had room for six more senior players to be registered. While having four overage keepers on the books that were registered. Relax, let him fight for his spot.I hope if we sell him, we're at least sensible enough to insert a buy-back or first choice clause.
@stevoc I believe Tuchel said "his heart was always in Manchester" and I would warrant that the attitude stuff stems from the fact that he went on loan in the first place which was a bizarre set of circumstances in itself. I'd personally add that I think he believes he is better than he has shown. But sometimes when a player grows into his ego it can make him that much better.
He's got a very good opportunity under Jose to get his head down, get wide and get towards goal and make use of himself. I am looking forward to seeing how he goes.
People are obsessed with commenting on players attitude when in truth they haven't a slightest clue.
Almost as obsessed as those who blindly defend players, make excuse after excuse for them, and who live in the past.
Maybe Ando can fulfil his potential one day.
I'm not sure about his time at United, but weren't there direct quotes from the head coach of Dortmund about Januzaj's attitude? That he didn't want to be there, and preferred going back to United?Good, maybe you can present a coherent argument on those grounds instead of talking about what kind of clothes he wears or engaging in armchair analysis of a players mental state. I'm not holding my breath though.
I'm not sure about his time at United, but weren't there direct quotes from the head coach of Dortmund about Januzaj's attitude? That he didn't want to be there, and preferred going back to United?
Possibly, but I think it was obvious he didn't like him.Clear to me Van Gaal didn't like him as a player probably took too many risks for his liking.
Good, maybe you can present a coherent argument on those grounds instead of talking about what kind of clothes he wears or engaging in armchair analysis of a players mental state. I'm not holding my breath though.
I think the reasoning behind LVG actions were that he didn't want Januzaj to just sit on the bench or play with U21 because he preferred Memphis, and Martial as LW. So instead of having Januzaj as a 3rd option, he let him go on a loan. Which was the right thing to do. Of course we could say that Januzaj should be second, and Memphis should've been loaned out, but that's in hindsight since we didn't know that Memphis was going to have a shitty season, and we just bought him.That only tells me he desperately wanted to play for United. Of course loaning him out after he started a couple of games on the bounce and did fairly well was ridiculous in the first place and sums up LVG.
I think the reasoning behind LVG actions were that he didn't want Januzaj to just sit on the bench or play with U21 because he preferred Memphis, and Martial as LW. So instead of having Januzaj as a 3rd option, he let him go on a loan. Which was the right thing to do. Of course we could say that Januzaj should be second, and Memphis should've been loaned out, but that's in hindsight since we didn't know that Memphis was going to have a shitty season, and we just bought him.
