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Dear God, what's next? Manchester United 2015/16 season review DVD?
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Trump hasn't been elected yetThe USA and Putin fit that bill to the letter
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I imagine his actions during the trial and showing no remorse wouldn't have helped either.Judge has apparently said he won't be tried for this so presumably the sentence was based purely on his actions with the girl?
In a victim impact statement read to court, Johnson’s victim said she had “entered many dark places” since she reported the assaults to the police after confiding in her parents.
Even since Johnson was found guilty earlier this month, she said, she had still been bullied at school, causing her to miss classes and her schoolwork to suffer “massively”.
“The whole experience has been very overwhelming and throughout the process I’ve had many hard times, I’ve always felt at risk of being recognised when I go places and on some occasions this has happened,” she said.
“I have felt very intimidated by it all and I’ve felt very lonely at times when I’ve felt everyone is against me due to Adam Johnson protesting his innocence and continuing to put himself in the public eye and ultimately it was like I was being taunted as if to say he could do what he wants and get away with it.”
In a separate victim impact statement, the girl’s mother said her family had endured “heartache, criticism and slanderous remarks” and that she felt powerless to protect her daughter who, she said, had been subjected to “thousands of malicious remarks and some disturbing threats of violence made towards her”.
People need to understand how sentences are arrived at. They're not just pulled out of the air by judges.
In short, an offence has a "tariff" i.e. a range as a starting point. The judge determines where the offence falls within the tariff, then can add or subtract time for aggravating or mitigating factors. In Johnson's case it would appear there were few or no mitigating factors and a number of aggravating factors, hence the (by some) perceived harshness of the sentence.
I heard he also had sex once, while drunk.20-something year old watches porn and gets treated for an STI? Well I'm shocked.
That's Ched Evans surely?I heard he also had sex once, while drunk.
laws are made by men... the same men that legalize slavery.
I hope this case serves to future changes on the law because 6 years for fingering (consented) a 15 years old is ridiculous.
Anyway, quite stupid from Johnson. If he really was that desperate for having sex with a 15yo, he should have done what rich girls do when they want to have a abortion but its illegal in their countries... just fly to a countries where is legal to do it.
The real victim of abuse here is grammar.I imagine his actions during the trial and showing no remorse wouldn't have helped either.
He said this in the second week: "I hope this is finished by Friday. It’s a bit boring now."
During sentencing he was chewing gum and smirking and winking to a friend in the gallery.
Victim impact statement:
Faye Johnson (his sister) runs a facebook page with 5,000 likes and has comments such as these on it (all from women):
I don't believe for one minute this girl is a victim. Met up with him more than once. Planned from the beginning.... All about his money! Hope he wins his appeal. Xx
She was well up for it, you don't go meeting a bloke in a car if you don't want it. She probably thought he would dump his girlfriend for her.
Well said ! 100 % agree know what your doing at 15 just because embarrassed then play the child card. Whatever no child there
Well she tried it with Conner whickem first. She know innocent. She be on celeb big brother in the future..
Hes not a paedophile. Shes a dirty little girl who's family are on a massive witch hunt. Theres too many people walking around who are actual paedophiles.. Who have actually harmed children who had no choice or decision... Because hes famous hes just a case study. Made an example of..well its wrong. Someone I know said she was in the toilets of a pub and got caught having sex the just 2 weeks ago!!!! ....this poor bloke made one silly mistake. This country is so messed up its unreal...
U r an absolute unreal young lady for wot u been through n then there's that little slut with all her lies and blackmail which pisses right off x x
I just honestly think the daft little cow is just to blame as what Adam is she's far from a victim he didn't rape or abuse her. My sister having sex under the age of 16 and she new what I was doing just looks bad because he's older and in the lime light. I don't think it as bad as what people are making out. Adam will be looking at 10 years in prison pedophiles don't even get half of that time for raping babies. Think ppl are quick enuff to judge it's only bad on he's side because he new her age but she wasn't exactly 12 or 13 she was probs only couple of months off the legal age anyway stupid little bitch wanting attention why else would she do all this two sides to every story
And you're wrong. You can't legally give consent under the age of 16.
Thing is, he'll only serve 3 in prison anyway, then will be out on licence for the remaining 3.People actually have a problem with the sentence? Christ.
I have a problem with the complete lack of consistency in sentencing. It seems that if you're a man or famous the sentence is automatically more severe.People actually have a problem with the sentence? Christ.
What on earth are you talking about?Why then, a 13yo boy delinquent can be sent to juvy (and get assraped in the process) if he doesn't know what the feck he is doing?
nah man... as i said, laws are made by men and can be quite stupid sometimes.
a 15 year old girl knows exactly what she is doing getting in a car with an older dude.
No, if you're famous it's reported in the media so everyone knows about it - that's all.I have a problem with the complete lack of consistency in sentencing. It seems that if you're a man or famous the sentence is automatically more severe.
Women. He's a female supremacist.What on earth are you talking about?
If "men" are not to make laws, who's to make them?
It's perfectly reasonable that if you're famous, you share some responsibility for the victim being dragged into the media spotlight. It's a severe problem in a case like this and makes a massive difference for the girl.I have a problem with the complete lack of consistency in sentencing. It seems that if you're a man or famous the sentence is automatically more severe.
What on earth are you talking about?
If "men" are not to make laws, who's to make them?
I have a problem with the complete lack of consistency in sentencing. It seems that if you're a man or famous the sentence is automatically more severe.
I'm just saying not because something is law, its always right. A lot of times its the opposite. Like slavery for example. Laws needs to be under scrutiny from time to time.
Harsh sentence. I've always liked older women and can say with absolute certainty that had I managed to have sex with a woman his age when I was 15, I'd have been delighted and well aware of my consent. Impressionable you may be at that age, but still most definitely aware of the consequences of your actions. The last thing I'd have wanted was for her to then be locked up for six years.
Then again he's obviously a dirty little little scroat, so I'm not that arsed.
None of this is relevant, as your memory of fifteen year old you is not the victim.Harsh sentence. I've always liked older women and can say with absolute certainty that had I managed to have sex with a woman his age when I was 15, I'd have been delighted and well aware of my consent. Impressionable you may be at that age, but still most definitely aware of the consequences of your actions. The last thing I'd have wanted was for her to then be locked up for six years.
It's not sympathy, it's reason. No one debating the case gives a feck about Johnson, but quite a few are concerned about a plethora of double standards and inconsistencies which litter the legal framework.Don't see why Johnson would deserve even the slightest bit of sympathy.
I don't think so, you're essentially punishing someone for having a natural skillset more likely to have a harsher sentence than others.It's perfectly reasonable that if you're famous, you share some responsibility for the victim being dragged into the media spotlight. It's a severe problem in a case like this and makes a massive difference for the girl.
You're correct, that isn't my problem.Then the problem isn't with a sex offender being sentenced for being a sex offender.
There's plenty of studies out there confirming men get harsher sentences than women, there's also plenty of similar cases out there that show celebrities are made 'an example of'.No, if you're famous it's reported in the media so everyone knows about it - that's all.
It's not sympathy, it's reason. No one debating the case gives a feck about Johnson, but quite a few are concerned about a plethora of double standards and inconsistencies which litter the legal framework.
I don't disagree. Just that when such blatant contrasts exist, then these rulings will never be anything but controversial.We shouldn't start handing out lighter sentences to men who prey on young girls though. We should start protecting young boys in the same way by handing out equivalent sentences to the women who prey on them.
That's very good but law is a law. If you open it for interpretation is useless. You can't put it down as 16ish can you?Why then, a 13yo boy delinquent can be sent to juvy (and get assraped in the process) if he doesn't know what the feck he is doing?
nah man... as i said, laws are made by men and can be quite stupid sometimes.
a 15 year old girl knows exactly what she is doing getting in a car with an older dude.
It's not sympathy, it's reason. No one debating the case gives a feck about Johnson, but quite a few are concerned about a plethora of double standards and inconsistencies which litter the legal framework.
So what would your alternative law be?
None of this is relevant, as your memory of fifteen year old you is not the victim.
That's right.People need to understand how sentences are arrived at. They're not just pulled out of the air by judges.
In short, an offence has a "tariff" i.e. a range as a starting point. The judge determines where the offence falls within the tariff, then can add or subtract time for aggravating or mitigating factors. In Johnson's case it would appear there were few or no mitigating factors and a number of aggravating factors, hence the (by some) perceived harshness of the sentence.
How?Of course it's relevant. The 'victim' wasn't raped or forced. She happily (probably couldn't believe her luck) met with her idol. Lets not make out as though this was some powerless young child, or shall we all pretend the 15 year old versions of ourselves had the mentality of an infant?
He's a cnut for taking advantage of a impressionable teenager, but not a six year prison sentence cnut.
No, you're punishing an adult who's responsible for his actions and the consequences these actions have for the victim. The consequences always matter. They vary in all cases for different reasons, but they can never be ignored.I don't think so, you're essentially punishing someone for having a natural skillset more likely to have a harsher sentence than others.
Of course it's relevant. The 'victim' wasn't raped or forced. She happily (probably couldn't believe her luck) met with her idol. Lets not make out as though this was some powerless young child, or shall we all pretend the 15 year old versions of ourselves had the mentality of an infant?
He's a cnut for taking advantage of a impressionable teenager, but not a six year prison sentence cnut.
lower the age of consent to 14 seems about right. Its just sex ffs.
There is nothing wrong with it. Only because society makes it look like the worst of all evils, that poor kid will be traumatized for life (hopefully not).
If the people around her wouldn't have started bullying her (maybe because of jealousy?), this mediatic show wouldn't exist. She was okay with it. Outside pressure make her change her view on the matter.