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Liverpool don't need him. They are out.

City possibly but Walker still got years in him yet. Doubt City will be in for him.

Spurs could do with a RB but they won't spend £60m on a right back. No chance.

Arsenal? Forget it.

Chelsea don't need him. They have Azpi.


There's only United really who both need a player in his position and would sanction the move due to his price tag. If he's allowed to leave it will be to join us.

I honestly think Spurs are going to spend big this year and would go for this lad if we thought he was available.
 
I honestly think Spurs are going to spend big this year and would go for this lad if we thought he was available.

I think that as well. Now the stadium is out the way they can start to promote themselves as a much bigger club and probably attract better players.
Getting to the CL final won't have done them any harm either.
 
Sam Lee has said that City are 'big admirers' of Wan-Bissaka but they won't bid for him unless Danilo leaves which at the moment is likely but not definite.

He's also said they aren't in for Bruno Fernandes but there seems to be a lot of sources saying they are.

Don't take these guys's word for certain. It's mostly guess work.
 
Do people rate AWB higher than Matt Doherty or Ricardo Pereira? Or is it simply an age thing?
 
Do people rate AWB higher than Matt Doherty or Ricardo Pereira? Or is it simply an age thing?
Defensively yes higher than Doherty. Doherty obviously better going forward. Also Wolves often played with a 3 and Doherty as a wing back
 
He's also said they aren't in for Bruno Fernandes but there seems to be a lot of sources saying they are.

Don't take these guys's word for certain. It's mostly guess work.

Sam Lee is reliable. I would trust him on City news more than any other unofficial source.
 
I honestly think Spurs are going to spend big this year and would go for this lad if we thought he was available.
Do you think Eriksen and Toby will stay?

Potch deserves the money but with the new stadium can't see there being a massive amount for him and certainly not 50-60m for a RB. Maybe if Eriksen is sold, I guess?
 
Do you think Eriksen and Toby will stay?

Potch deserves the money but with the new stadium can't see there being a massive amount for him and certainly not 50-60m for a RB. Maybe if Eriksen is sold, I guess?

I think Toby might stay another year and then leave on a free next summer - Eriksen I think is almost certain to leave.

I think we are going to spend £100m+ this summer - we need a right back and at least one midfielder (ideally two).

Nowadays even average players are going for £25m+ - we will undoubtably break our transfer record this summer. Possibly several times.
 
We really needed to knock over a couple of the signings early, given the panicked scatter gun approach in 3 of the last 5 summer transfer windows.

Thought this one was an easy one to lock away. Just puzzled as to why we haven't made to move.

Absolutely a position we need to fill. Best one available. Chance to lock away that position for next 10 years. English talent. I am just puzzled.
 
Sam Lee is reliable. I would trust him on City news more than any other unofficial source.

He's got stuff wrong before. These guys haven't got their own telephone line at City. They pick up bits and pieces third hand and run with it.

Truth is City will be looking at probably 20-30 players this summer like we will. They won't buy all 20-30 obviously, just like we wont as it's not possible, but the lists are out there and scouting must be done etc.

I don't believe a single word a football Journalist says tbh.
 
We really needed to knock over a couple of the signings early, given the panicked scatter gun approach in 3 of the last 5 summer transfer windows.

Thought this one was an easy one to lock away. Just puzzled as to why we haven't made to move.

Absolutely a position we need to fill. Best one available. Chance to lock away that position for next 10 years. English talent. I am just puzzled.

Really? This is Ed Woowoo's MO!
 
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(1) We should forget about him and mostly play Dalot in a formation using wingbacks. Wan-Bissaka is not attacking enough for United. We always play converted wingers as full-backs anyway. Look how many games Darmian got - hardly any. Same will happen to a defensive fullback like Wan-Bissaka.

(2) The money's needed to improve other areas first. Apart from the #11 = James, we need a #7, CB, DCM, #8, and, possibly a #9 if Lukaku leaves. It looks like Ole is happy with Lukaku leaving. That's between 5 and 6 in during summer. There's also talk of a goalie to replace de Gea!

(3) We already have: Dalot, Young, and Darmian for right-sided fullback.

(4) New #2 is the lowest priority.
 
Do people rate AWB higher than Matt Doherty or Ricardo Pereira? Or is it simply an age thing?

Very different players. Doherty is very much a right wing back who plays in a specific 5 at the back system. His defensive work is very suspect and he would struggle in a back 4. Absolutely brilliant going forward though and can finish!

I'm a big fan of Ricardo Pereira, would have him here in a heartbeat but he could end up being just as pricey as AWB
 
No.

(1) We should forget about him and mostly play Dalot in a formation using wingbacks. Wan-Bissaka is not attacking enough for United. We always play converted wingers as full-backs anyway. Look how many games Darmian got - hardly any. Same will happen to a defensive fullback like Wan-Bissaka.

(2) The money's needed to improve other areas first. Apart from the #11 = James, we need a #7, CB, DCM, #8, and, possibly a #9 if Lukaku leaves. It looks like Ole is happy with Lukaku leaving. That's between 5 and 6 in during summer. There's also talk of a goalie to replace de Gea!

(3) We already have: Dalot, Young, and Darmian for right-sided fullback.

(4) New #2 is the lowest priority.

How many clean sheets did we keep this year. CB is just as important as the RB. Young and Darmian shouldn't be counted whatsoever. Dalot is good attacking player we can develop at RW.

We are right into De Ligt and it is a waiting game. With Wan-Bissaka nothing is stopping us. Time is ticking.

We need the full squad finslised by end of June so they can get together and train with their new team mates. Given we need 6 new players at least, preseason training is the most important thing to get right.
 
I would be willing to overpay for Bissaka because it's a position of need. He does need to improve offensively, but he is a straight up lock down RB. He maybe the best 1v1 defender at RB in the world. Given the dearth of talent at LW at all the top clubs having a defender like that will have a huge impact. Fewer crosses, no more Hazard running amuck down the left side and/or cutting into the middle. If we can add a proper CB the defense will be at a different level. Smalling and Jones as squad players are playable.
 
There's overpaying and there's paying the £70m papers claim Palace are asking for.
 
Is he really as good as people are saying (and the fee being talked about? I rather doubt it
 
Is he really as good as people are saying (and the fee being talked about? I rather doubt it
His defensive stats don't lie.

Going forward? It's debatable but I assume we will be using him to back up a winger, rather than being a main source.
 
True to form, Ed will spend the next couple of months twatting about with Griezmann, De Ligt and ruddy Bale, then overpay for someone who doesn't want to come to Utd on the last day.

It's so predictable.
 
Is he really as good as people are saying (and the fee being talked about? I rather doubt it

He was the best defensive right back in the PL last season and contrary to a lot of the opinions expressed in this thread he is comfortable on the ball although he did not get forward too much mostly as a result of the system at Palace where PVA was always bombing forward on the left. There is reason for optimism as far as him improving his attacking skills going forward.

For comparison we keep hearing that Dalot is young and will develop and learn to defend and so the same should apply to Wan Bissaka as regards his attacking skills. AWB is only 16 months older and only broke into the first team at Palace during the 17/18 season totaling 42 first team appearances. Dalot has 45 appearances between Porto B, Porto and United and yes Porto B count as they play in the Portugese second division.
 
Do people rate AWB higher than Matt Doherty or Ricardo Pereira? Or is it simply an age thing?
I think those two would be just as good as wan Bissaka. We need an Irish lad back in the squad, and I would prefer us to prioritize attacking. Don’t think Doherty would be as bad defensively as people think, nor do I think wan Bissaka would be as bad in attack.
 
His defensive stats don't lie.

Going forward? It's debatable but I assume we will be using him to back up a winger, rather than being a main source.
haven't seen the stats - that's why i asked! A brief precise? Is it sort of how many successful tackles?
 
So if Arsenal do get Meunier and City get Cancelo, then it's absolutely vital we do everything we can to bring him in. Simply can't go another season with our current right back situation.
 
As far as I have seen, he hasn't got good deliveries and attacking intent, but a good defensive mind, it would be a right back version of luke shaw in my opinion.
 
(3) We already have: Dalot, Young, and Darmian for right-sided fullback.

(4) New #2 is the lowest priority.

lolwot.

Right wing and right back are, pound for pound, the weakest positions in the squad right now. By far. Our right flank has been abjectly pathetic for half a decade - in fact we haven't had one to speak of - primary due to us never investing in a half decent right back to replace Valencia once he became scared of the ball.

It's the second most important position to recruit in after CB. And that's despite us desperately needing a new CDM to replace Matic. And a Herrera replacement to compliment Pogba. And a new #9 with genuine quality. And probably a replacement for De Gea.

£70m for AWB obviously isn't the answer to this problem but there are so many good attacking right backs in the Prem right now, including Pereira and Doherty, as well as Meunier available on the cheap.

If we don't sign a right back I'll be writing off our season, and Ole's short-lived United career, before a ball is even kicked. Dalot is looking more and more like poor full back by any standards, his lack of game time says it all really, Ole and the rest of the coaches don't rate him at all as a right back. Young is atrocious in all respects, and Darmian has been on the sell list for years.
 
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Wtf is "poor hips" thing? I have read it earlier as well on here. Was it you who posted that nonsense as well?

what is it about the statement that you don't understand? Change of direction. It's a very common aspect of athletic assessment. It's also why virtually any premier player glides past Dalot with ease and also why he stays about a meter away from anyone he's defending that is facing him. If you can't see it you're blind. The coaches have seen it which is why he's playing less and less in that role.
 
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No.

(1) We should forget about him and mostly play Dalot in a formation using wingbacks. Wan-Bissaka is not attacking enough for United. We always play converted wingers as full-backs anyway. Look how many games Darmian got - hardly any. Same will happen to a defensive fullback like Wan-Bissaka.

(2) The money's needed to improve other areas first. Apart from the #11 = James, we need a #7, CB, DCM, #8, and, possibly a #9 if Lukaku leaves. It looks like Ole is happy with Lukaku leaving. That's between 5 and 6 in during summer. There's also talk of a goalie to replace de Gea!

(3) We already have: Dalot, Young, and Darmian for right-sided fullback.

(4) New #2 is the lowest priority.


wow....you are simply clueless.
 
what is it about the statement that you don't understand? Change of direction. It's a very common aspect of athletic assessment. It's also why virtually any premier player glides past Dalot with ease and also why he stays about a meter away from anyone he's defending that is facing him. If you can't see it you're blind. The coaches have seen it which is why he's playing less and less in the trole.
Are you his coach or his doctor or have you stolen his xray reports? How on earth do you come to the conclusion about his hips. I am not blind but you really are a buffoon if you think anyone will believe the horse shite that you have spouted.
 
Are you his coach or his doctor or have you stolen his xray reports? How on earth do you come to the conclusion about his hips. I am not blind but you really are a buffoon if you think anyone will believe the horse shite that you have spouted.

An athlete's agility is often based on their hips. In American sports it is common to say a player has "poor hips" to say they struggle with agility.
 
An athlete's agility is often based on their hips. In American sports it is common to say a player has "poor hips" to say they struggle with agility.
Not saying it's not the case but some random guy on the caf claiming to have this information is stupid.
 
Not saying it's not the case but some random guy on the caf claiming to have this information is stupid.

It's not a medical assessment. It's just a synecdoche for his ability to change directions quickly, which is obviously a huge part of defending against wingers.
 
Robertson stats of his assists won’t justify whether he was putting good crosses or no. He was known as a left back who can cross despite of lack assists before he joined Liverpool (his last season at hull).

Contrast to AWB who is known as a non good crosser. However, AWB is still young and can make improvement in this aspect.

Speaking about his transfer fees value, I just don’t think it’s worth to spend more than 50m for a full back, we aren’t desperate since we have 2 young right back Laird & Dalot.
 
His attacking game isn't as weak as people are mentioning on here. Yes, he is a defensive full-back naturally but he wouldn't be a massive hindrance going forward. He plays with Townsend/Zaha infront of him at Palace. Townsend likes to hug the line as much as possible, and isn't renowned for his defensive work. Naturally AWB has to focus on the defensive side of the game especially in a team like Palace's when they go on the attack.

Plus we brought a young RB last season who is known for his attacking contributions in Dalot and he's been criticised for his defensive work and people don't trust him. We could use Dalot in games as an attacking option to develop him and AWB can be trusted for the bigger games. It would be good to see them both develop here into top full-backs. I would much rather AWB than Meunier at this point.
 
He should be decent going forward when given the license to do so.

I say that because wasn’t he was a winger before being making the right back spot his own.
 
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